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**The original question steems from a personal preference to receive Jesus on the tongue and kneeling.
His pastor accused him of doing so out of personal pride. He is requesting impute as what other Catholic do and why?**
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Were you aware that the Norm for the world wide RCC is still to receive our Blessed Lord and Savior on our tongue?
We are “standing” because in direct and deliberate disobedience by America’s Bishops [all who promoted this falsehood as a “mandate of Vatican II.”] Communion rails were ripped out and not included in new “Gathering Spaces; which is the official language for what we used to call churches, by America Bishops. It is NOT, nor was it ever a requirement of Vatican II.
Bishops either knew this or should have known this. Nor was this action pre-approved by Rome, nor was Romes Opinion even sought until AFTER it had become an already “common practice.” And this was but the first step in remaking the American RCC basic understanding of who and what we are. What our role is to be, and what God’s role is to be.
This practice changes fundamentally the theology of how we receive our Lord, and the intrinsic relationship we have with Him on a most personal basis. The results have been nothing shot of disastrous for the Church in America. The number of practicing Catholics has gone from about 73% to 23%, the number actually going to Confession even once a year, from about 70% to less than 10%. And these are just two dismal testimonies of the effects of no-longer being focused on God, but on ourselves.
One can see from the example of Pope Benedict that Rome has a clear and specific preference for receiving kneeling and on the tongue. Returning to a MORE GOD focused, less “we are THE church” focus which has like poison Ivy, spread rapidly and caused GREAT havoc and harm to Christ Church.
There is, short of Baptism, nothing a Catholic can do that is of GREATER significance than to receive our Blessed Lord, really Jesus Christ Himself, in a physical manner that gives clear visual evidence of what we are doing, whom we are receiving, and how very much we actually believe what we practice, in our minds and hearts.
Today NO Mass is very much “us centered” and far less God centered. Until that changes, we shall never see true growth again in the RCC in America.
How one chooses to receive their God, is the most important, and the most personal decision a Catholic can make. This decision is so important, that it should make based on what feels in their mind and heart, is the right thing to do.
One does a huge disservice by casting this in the light of “obedience to ones Bishop.” No I am not suggestion one should be deliberately, rather one MUST do what feels called by God to do.
Peter said, “as for me, I will obey my God” and so should we.
Respectfully yours in Christ
Pat
His pastor accused him of doing so out of personal pride. He is requesting impute as what other Catholic do and why?**
**Friend, I respectfully disagree with all you have posted above for the following reasons.
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Were you aware that the Norm for the world wide RCC is still to receive our Blessed Lord and Savior on our tongue?
We are “standing” because in direct and deliberate disobedience by America’s Bishops [all who promoted this falsehood as a “mandate of Vatican II.”] Communion rails were ripped out and not included in new “Gathering Spaces; which is the official language for what we used to call churches, by America Bishops. It is NOT, nor was it ever a requirement of Vatican II.
Bishops either knew this or should have known this. Nor was this action pre-approved by Rome, nor was Romes Opinion even sought until AFTER it had become an already “common practice.” And this was but the first step in remaking the American RCC basic understanding of who and what we are. What our role is to be, and what God’s role is to be.
This practice changes fundamentally the theology of how we receive our Lord, and the intrinsic relationship we have with Him on a most personal basis. The results have been nothing shot of disastrous for the Church in America. The number of practicing Catholics has gone from about 73% to 23%, the number actually going to Confession even once a year, from about 70% to less than 10%. And these are just two dismal testimonies of the effects of no-longer being focused on God, but on ourselves.
One can see from the example of Pope Benedict that Rome has a clear and specific preference for receiving kneeling and on the tongue. Returning to a MORE GOD focused, less “we are THE church” focus which has like poison Ivy, spread rapidly and caused GREAT havoc and harm to Christ Church.
There is, short of Baptism, nothing a Catholic can do that is of GREATER significance than to receive our Blessed Lord, really Jesus Christ Himself, in a physical manner that gives clear visual evidence of what we are doing, whom we are receiving, and how very much we actually believe what we practice, in our minds and hearts.
Today NO Mass is very much “us centered” and far less God centered. Until that changes, we shall never see true growth again in the RCC in America.
How one chooses to receive their God, is the most important, and the most personal decision a Catholic can make. This decision is so important, that it should make based on what feels in their mind and heart, is the right thing to do.
One does a huge disservice by casting this in the light of “obedience to ones Bishop.” No I am not suggestion one should be deliberately, rather one MUST do what feels called by God to do.
Peter said, “as for me, I will obey my God” and so should we.
Respectfully yours in Christ
Pat
