Does physical Law Require an explanation for its existence?

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Does physical Law Require an explanation?

Why does physical law operate the way it does?

Can physical events explain the existence of physical law?
 
Does physical Law Require an explanation?

Why does physical law operate the way it does?

Can physical events explain the existence of physical law?
No

Because God commanded it to.

No, but Gods Word can, since he put it into existence.
 
Does physical Law Require an explanation?

Why does physical law operate the way it does?

Can physical events explain the existence of physical law?
By definition isn’t a physical law a description of an underlying phenomenon?
 
Does physical Law Require an explanation?

Why does physical law operate the way it does?

Can physical events explain the existence of physical law?
to one yes

to two because that is the way the universe is created.

to three no because those physical events couldn’t happen without physical laws, and physical laws can’t exist without any events happening so some outside force must have created both at the same time. AKA God.
 
Physical laws require explanation because this is not the only possible universe.

Physical laws are simply descriptions of the regularities in the universe.

Physical events cannot explain the existence of physical laws because that would amount to physical events explaining themselves!
 
No

Because God commanded it to.

No, but Gods Word can, since he put it into existence.
This is the philosophy forum by the way. Your explanations are theological at best and assertions at worst.
 
By definition isn’t a physical law a description of an underlying phenomenon?
Yes. We are talking about the laws of physics. For example, Atoms have particular ways of behaving, and we understand from observing its behaviour that there are particular consistent “rules” or “laws” that are attributable to the nature of atoms.
 
to one yes

to two because that is the way the universe is created.

to three no because those physical events couldn’t happen without physical laws, and physical laws can’t exist without any events happening so some outside force must have created both at the same time. AKA God.
Why God?
 
Yes. We are talking about the laws of physics. For example, Atoms have particular ways of behaving, and we understand from observing its behaviour that there are particular consistent “rules” or “laws” that are attributable to the nature of atoms.
It would seem that a causal explanation for physical laws, while desirable, is not necessary. Some one can, based on observations, come up with a description on how something behaves without coming up with a description on how it works. It’s not often that we distinguish between how something works and how it behaves. For the sake of clarity let’s take a watch as an example. Given a watch and a limited amount of time observing one might find that a battery powered mechanical watch, a watch with a wind up know, and a watch with a self winding mechanism all behave identically over a short observation time even though their inner workings are different.

Similarly one can examine other physical behaviours and come up with descriptions for them. Given a ball and enough time I can start to come up with a law of where it will land when thrown with a certain amount of force at certain angles. It’s possible to do this without having discovered in detail how gravity and air friction “work.”

With all that being said I think there are two ways to view your question

  1. *]Are there inner workings to all physical phenomenon
    *]Must we know the inner workings of all physical phenomenon

    For the first I’m biased towards thinking that there are (at least there are more inner workings than we know). To the second the answer is “no” for the reasons I’ve illustrated in the watch and ball trajectory examples.
 
It would seem that a causal explanation for physical laws, while desirable, is not necessary. .
That depends on the context in which a question is asked. Scientifically speaking there is no need for an explanation if by science we are in the business of empirically **describing **physical events and their behaviour. However, that in no way means that a thing does not need an explanation if it does not fall within the scientific context of an explanation. When science no-longer has the epistemological authority to explain existence, all that can mean is that the scientific method is not suitable for answering a particular kind of question. This alone, as I have pointed out, is not a rational basis to stop asking why a thing exists as it does. A thing still needs an explanation if it fails to explain its own existence in reference to itself. This is true of physical laws.
 
Because God created them? Why not God? So intelligent beings came into existence from random events that didn’t require any wisdom or knowledge to perform, without ANY thought of how things were to begin and end. I would rather keep my age old religious beliefs then swap them with any modern-science explanation of how things came to be, unless it complies with the premise that is based on God creating the world by his word. That is all we need to know to live.
 
Because God created them? Why not God? So intelligent beings came into existence from random events that didn’t require any wisdom or knowledge to perform, without ANY thought of how things were to begin and end. I would rather keep my age old religious beliefs then swap them with any modern-science explanation of how things came to be, unless it complies with the premise that is based on God creating the world by his word. That is all we need to know to live.
Assuming you are interested in giving a sound philosophical explanation as to why physical laws exist, I must point out to you that you have merely asserted that it is God who made it simply because you find the alternative undesirable or difficult to accept. While I am not necessarily against pragmatic solutions, I would like a philosophical argument as to why you think God made it.
Why can’t it be the case that physical laws are necessary?

I am really not interested in what you like or dislike; neither do I care much for your dislike of science. You are not helping anybody by telling them this.
 
lets start with something simpler and work our way to God

the entity that created both the first physical event and the physical laws, is the first cause, the unmoved mover, and necessary.

When we look at our universe it must be the case that this entity exists.
 
Why would that be a problem?
how can a physical event happen without underlying physical laws?

how can a physical event create something that it must have in order to exist.

this is like arguing that an apple must fall from a tree for gravity to exist, but the apple can’t fall from the tree without the force of gravity. So if gravity depends on the falling of the apple to exist, gravity won’t exist. If the apple depends on gravity to fall than gravity can’t exist.

the same goes for physical laws, it always exists form the beginning of something, but it doesn’t exist when there is nothing, and it can’t cause itself to exist.

bellow is not part of debate just my personal comments

I don’t believe physical laws actually exist per say, rather they are explanations of natural things. The natural things exist but the laws explaining them don’t, they just explain the way things always happen. But this doesn’t change what we are arguing the universe needs a cause for its existence physical laws or a physical event by itself doesn’t explain why we have the universe.
 
Why can’t it be the case that physical laws are necessary?
  1. There is not one jot of evidence that **any **feature of the universe is necessary.
  2. If the physical laws of the universe are necessary they are either intended to be necessary or they just happen to be necessary.
  3. If they are intended to be necessary it is necessary to produce a **reason **why they are necessary!
  4. If they are not intended to be necessary it is necessary to produce a cause for their being necessary.
  5. If no reason or cause is produced it is unreasonable to believe they or any**thing **else is necessary.
 
Physical laws are just a description of how reality works. When theists talk about there needing to be an explanation for how physical laws work what we mean is there has to be an explanation for how reality works the way it does.

So when people like Stephen Hawking say “nothing exists, but the law of gravity means the Big Bang that created the universe would have to occur”, the response of theists is, okay, but why is there a law of gravity at all?
 
  1. There is not one jot of evidence that **any **feature of the universe is necessary.
  2. If the physical laws of the universe are necessary they are either intended to be necessary or they just happen to be necessary.
Not so a sure about this. I think a naturalist would ask “Can we truly say that an event is necessary without it necessarily “existing” .” Is it rational to say that something can be both “intended” to be necessary and be necessary at the same time?

I think a Naturalist would want to know why you think such and such is possible.
  1. If they are intended to be necessary it is necessary to produce a **reason **why they are necessary!
True, if it is reasonable to say that a thing is intended to be necessary…
  1. If they are not intended to be necessary it is necessary to produce a cause for their being necessary.
  1. If no reason or cause is produced it is unreasonable to believe they or any**thing **else is necessary.
I don’t understand. Can’t a thing simply be existentially necessary? Wouldn’t your argument be problematic for anybody who wants to say that God is necessary and therefore does not need a cause? Given your argument, It seems that a Naturalist could say that the necessity of God requires an explanation.

I have a feeling that is not the impression you intended to give.🙂
 
Physical laws are just a description of how reality works. When theists talk about there needing to be an explanation for how physical laws work what we mean is there has to be an explanation for how reality works the way it does.

So when people like Stephen Hawking say “nothing exists, but the law of gravity means the Big Bang that created the universe would have to occur”, the response of theists is, okay, but why is there a law of gravity at all?
Yes. I agree. Why does there have to be gravity indeed.🙂
 
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