Does Jesus care about the state of the world?

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I am trying to understand something so I figure I would start with a simple question. This will help me with the deeper things.

I read a bit from Aquinas about God the Father and his nature. He only feels what is in his nature. Jesus on the other hand is fully human and fully divine.

So my question is, with everything going on in the world does Jesus feel sorrow or grief? He is in heaven and would think that he wouldn’t because he is with the Father. Some say Jesus did grieve while on earth. Any thoughts? ??? 🙂
 
What Jesus suffered on earth applies to all time, He suffers no longer, but He does suffer in His followers, in the Mystical Body of Christ. He saw His mission, and accomplished it for all time. Now He reigns with His Father and the Holy Spirit, as He did before He became God-man. We share in His sufferings as well as in His glories. We offer ourselves in union with Him in the Unbloody Sacrifice of the Mass. His sufferings merited salvation for man until the end of time, and He is the Highpriest petitoning to the Father for us. So Jesus does suffer in His followers mystically. Remember we have our existence in God, and share our spiritual lives with Him, He becomes one with us in our sufferings and in our joys, in all things. " Father glorify Me with the glory I had with You before the world was made" Father make them one with Me as I am one with You… Now Jesus enjoys the eternal vision of His accomplishments, but we see only in part, until we are united with Him in Heaven. When He suffered on earth, He grieved, “Oh Jerusalem, how I would have gathered you like a hen under her wings, but you would not, now I leave your house desolate, and not a stone will be left upon a stone…” Remember Jesus is God-man, and His grief applies to all men through all time, He is a Divine Person, reigning eternally with the Father, and the Holy Spirit at the same time. His concern for the suffering of men is for all time. He never stopped being God-man. He reigns now with His Glorified Body!
 
Absolutely. That is why we pray constantly for the conversion of souls, the deliverance from evil, and the will of God to be done daily.
Read up on the Divine Mercy.
Read up on the approved messages of Our Lady, particularly Fatima.
Read up on the holy souls in purgatory.
Jesus is wounded by our transgressions. We have to do what we can in prayer and service to ease His suffering, through our ministry to others.
We are His hands and feet in this world.
God bless.
 
Pianistclare, I wish we had like buttons, I would like your response.😉
 
pianistclare said:
Absolutely. That is why we pray constantly for the conversion of souls, the deliverance from evil, and the will of God to be done daily.
Read up on the Divine Mercy.
Read up on the approved messages of Our Lady, particularly Fatima.
Read up on the holy souls in purgatory.
Jesus is wounded by our transgressions. We have to do what we can in prayer and service to ease His suffering, through our ministry to others.
We are His hands and feet in this world.
God bless.
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I just wanted to make a comment about one thing you stated. *That we have to do what we can in prayer and service to ease His suffering. *

Jesus is in heaven with the Father. He is not suffering. Yes, He did suffer for our sins, but that was while He was on earth, and that was a one time event when He died for our sins. In heaven there is no pain or suffering. I find it offensive to think that Jesus needs our help. He is God.
 
ynotzap said:
What Jesus suffered on earth applies to all time, He suffers no longer, but He does suffer in His followers, in the Mystical Body of Christ. He saw His mission, and accomplished it for all time. Now He reigns with His Father and the Holy Spirit, as He did before He became God-man. We share in His sufferings as well as in His glories. We offer ourselves in union with Him in the Unbloody Sacrifice of the Mass. His sufferings merited salvation for man until the end of time, and He is the Highpriest petitoning to the Father for us. So Jesus does suffer in His followers mystically. Remember we have our existence in God, and share our spiritual lives with Him, He becomes one with us in our sufferings and in our joys, in all things. " Father glorify Me with the glory I had with You before the world was made" Father make them one with Me as I am one with You… Now Jesus enjoys the eternal vision of His accomplishments, but we see only in part, until we are united with Him in Heaven. When He suffered on earth, He grieved, “Oh Jerusalem, how I would have gathered you like a hen under her wings, but you would not, now I leave your house desolate, and not a stone will be left upon a stone…” Remember Jesus is God-man, and His grief applies to all men through all time, He is a Divine Person, reigning eternally with the Father, and the Holy Spirit at the same time. His concern for the suffering of men is for all time. He never stopped being God-man. He reigns now with His Glorified Body!
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Fantastic post, ynotzap.👍 I like that very much!🙂
 
SJacob7 said:
I just wanted to make a comment about one thing you stated. *That we have to do what we can in prayer and service to ease His suffering. *

Jesus is in heaven with the Father. He is not suffering. Yes, He did suffer for our sins, but that was while He was on earth, and that was a one time event when He died for our sins. In heaven there is no pain or suffering. I find it offensive to think that Jesus needs our help. He is God.
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You’ve never ever been told that Jesus’ wounds are caused by our sins? If we sin tomorrow, are you saying that it does not pain Him?
The Catechism of the Catholic Church contains these words:
  • Since our sins made the Lord Christ suffer the torment of the cross, those who plunge themselves into disorders and crimes crucify the Son of God anew in their hearts (for he is in them) and hold him up to contempt. And it can be seen that our crime in this case is greater in us than in the Jews. As for them, according to the witness of the apostle, “None of the rulers of this age understood this; for if they had, they would not have crucified the Lord of glory.” We, however, profess to know him. And when we deny him by our deeds, we in some way seem to lay violent hands on him. Nor did demons crucify him; it is you who have crucified him and crucify him still, when you delight in your vices and sins. (CCC 598, quoting St. Francis of Assisi, Admonitio 5.3)*
That every Mass is another Calvary?
Of course He’s not PHYSICALLY suffering…but He certainly feels the pain of every living thing that is abused or ill. Many times we speak of Jesus’ heart…pierced for us.
Jesus indeed needs us to carry out the work of His kingdom.

If not us, who is going to do it?
And why should we? I guess we’re redeemed and it’s over and done with?
That is not a Catholic perspective.
We must work in the vineyard. It’s the work of the Lord that we do.
Indeed, the laborers are few. Peace.
 
pianistclare said:
You’ve never ever been told that Jesus’ wounds are caused by our sins? If we sin tomorrow, are you saying that it does not pain Him?
The Catechism of the Catholic Church contains these words:
  • Since our sins made the Lord Christ suffer the torment of the cross, those who plunge themselves into disorders and crimes crucify the Son of God anew in their hearts (for he is in them) and hold him up to contempt. And it can be seen that our crime in this case is greater in us than in the Jews. As for them, according to the witness of the apostle, “None of the rulers of this age understood this; for if they had, they would not have crucified the Lord of glory.” We, however, profess to know him. And when we deny him by our deeds, we in some way seem to lay violent hands on him. Nor did demons crucify him; it is you who have crucified him and crucify him still, when you delight in your vices and sins. (CCC 598, quoting St. Francis of Assisi, Admonitio 5.3)*
That every Mass is another Calvary?
Of course He’s not PHYSICALLY suffering…but He certainly feels the pain of every living thing that is abused or ill. Many times we speak of Jesus’ heart…pierced for us.
Jesus indeed needs us to carry out the work of His kingdom.

If not us, who is going to do it?
And why should we? I guess we’re redeemed and it’s over and done with?
That is not a Catholic perspective.
We must work in the vineyard. It’s the work of the Lord that we do.
Indeed, the laborers are few. Peace.
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I love to do the work of the Lord. That is not suffering to me!
 
SJacob7 said:
:rotfl::rotfl: You are correct! I don’t work in a parish :signofcross:

My wife and I are missionaries in Haiti. 🙂
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our parish sends a team of about 18 folks every January to Espwa village, a school and orphanage run by Catholic Relief Services.
our parish is very involved in Haiti.
How beautiful.
 
pianistclare said:
our parish sends a team of about 18 folks every January to Espwa village, a school and orphanage run by Catholic Relief Services.
our parish is very involved in Haiti.
How beautiful.
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Fantastic! God Bless you and the ones He sends out. We live in Ti Lagon, Northwest Haiti. It always warms my heart to hear of parishes that send out people into the mission field. May our Lord Jesus Christ bless you and the ones He sends!
 
Caligirl81 said:
Thank you. How does one ease Jesus’ suffering?
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Jesus said “What you do unto them, you do unto me!” By loving our fellow humans as we love ourselves, and love God with all our strength, and complete selves. Lifting the sufferings of mankind, body and soul with the grace of God, the practice of the virtues of Faith, Hope and Love.
 
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