Does ordination of bishops in other apostolic sees require papal approval?

[chan_koi]

We only have one apostolic see now simply because the rest have gone away (The Orthodox). But lets say that the rest are still in communion with the Catholic Church (the Orthodox hadn’t broken away), does the ordination there (in their respective sees) require approval by the Bishop of Rome?

I find it weird if it’s the case because the bishops in the sees should merely be connected to their respective apostolic sees. So according to my understanding they need not be approved by the Bishop of Rome, but merely by the bishop of the local apostolic see (for example by the Patriarch of Alexandria).

 

[JReducation]

We only have one apostolic see now simply because the rest have gone away (The Orthodox). But lets say that the rest are still in communion with the Catholic Church (the Orthodox hadn’t broken away), does the ordination there (in their respective sees) require approval by the Bishop of Rome?

I find it weird if it’s the case because the bishops in the sees should merely be connected to their respective apostolic sees. So according to my understanding they need not be approved by the Bishop of Rome, but merely by the bishop of the local apostolic see (for example by the Patriarch of Alexandria).

The Eastern Churches have their own code of law. The code says

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Canon 86

1. The patriarch is competent:

(1) to give a patriarchal letter of canonical provision to a metropolitan or a bishop;

(2) to ordain metropolitans either personally or, if impeded, through other bishops, and, if particular law thus stipulates, also to ordain all bishops;

(3) to enthrone the metropolitan after episcopal ordination.

1. By virtue of the law itself the faculty is given to the patriarch to ordain and enthrone a metropolitan and other bishops of the Church over which he presides who are appointed by the Roman Pontiff outside the territorial boundaries of the same Church unless in a special case it is expressly stipulated otherwise.
2. Episcopal ordination and enthronement must take place within the term stipulated by law; the patriarchal letter of canonical provision is to be given within ten days of the proclamation of the election. The Apostolic See is to be notified as soon as possible of the episcopal ordination and enthronement.**

In the case of the Latin Church, the Bishop of Rome was also the Patriarch of the West.

I hope this helps.

Fraternally,

Br. JR, OSF

 

[chan_koi]

Thanks a lot! That really helps!

 

[mardukm]

YES.

EVERY NEW bishop (from the presbyteral order) requires papal approval, in the form of a papal assent.

The following may help:
forums.catholic-questions.org/showpost.php?p=8151986&postcount=1

In a certain and very real sense, according to Catholic Canon law, the approval of EVERY bishop is required for every NEW bishop.

Canon 375§2. Through episcopal consecration itself, bishops receive with the function of sanctifying also the functions of teaching and governing; by their nature, however, these can only be exercised in hierarchical communion with the head and members of the college.

This canon, of course, merely reflects the infallible teaching of the ordinary, universal Magisterium as expressed by Vatican 2.

Many Catholics (Absolutist Petrine advocates) and non-Catholics (Low Petrine advocates)often miss or purposefully neglect this important feature of Catholic ecclesiology.

Catholic ecclesiology is officially and formally High Petrine, working and living on the principles of collegiality.

Blessings,
Marduk