Does prayer really work?

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Concrete thinkers would say certainly not. How could it possibly work? But there are those of us who pray every day and will insist that it truly does work. How exactly does it work, I do not know, but I do know that it indeed does work.
 
Concrete thinkers would say certainly not. How could it possibly work? But there are those of us who pray every day and will insist that it truly does work. How exactly does it work, I do not know, but I do know that it indeed does work.
I agree with you that it does work. Prayer changes us internally for the better and has the potential to set us on the right path. However, per Judaism and Catholicism, it must properly be followed by some behavioral change. (I realize there are several different kinds of prayer and not all are directly related to ourselves, for example, prayers of thanksgiving and prayers for others.) And the change in ourselves occurs even when we do not always get the answer we would like.

As you probably know, there have been psychological studies concerning the efficacy of prayer, in particular, praying for others who do not know we are praying for them. It does seem to have a moderate influence although findings have been mixed.
 
Prayer works to transform us, more than anything else.

As we transform our hearts to being more and more in line with the heart of Jesus Christ, we’re able to accept whatever comes to us in life as the “Divine Flow,” which is His will for us.

“If we do not transform our pain, we will most assuredly transmit it.” Fr Richard Rohr

Prayer is the path to transformation

Jim
 
This is a little off-topic, but I’ve been having deep relationship problems with my daughter for the past month or so and I’ve been constantly sad and often feeling like I would like my life to come to an end, even though I’m not the least bit suicidal. Anyway, I ran out of Xanax and so my psychiatrist prescribed me some Ativan. I took some of the Ativan this morning and I’m in a state of complete apathy. All the sadness and pain is gone no matter how much I think of her. She’s an atheist and I pray for her every day with deep feeling. Today, however, when I pray I feel nothing at all–all the feelings are gone. Cognitively, I know I’m praying for her, but, again, there’s no feeling whatsoever attached to the prayers. Are the feelings of deep sincerity needed for such prayer to be valid?
 
Concrete thinkers would say certainly not. How could it possibly work? But there are those of us who pray every day and will insist that it truly does work. How exactly does it work, I do not know, but I do know that it indeed does work.
I feel fairly certain that thoughts are very powerful. (Don’t take that to mean like in a weird creepy sci-fi “firestarter” type of way, but I mean in a personal way) Prayer has a lot to do with thoughts I think - at least in Catholic terms, prayers are more than just thoughts but a practice of mortification and formation of one’s conscience… as Jim and metzerboy were saying here- that’s pretty darn powerful in and of itself.

Hypnotists understand how powerful thoughts are. We hear of “the power of suggestion”… so how would prayer be any different when we suggest or even know God hears us? Magicians know how to say things to lead/mislead the one’s he sets out to mystify and entertain. Psychology also uses cognitive behavioral therapy to introduce thought patterns that will therein try and influence a change in behavior. In schools we just don’t have teachers hap hazardly throwing out random facts- but are presented in ways where the capacity for learning and retaining and using that information is enhanced. (an organization of thoughts)
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In our own quiet personal selves what we think has power over us... to despair or to hope.     I have heard that people are only as good as their idols-  meaning, if they don't see anything higher in this life other than their idol who happens to be an immoral person, that is all the father they will ascribe themselves to emulate-   so yeah,  thought is powerful.  What one thinks is telling.  Whole cultures are formed on collective thoughts 'ok'ed and accepted- even* if* they are heinous ideals they uphold.  It can take ONE person to introduce a new thought for good or for bad.   This is also why Scripture touts us to guard our tongues and also why its very important we think about good things said in Philippians 4:"8 ....
“Finally, brothers and sisters, whatever is true, whatever is noble, whatever is right, whatever is pure, whatever is lovely, whatever is admirable–if anything is excellent or praiseworthy--think about such things.”

It is also said that from the heart the mouth speaks. Luke 6:35 A good man brings good things out of the good stored up in his heart, and an evil man brings evil things out of the evil stored up in his heart. For the mouth speaks what the heart is full of.

How do you get your heart full of good then?? You PRAY! You meditate on God. Strive and seek to find God.

Prayer though is more than just thought, but it is thought plus the exercise of hope faith and love. Its more powerful. Its trans-formative. No man is an island. A transformed soul filled with the Holy Spirit is an overflowing cup, bound to effect those around them.

We are told to pray whether or not we feel like it, or even if we believe in it, and especially when tough times with their temptations to despair storm about us. Prayers are not always answered though. And its a real temptation to say that prayer doesn’t work when something we had been praying for never manifests. We don’t know the reasons. I’ve also heard people preach to be specific with prayers- like, really specific, but my thoughts on that is the saying “be careful what you wish/pray for, you might just get it!” :eek: lol. … I think.

Proverbs 4:23
Watch over your heart with all diligence, For from it flow the springs of life.

^ Prayer is what regulates that.
 
It doesn’t always “work” in the sense that we always get what we asked for when we prayed. Sometimes we get it, sometimes we get some modified version of it, and sometimes we don’t get it at all.

It does “work” in the sense of bringing us closer to God and giving us grace, helping us love others more by praying for them, and helping us better discern God’s will by becoming more spiritual and developing our relationship with God.

From my personal experience, it makes me feel better spiritually and mentally to pray frequently as I’m more connected to God and other living and deceased people. It also has brought about positive physical changes in my life when I add certain fasting and exercise penances to a prayer plan. There are also probably other benefits to me that I am not enlightened enough to comprehend fully at this time.
 
God works in response to our prayer, yes. Always. Some people are never satisfied with the answer though.
 
This is a little off-topic, but I’ve been having deep relationship problems with my daughter for the past month or so and I’ve been constantly sad and often feeling like I would like my life to come to an end, even though I’m not the least bit suicidal. Anyway, I ran out of Xanax and so my psychiatrist prescribed me some Ativan. I took some of the Ativan this morning and I’m in a state of complete apathy. All the sadness and pain is gone no matter how much I think of her. She’s an atheist and I pray for her every day with deep feeling. Today, however, when I pray I feel nothing at all–all the feelings are gone. Cognitively, I know I’m praying for her, but, again, there’s no feeling whatsoever attached to the prayers. Are the feelings of deep sincerity needed for such prayer to be valid?
Robert,
Faith is not a feeling. Feelings are not needed for the validity of prayer - perseverance is. Continue to pray for your daughter.

Be at peace.
 
Robert, let hope and trust be your anchors. I used to think 20 years was a long time to pray for a loved one’s conversion, such as St. Monica did for her son, Augustine. However, I have prayed now over forty years for my daughters’ conversions. It seemed that God would have me trust that all my prayers and offerings of daily mass during these years are “prayers in the bank” - able to be redeemed by them at a single moment known only to God.

He inspired me with the parable of a seed. Some germinate (open to grow) after only five days, such as marigolds. Others, like a sweet pea, can take over two months. The important thing is never to withhold water (our constant prayers) lest the seed die. I may never know of their conversion in my lifetime, but I stand fast in God’s promise.

[1] Blessed is the man that feareth the Lord: he shall delight exceedingly in his commandments. [2] **His seed **shall be mighty upon earth: the generation of the righteous shall be blessed. Ps. 111
 
Robert, let hope and trust be your anchors. I used to think 20 years was a long time to pray for a loved one’s conversion, such as St. Monica did for her son, Augustine. However, I have prayed now over forty years for my daughters’ conversions. It seemed that God would have me trust that all my prayers and offerings of daily mass during these years are “prayers in the bank” - able to be redeemed by them at a single moment known only to God.

He inspired me with the parable of a seed. Some germinate (open to grow) after only five days, such as marigolds. Others, like a sweet pea, can take over two months. The important thing is never to withhold water (our constant prayers) lest the seed die. I may never know of their conversion in my lifetime, but I stand fast in God’s promise.

[1] Blessed is the man that feareth the Lord: he shall delight exceedingly in his commandments. [2] **His seed **shall be mighty upon earth: the generation of the righteous shall be blessed. Ps. 111
Beautifully stated. Thank you for this testimony of love…
 
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