Does Jesus always know the future?

[famdigy]

Christians,

do you believe Jesus always knows the future, even as he was in human form?

and how do you reconcile these two contradicting statements in the bible

Concerning that day and hour nobody knows, neither the angels of the heavens nor the Son, but only the Father (Matthew 24)

“I (Jesus) and the Father are One.” (John 10:30)

If the Father and the Son are One in the literal sense, then how do you explain Jesus not knowing (or have seen) the hour?

 

[choy]

Christians,

do you believe Jesus always knows the future, even as he was in human form?

and how do you reconcile these two contradicting statements in the bible

Concerning that day and hour nobody knows, neither the angels of the heavens nor the Son, but only the Father (Matthew 24)

“I (Jesus) and the Father are One.” (John 10:30)

If the Father and the Son are One in the literal sense, then how do you explain Jesus not knowing (or have seen) the hour?

its not so much about knowing the future but that the events happen because of the Father’s will

 

[roveau]

We can’t possibly understand the way the Holy Trinity works but we do know that with God all things are possible. So it should be possible for the ‘Son of Man’ not to know the future date of the Advent.

 

[seraphime2008]

if God in Jesus had given the answer and then presented in the bible…then our life on earth will change dramatically!!! He had already said that none of the knowledge about the finish line will serve the humanity! we just have to be ready all the time.

 

[stephe1987]

Humans do not need to know when the end times will be. We just need to obey God’s laws and stay away from states of mortal sin, since we do not know when we will die. Jesus was human during His time on Earth when He lived as a man, so of course He did not need to know as a human. Maybe God Himself is letting things play out and still hasn’t decided when the end will be, all that’s been decided is what to look for when it comes time to end things, not a specific date or time.

 

[Sam_777]

Maybe because the Father has not decided or spoken the hour at that exact moment and Jesus wanted it to be according to the Father’s will not His will.

However in (Matthew 25:11-13) Jesus said “you do not know the hour” NOT “we do not know the hour”:
"Later the others also came. ‘Sir! Sir!’ they said. 'Open the door for us!“But he replied, 'I tell you the truth, I don’t know you.'Therefore keep watch, because you do not know the day or the hour”.

 

[Marcus_T]

Remember, Jesus has two natures. He is fully human and fully God. When Jesus told his Apostles that He did not know the hour, He was speaking from His human nature. His divine nature obviously knows when the hour is. In addition, He also said He was not sent here to divulge the hour as that is not our concern.

Mark

 

[Newbie2]

Remember, Jesus has two natures. He is fully human and fully God. When Jesus told his Apostles that He did not know the hour, He was speaking from His human nature. His divine nature obviously knows when the hour is. In addition, He also said He was not sent here to divulge the hour as that is not our concern.

Mark

 

[RoryMcKenzie56]

Many will attribute this to a real ignorance in Christ, but compartmentalized to his human nature. That works, but I am uncomfortable with it. I tend toward an argument by St. John Chrysostom where he identifies a similar reference to this knowledge as being excluded from that which the Son can communicate immediately before the Ascension. So in addition to Mt. 24:36 which occurs prior to our Lord’s Passion we have the same subject arise in Acts 1:

They therefore who were come together, asked him, saying: Lord, wilt thou at this time restore again the kingdom to Israel? But he said to them: It is not for you to know the times or moments, which the Father hath put in his own power:

St. Chrysostom argues that in speaking to His disciples in this way, Christ is not affirming personal ignorance, but that in His mission, which is completely subordinate to the Father, He is not at liberty to reveal this information. He is answering the question that was put to Him at the beginning of His discourse in Mt. 24 where they asked about when the end would be. If His answer in Mt. 24 seems to exclude Himself, it is not because the Son lacked knowledge, but because this particular knowledge is to be concealed and not part of the message of Christ. It seems more clear in Acts 1, where again Jesus deflects the question but more clearly affirms that He is not supposed to reveal this information.

One can see how without trying to reconcile the entire New Testament corpus, one could from this passage alone affirm ignorance in Christ. This passage, properly understood has Christ saying, “I have no knowledge of this that I can give you”. It would be like when a news reporter asks a crime investigator regarding the progress of a case. It is entirely correct and true for the authorities, following the direction of their superiors, to say that they do not have certain information. The unsaid portion, but well understood is that this information is privileged. The times and season was privileged information that would have been improper to reveal, and no one had any knowledge that could be given at that time, because similar to a district attorney conducting a case, the Father was having his “subordinates”, even His Son, reserve the information for a later time.

It seems to me that this is clearly the meaning of Mt. 24:36, especially when one analyzes Christ’s response to the same question in Acts 1.

 

[SnakeMauler]

Also, consider what unforseen consequences there could be if the actual date of the endtimes were revealed. I mean, just think about it. There were already issues with people being lazy and quitting their jobs back then because they thought Jesus was going to come back in like 50 years or something. Perhaps it has more to do with the development of mankind as a hole (when the second coming would occur) which would be up to the free will of mankind.

 

[Doxiemom]

Remember, Jesus is the bridegroom and we are the bride.

the jewish custom at that time was that the bride waited at her home while the bridegroom built the room to be used the wedding night , ususally attached to his father house.

The bridegroom had to wait until his father sounded the trump which called the bride to come to her husband for the wedding feast. Only the father knew the exact time he would chose.

That is why Jesus could not be allowed by His Father to know the exact hour.

His apostles knew exactly what Jesus was talking about.

 

[choy]

Remember, Jesus is the bridegroom and we are the bride.

the jewish custom at that time was that the bride waited at her home while the bridegroom built the room to be used the wedding night , ususally attached to his father house.

The bridegroom had to wait until his father sounded the trump which called the bride to come to her husband for the wedding feast. Only the father knew the exact time he would chose.

That is why Jesus could not be allowed by His Father to know the exact hour.

His apostles knew exactly what Jesus was talking about.

awesome explanation
this gives a lot more sense to the statement of Jesus

amazing that many things He says we miss the finer details because a lot of the context is easily understood by the people of that time, but lost to those who just glance at the Bible

 

[Sam_777]

St. Chrysostom argues that in speaking to His disciples in this way, Christ is not affirming personal ignorance, but that in His mission, which is completely subordinate to the Father, He is not at liberty to reveal this information. He is answering the question that was put to Him at the beginning of His discourse in Mt. 24 where they asked about when the end would be. If His answer in Mt. 24 seems to exclude Himself, it is not because the Son lacked knowledge, but because this particular knowledge is to be concealed and not part of the message of Christ. It seems more clear in Acts 1, where again Jesus deflects the question but more clearly affirms that He is not supposed to reveal this information.

 

[swariffin]

Christians,

do you believe Jesus always knows the future, even as he was in human form?

and how do you reconcile these two contradicting statements in the bible

Concerning that day and hour nobody knows, neither the angels of the heavens nor the Son, but only the Father (Matthew 24)

“I (Jesus) and the Father are One.” (John 10:30)

If the Father and the Son are One in the literal sense, then how do you explain Jesus not knowing (or have seen) the hour?

The word of God will never precede God. The same thing as your word will never precede you who spell that.

 

[Sam_777]

So** famdigy**, are you convinced now?

 

[Gabriel_of_12]

Christians,

do you believe Jesus always knows the future, even as he was in human form?

 

[Lapell]

If you and I knew the date when the end comes, we would still not know the date of our own passage from this world to the World To Come, which will probably be before. We only have the time allowed to us to do away with sinful ways and observe God’s Commandments with all our hearts, souls, minds and strengths. To love and honour God and to love and honour our neighbours as we would like ourselves to be loved and honoured. This is what matters, and we should not delay nor wait until we’re declared saints to start living according to God’s ways…

 

[Richard_Kastner]

Christians,

do you believe Jesus always knows the future, even as he was in human form?

and how do you reconcile these two contradicting statements in the bible

Concerning that day and hour nobody knows, neither the angels of the heavens nor the Son, but only the Father (Matthew 24)

“I (Jesus) and the Father are One.” (John 10:30)

If the Father and the Son are One in the literal sense, then how do you explain Jesus not knowing (or have seen) the hour?

Consider this
1Cor2
1And I, brethren, when I came to you, came not with excellency of speech or of wisdom, declaring unto you the testimony of God.
2For I determined not to know any thing among you, save Jesus Christ, and him crucified.

Paul here says he has come to the Corinthian church for one reason and that is to declare the testimony of God and this is accomplished according to Paul by **not knowing **“any thing among you, save Jesus Christ, and him crucified.” The point is that Paul by not knowing any thing but Jesus among them is saying that he will not announce or preach anything other than the gospel. OK, now apply this to Matt. 24:36 But of that day and hour knoweth no man, no, not the angels of heaven, but my Father only. What Jesus is saying here is that it is totally under the authority of the Father to announce the exact time of Jesus return. This seems to be born out in

Rev.14:14And I looked, and behold a white cloud, and upon the cloud one sat like unto the Son of man, having on his head a golden crown, and in his hand a sharp sickle.
15And another angel came out of the temple, crying with a loud voice to him that sat on the cloud, Thrust in thy sickle, and reap: for the time is come for thee to reap; for the harvest of the earth is ripe.
16And he that sat on the cloud thrust in his sickle on the earth; and the earth was reaped.

Here we see Jesus sitting on a cloud awaiting the word to reap the earth and He does not do so until the angel comes out of the temple (which is the abode of the Father) with the word to begin harvesting the earth.