Does it mention these in the Bible?

[Moo_Moo]

Hi, I’ve been talking with an Atheist on another site and we were discussing whether or not the Bible covers all the moral issues of today. He asked if intellectual property or pedophilia were mentioned, and also asked, “Does god arbitrarily give a set age, such as 18, or does he provide some other method of determining when a girl becomes woman? Or, rather, a not arbitrary way?” Does the Bible mention these things? If so, could you tell me where?

I would really appreciate it if someone could help me out here, as I’ve been having trouble thinking and concentrating due to illness.

Thanks.

 

[NotWorthy]

Pedophilia would be classified under illicit acts.

You won’t see direct references to things like embrionic stem-cell research, but the Church views all life as sacred, and would place the stem-cells in the life category.

 

[Orionthehunter]

Hi, I’ve been talking with an Atheist on another site and we were discussing whether or not the Bible covers all the moral issues of today. He asked if intellectual property or pedophilia were mentioned, and also asked, “Does god arbitrarily give a set age, such as 18, or does he provide some other method of determining when a girl becomes woman? Or, rather, a not arbitrary way?” Does the Bible mention these things? If so, could you tell me where?

I would really appreciate it if someone could help me out here, as I’ve been having trouble thinking and concentrating due to illness.

Thanks.

Intellectual property is a gift from God to the owner. The owner has the right to exercise stewardship over that gift and none of us have the right to appropriate or use that property just as we can’t steal other tangible belongings.

Regarding the age of adulthood, there is not set answer like there are in legal circles. However, it is a continuum. In some matters (knowing right and wrong), it is at an early age. In other matters (being able to enter into a sacramental marriage), it is a function of emotional and spiritual maturity such they understand the nature of the sacrament. I still wonder how i’m still married as I’m not sure I’m that emotionally and spiritually mature.

 

[Mystophilus]

Hi, I’ve been talking with an Atheist on another site and we were discussing whether or not the Bible covers all the moral issues of today. He asked if intellectual property or pedophilia were mentioned, and also asked, “Does god arbitrarily give a set age, such as 18, or does he provide some other method of determining when a girl becomes woman? Or, rather, a not arbitrary way?” Does the Bible mention these things? If so, could you tell me where?

I would really appreciate it if someone could help me out here, as I’ve been having trouble thinking and concentrating due to illness.

Thanks.

While these issues are not addressed specifically, the Bible is not a law book, and there is no appearance of any intention to address every issue. Instead, general rules are given, including the Two Greatest Commandments: love God, and love your neighbour as yourself.

The first necessitates the second: you love your neighbour because you love God, and God tells you to do this.

The second covers both intellectual property rights and pedophilia. You cannot steal from someone while loving them. You cannot take advantage of someone while loving them.

The arbitrary decision as to when someone is sufficiently mature as to choose when to engage in sexual intercourse has been the preserve of human governments.

 

[jennyr]

I think God has chosen that someone can have sexual intercourse once they are able to have a baby. It would seem that would be the physical intention

I have no idea on the adult question… why is the concept of “adult” even important though

 

[Daniel_Marsh]

Hi Moo_Moo

The bible does not directly address many modern subjects. But, as Chrisitans we apply princilpes of scritprue to modern issues.

For pedophilia, scripture forbbids sex outside of marriage, all young women are expected to be virgins – that is the norm.
Thus sex with a child would be out of the question.

For intellectiual property, scripture plainly forbids stealing, and we are to obey the laws of the land ( rom 13 ) which do not directly contradict God’s law.

As for children becoming a woman, that is cultural, the culture of the bible had it at puberty, age 12-13. But, our culture sets it around 18, again Romans 13 law of the land comes into play.

Be warned, athestist and some muslims try to say that the Bible endorses pedophilia by quoting a passage in the talmud about having sex with three year and one day year olds.

Read Numbers 31 in context, there is no sex with children there.

The Talmud Does Not Permit Sex With A Three Year Old
angelfire.com/mt/talmud/three.html

The Pedophilic Verses
quransearch.com/age3.htm

Sex with Children by Talmud Rules
come-and-hear.com/editor/p_america_2.html
come-and-hear.com/editor/america_2.html
come-and-hear.com/sanhedrin/sanhedrin_55.html
come-and-hear.com/sanhedrin/sanhedrin_69.html

The nature of the talmud is that it makes arguments in the extreme positions to arrive at princles in a passage. What was praticed was adopting young children from conquered nations, no sex with them. The passages in the talmud do sound like they are endorsing sex with a three year old, but that was not practiced, nor condoned in the community. It is simply an exagerated argument to show that sex with children is like poking ones finger into an eye. It is harmful, and does not serve the command to “be fruitful and multiply”. Some states like Washington DC allows sex with a 16 year old as legal.

 

[puzzleannie]

Hi, I’ve been talking with an Atheist on another site and we were discussing whether or not the Bible covers all the moral issues of today. He asked if intellectual property or pedophilia were mentioned,

we need to get stillsmallvoice and our other Jewish friends to weigh in here, because I believe the rabbis would say the Bible speaks about every conceivable situation in human life. For instance, laws about what happens if your ox falls into a ditch can be applied to auto accidents, or what happens if you borrow you neighbor’s goat and it dies, can be applied to borrowing your neighbor’s lawnmower and it breaks.

 

[wisdom_3_5]

As Catholics we believe in the inerrancy of the Bible, but it is not our only source of teaching, not our only guide. Here is a tract for CA called PillarofFire . Page down to the section “How God speaks to us”.

It doesn’t matter that the Bible doesn’t specifically name intellectual property and other things (like the Trinity) because we have Sacred Tradition and the Magesterium. Jesus didn’t leave us alone to fend for ourselves, we have Holy Mother Church to help us.

I don’t know if your atheist friend is challenging you on your belief in the Bible, maybe he is searching? Anyway, its good to know that as a Catholic we don’t believe in *sola scriptura *and why.

 

[Moo_Moo]

Thanks everyone. You all have been very helpful.