Does the Bible define itself?

[diggerdomer]

Ps 119:99-104
I have more understanding than all my teachers, for Your testimonies are my meditation. I understand more than the ancients, because I keep Your precepts. I have restrained my feet from every evil way, that I may keep Your word. I have not departed from Your judgments, for You Yourself have taught me. How sweet are **Your words **to my taste, sweeter than honey to my mouth! Through Your precepts I get understanding; Therefore I hate every false way.

2 Chronicles 36:21-22 (King James Version)
21To fulfil the **word of the LORD **by the mouth of Jeremiah, until the land had enjoyed her sabbaths: for as long as she lay desolate she kept sabbath, to fulfil threescore and ten years.
22Now in the first year of Cyrus king of Persia, that **the word of the LORD spoken by the mouth of Jeremiah **might be accomplished, the LORD stirred up the spirit of Cyrus king of Persia, that he made a proclamation throughout all his kingdom, and put it also in writing, saying,

Matthew 5:17-18 (King James Version)
17Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil.
18For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from **the law, **till all be fulfilled.

Luke 22:37-38 (King James Version)
37For I say unto you, that this that is written must yet be accomplished in me, And he was reckoned among the transgressors: for the things concerning me have an end.

John 1-3;14 (King James Version)
1In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.
2The same was in the beginning with God.
3All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made.
14And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth.

Romans 13:9-10 (King James Version)
9For this, Thou shalt not commit adultery, Thou shalt not kill, Thou shalt not steal, Thou shalt not bear false witness, Thou shalt not covet; and if there be any other commandment, it is briefly comprehended in this saying, namely, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself.
10Love worketh no ill to his neighbour: therefore love is the fulfilling of the law.

2 Corinthians 1:20 (King James Version)
20For all **the promises of God in him **are yea, and in him Amen, unto the glory of God by us.

2Tim 3:14-17
But as for you, **continue in the things which you have learned **and been assured of, knowing from whom you have learned them, and that from childhood you have known the Holy Scriptures, which are able to make you wise for salvation through faith which is in Christ Jesus. All Scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness, that the man of God may be complete, thoroughly equipped for every good work.

Deuteronomy 6:5 (New King James Version)
5 You shall **love the LORD **your God with all your heart, with all your soul, and with all your strength.

Deuteronomy 7:9 (King James Version)
9Know therefore that the LORD thy God, he is God, the faithful God, which keepeth covenant and mercy with them that **love him and keep his commandments **to a thousand generations;

Deuteronomy 7:12 (King James Version)
12Wherefore it shall come to pass, if ye hearken to these judgments, and keep, and do them, that the LORD thy God shall keep unto thee the covenant and the mercy which he sware unto thy fathers:
[our fathers are Abraham,Isaac,Jacob, God spoke to them and made a covenant(God’s law), and Moses recorded the account as given by God in scripture(God’s law), aka the bible(God’s law). The fulfillment of the covenant(God’s law) is in Christ(the law made flesh).

Deuteronomy 10:12 (King James Version)
12And now, Israel(metaphor for the true believer,as God is from everlasting to everlasting, His word is the same, it is the same message then, as it is now, nothing has changed), **what doth the LORD thy God require

of thee, but to fear the LORD thy God, to walk in all his ways, and to love him, and to serve the LORD thy God with all thy heart and with all thy soul,

Deuteronomy 11:1 (King James Version)
1Therefore thou shalt love the LORD thy God, and keep his charge, and his statutes, and his judgments, and his commandments, always.

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Matthew 13:34-35 (King James Version)
34All these things **Jesus spoke **to the multitude in parables; and **without a parable He did not speak **to them,
35 that is might be fulfilled which was spoken by the prophet, saying:“I will open My mouth in parables; I will utter things which have been kept secret from the foundation of the world.”

Psalm 78:2 I will open my mouth in a parable.

Mark 5:33-34 (King James Version)
33And with **many such parables He spoke the word **to them as they were able to hear it.
34But **without a parable He did not speak **to them. And when they were alone, He explained all things to His disciples.

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Do you see a connection?

No.

But, that’s irrelevant.

You didn’t say there was a connection between Jesus Christ and the Bible, you said the two were one and the same.

Try again? Meaning, NO KIDDING there is a connection between Jesus Christ and the Bible…but that is completely different from claiming they are one and the same as you did.

So…try again?

Thanks.

 

[BibleAnswer]

No.

But, that’s irrelevant.

You didn’t say there was a connection between Jesus Christ and the Bible, you said the two were one and the same.

Try again? Meaning, NO KIDDING there is a connection between Jesus Christ and the Bible…but that is completely different from claiming they are one and the same as you did.

So…try again?

Thanks.

LOL, think about it my friend. I wasn’t being literal of course, the bible is pen and paper, however the words on the pages are called the the Word of God and Christ is called the Word of God. The bible is His law, the whole law, and Christ is the law, the whole law made flesh.

Its a spiritual connection.

 

[diggerdomer]

LOL, think about it my friend. I wasn’t being literal of course, the bible is pen and paper, however the words on the pages are called the the Word of God and Christ is called the Word of God. The bible is His law, the whole law, and Christ is the law, the whole law made flesh.

Its a spiritual connection.

Ok, thanks.

My car is green. My grass in our yard is green. So my car is one and the same with my grass.

That’s the syllogism you seemed to propose, which is obviously …umm…lacking.

So you do agree, then, despite what you wrote, that Jesus Christ and the Bible are not one and the same?

 

[BibleAnswer]

Ok, thanks.

My car is green. My grass in our yard is green. So my car is one and the same with my grass.

That’s the syllogism you seemed to propose, which is obviously …umm…lacking.

So you do agree, then, despite what you wrote, that Jesus Christ and the Bible are not one and the same?

Syllogism? lol

your argument is **weak **my friend.

I gave you ample proof from Gods word the Bible.

And you gave me a grass and car analogy.

Try again with something specific or ask a question from scripture if you want to further our debate.

 

[zach_dunn]

Ps 119:99-104
I have more understanding than all my teachers, for Your testimonies are my meditation. I understand more than the ancients, because I keep Your precepts. I have restrained my feet from every evil way, that I may keep Your word. I have not departed from Your judgments, for You Yourself have taught me. How sweet are **Your words **to my taste, sweeter than honey to my mouth! Through Your precepts I get understanding; Therefore I hate every false way.

2 Chronicles 36:21-22 (King James Version)
21To fulfil the **word of the LORD **by the mouth of Jeremiah, until the land had enjoyed her sabbaths: for as long as she lay desolate she kept sabbath, to fulfil threescore and ten years.
22Now in the first year of Cyrus king of Persia, that **the word of the LORD spoken by the mouth of Jeremiah **might be accomplished, the LORD stirred up the spirit of Cyrus king of Persia, that he made a proclamation throughout all his kingdom, and put it also in writing, saying,

Matthew 5:17-18 (King James Version)
17Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil.
18For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from **the law, **till all be fulfilled.

Luke 22:37-38 (King James Version)
37For I say unto you, that this that is written must yet be accomplished in me, And he was reckoned among the transgressors: for the things concerning me have an end.

John 1-3;14 (King James Version)
1In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.
2The same was in the beginning with God.
3All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made.
14And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth.

Romans 13:9-10 (King James Version)
9For this, Thou shalt not commit adultery, Thou shalt not kill, Thou shalt not steal, Thou shalt not bear false witness, Thou shalt not covet; and if there be any other commandment, it is briefly comprehended in this saying, namely, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself.
10Love worketh no ill to his neighbour: therefore love is the fulfilling of the law.

2 Corinthians 1:20 (King James Version)
20For all **the promises of God in him **are yea, and in him Amen, unto the glory of God by us.

2Tim 3:14-17
But as for you, **continue in the things which you have learned **and been assured of, knowing from whom you have learned them, and that from childhood you have known the Holy Scriptures, which are able to make you wise for salvation through faith which is in Christ Jesus. All Scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness, that the man of God may be complete, thoroughly equipped for every good work.

Deuteronomy 6:5 (New King James Version)
5 You shall **love the LORD **your God with all your heart, with all your soul, and with all your strength.

Deuteronomy 7:9 (King James Version)
9Know therefore that the LORD thy God, he is God, the faithful God, which keepeth covenant and mercy with them that **love him and keep his commandments **to a thousand generations;

Deuteronomy 7:12 (King James Version)
12Wherefore it shall come to pass, if ye hearken to these judgments, and keep, and do them, that the LORD thy God shall keep unto thee the covenant and the mercy which he sware unto thy fathers:
[our fathers are Abraham,Isaac,Jacob, God spoke to them and made a covenant(God’s law), and Moses recorded the account as given by God in scripture(God’s law), aka the bible(God’s law). The fulfillment of the covenant(God’s law) is in Christ(the law made flesh).

Deuteronomy 10:12 (King James Version)
12And now, Israel(metaphor for the true believer,as God is from everlasting to everlasting, His word is the same, it is the same message then, as it is now, nothing has changed), **what doth the LORD thy God require

of thee, but to fear the LORD thy God, to walk in all his ways, and to love him, and to serve the LORD thy God with all thy heart and with all thy soul,

Deuteronomy 11:1 (King James Version)
1Therefore thou shalt love the LORD thy God, and keep his charge, and his statutes, and his judgments, and his commandments, always.

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Matthew 13:34-35 (King James Version)
34All these things **Jesus spoke **to the multitude in parables; and **without a parable He did not speak **to them,
35 that is might be fulfilled which was spoken by the prophet, saying:“I will open My mouth in parables; I will utter things which have been kept secret from the foundation of the world.”

Psalm 78:2 I will open my mouth in a parable.

Mark 5:33-34 (King James Version)
33And with **many such parables He spoke the word **to them as they were able to hear it.
34But **without a parable He did not speak **to them. And when they were alone, He explained all things to His disciples.

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Do you see a connection?

**I find it funny that you claim that the BIBLE is the word of God with these passages. There is nothing in these passages to suggest that God’s word is written. Just look at some of the passages you gave:

2 Chronicles 36:21-22 - the word of God is by the mouth of Jeremiah, not the pen.

Matthew 13:34-35 - spoken, not written.

Psalm 78:2 - spoken, not written.

Mark 5:33-34 - SPOKEN, not written.

If Jesus was going to be “one and the same” with anything, only Catholic Tradition would fit the bill. Words, by nature, are spoken, not written. And don’t get me wrong, I’m not saying that the Bible isn’t the word of God, I’m just saying that none of the passages you give prove that it is the word of God.**

 

[diggerdomer]

Syllogism? lol

your argument is **weak **my friend.

I gave you ample proof from Gods word the Bible.

And you gave me a grass and car analogy.

Try again with something specific or ask a question from scripture if you want to further our debate.

My analogy is no weaker than yours.

I’ll ask again (and for the last time): give us ONE example from Scripture (or wherever else you dream up you beliefs) that Jesus Christ and the Bible are one and the same.

A claim like that is contrary to the Christian tradition, so the burden of proof is on you.

Thanks.

 

[BibleAnswer]

I find it funny that you claim that the BIBLE is the word of God with these passages. There is nothing in these passages to suggest that God’s word is written. Just look at some of the passages you gave:

2 Chronicles 36:21-22 - the word of God is by the mouth of Jeremiah, not the pen.

Matthew 13:34-35 - spoken, not written.

Psalm 78:2 - spoken, not written.

Mark 5:33-34 - SPOKEN, not written.

If Jesus was going to be “one and the same” with anything, only Catholic Tradition would fit the bill. Words, by nature, are spoken, not written. And don’t get me wrong, I’m not saying that the Bible isn’t the word of God, I’m just saying that none of the passages you give prove that it is the word of God.

so when i read the bible silently, and read it out loud, it is different? No, its still the same. It is still the word of God. Because God is from everlasting to everlasting. His Word endures. Just like John 1:1 says. and John 1:14 proclaims that Christ “IS” that Word.

spiritual and parabolic language is not easily understood

 

[zach_dunn]

so when i read the bible silently, and read it out loud, it is different? No, its still the same. It is still the word of God. Because God is from everlasting to everlasting. His Word endures. Just like John 1:1 says. and John 1:14 proclaims that Christ “IS” that Word.

spiritual and parabolic language is not easily understood

**This proves my point. You cannot prove that the Bible is the word of God, why? Because nothing in the Bible indicates that it is! “His Word endures,” hmmm, that reminds me of this one verse:

1 Peter 1:25
“25 But the word of the Lord endureth for ever. And this is the word which by the gospel hath been preached unto you.”

I told you, the Bible teaches that the word of God is Apostolic preaching, aka Tradition. Why do you believe the Bible is the word of God, if you can’t prove it from the Bible (circular argument, it is impossible)?

The word of God being spoken as opposed to written makes more sense in terms of Christ. Christ is the Father’s spoken word, this is indicated in the Bible [Gen 1:1; Jn 1:3,14]. And just as I said before, I do believe the Bible is the word of God. I’m merely showing you that you have no reason to believe this, except by the authority of the Catholic Church.**

 

[BibleAnswer]

This proves my point. You cannot prove that the Bible is the word of God, why? Because nothing in the Bible indicates that it is! “His Word endures,” hmmm, that reminds me of this one verse:

1 Peter 1:25
“25 But the word of the Lord endureth for ever. And this is the word which by the gospel hath been preached unto you.”

I told you, the Bible teaches that the word of God is Apostolic preaching, aka Tradition. Why do you believe the Bible is the word of God, if you can’t prove it from the Bible (circular argument, it is impossible)?

The word of God being spoken as opposed to written makes more sense in terms of Christ. Christ is the Father’s spoken word, this is indicated in the Bible [Gen 1:1; Jn 1:3,14]. And just as I said before, I do believe the Bible is the word of God. I’m merely showing you that you have no reason to believe this, except by the authority of the Catholic Church.

Your off base,the only authority is the Word of God, that which is the bible, the “ONLY” place to find the “TRUE” Word of God.

Psalm 119:1-176; Instruction on doctrine, scripture and precepts.

Ps 119:99-104 I have more understanding than all my teachers, for Your testimonies are my meditation. I understand more than the ancients, because I keep Your precepts. I have restrained my feet from every evil way, that I may keep Your word. I have not departed from Your judgments, for You Yourself have taught me. How sweet are Your words to my taste, sweeter than honey to my mouth! Through Your precepts I get
understanding; Therefore I hate every false way.

Acts 17:11 These were more fair minded than those in Thessalonica, in that they received the word with all readiness, and searched the Scriptures daily to find out whether these things were so.

1 Ptr 2:2 As newborn babes, desire the pure milk of the word, that you may grow thereby.

1Tim 4:6-7 If you instruct the brethren in these things, you will be a good minister of Jesus Christ, nourished in the words of faith and of the good doctrine which you have carefully followed. But reject profane and old wives fables, and exercise yourself rather to godlines

2Tim 3:14-17 But as for you, continue in the things which you have learned and been assured of, knowing from whom you have learned them, and that from childhood you have known the Holy Scriptures, which are able to make you wise for salvation through faith which is in Christ Jesus. All Scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness, that the man of God may be complete, thoroughly equipped for every good work.

 

[Pons]

Do you believe that Jesus is God? If you believe Jesus is God, and Jesus is the Bible, then you believe the Bible is God.

 

[zach_dunn]

Your off base,the only authority is the Word of God, that which is the bible, the “ONLY” place to find the “TRUE” Word of God.

**I beg to differ. Christ is the only authority and delegates that authority to His Church [Mt 28:20], which then wrote the Bible in accordance with the oral teaching it received from Jesus.

Why do you put quotes around “only” and “true”? If you’re quoting why not give the source? Or are you just trying to add emphasis?**

Psalm 119:1-176; Instruction on doctrine, scripture and precepts.

It’s funny, the word “scripture” doesn’t appear in the Psalm at all. At least not in the D-R, RSV-CE, NJB, NAB, KJV, NIV, and I’m sure every other version out there.

Ps 119:99-104 I have more understanding than all my teachers, for Your testimonies are my meditation. I understand more than the ancients, because I keep Your precepts. I have restrained my feet from every evil way, that I may keep Your word. I have not departed from Your judgments, for You Yourself have taught me. How sweet are Your words to my taste, sweeter than honey to my mouth! Through Your precepts I get
understanding; Therefore I hate every false way.

This passage does not even come close to equating the word of God with the Bible, nice try.

Acts 17:11 These were more fair minded than those in Thessalonica, in that they received the word with all readiness, and searched the Scriptures daily to find out whether these things were so.

**Unfortunately for you this doesn’t have much to do with the topic at hand. This in no way suggests that the Bible is the word of God (after all, the were searching only the OT), OR that Christ and the Bible are “one and the same.”

This seems like more of an attempt to promote sola scriptura, which is not what we’re talking about.**

1 Ptr 2:2 As newborn babes, desire the pure milk of the word, that you may grow thereby.

As usual you pick out a verse that refers to God’s word without recognizing that it says absolutely nothing about His word being written down. This is not proof of anything and it doesn’t add to this discussion.

1Tim 4:6-7 If you instruct the brethren in these things, you will be a good minister of Jesus Christ, nourished in the words of faith and of the good doctrine which you have carefully followed. But reject profane and old wives fables, and exercise yourself rather to godlines

How do you think that a “good minister of Jesus Christ” will instruct his brethren? By oral teaching, NOT handing them a Bible which wasn’t put together until at least 300 years later. The word is thus oral, not written as you purport.

2Tim 3:14-17 But as for you, continue in the things which you have learned and been assured of, knowing from whom you have learned them, and that from childhood you have known the Holy Scriptures, which are able to make you wise for salvation through faith which is in Christ Jesus. All Scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness, that the man of God may be complete, thoroughly equipped for every good work.

**I knew this would come up eventually, it ALWAYS comes to this. This verse states that all Scripture is inspired by God, so what? Many other works claim inspiration, why aren’t they Scripture? Just because something claims inspirations does not mean that it is. You have absolutely no solid reasoning to back up your belief in the inspiration of the Bible, none. Even if this verse did prove that Scripture is the word of God (which is different than sola scriptura), you cannot equate it with Christ because Christ is God’s spoken Word, not written.

A question for you BibleAnswer, why exactly do you believe the Bible is the inspired word of God? Because of 2 Timothy 3:16?**

 

[BibleAnswer]

=zach dunn

I knew this would come up eventually, it ALWAYS comes to this. This verse states that all Scripture is inspired by God, so what? Many other works claim inspiration, why aren’t they Scripture? Just because something claims inspirations does not mean that it is. You have absolutely no solid reasoning to back up your belief in the inspiration of the Bible, none. Even if this verse did prove that Scripture is the word of God (which is different than sola scriptura), you cannot equate it with Christ because Christ is God’s spoken Word, not written.

A question for you BibleAnswer, why exactly do you believe the Bible is the inspired word of God? Because of 2 Timothy 3:16?

Hey good morning,

Your missing a very important point and you dont recognise metephores. Precepts is another word for scripture, law ,covenant, precept, and scripture is all the same thing, look in a thesauraus. And its all the same exact truth.

Its all the word of God. and it does not change, and it is forever. That is exactly what God is, that is exactly what Christ is, that is exactly what His word is,

You are trying to tell me that I have absolutely no reason to believe the bible is the word of God, when i just provided many proofs. You are being too literal and not following the biblical rule of Christ spoke in parables. Or even a very basic rule like recognizing metephorhs, such as understanding that precepts is the same as holy scripture. And that the the word of God spoken by Jeremiah, was not orally passed down for our edification, it was written down.

The word of God comes to prophets, in dreams, visions and visitations, the exception would be when God literally wrote the ten commandments on the stone tablets with His finger.

Ex 24:12 Then the LORD said to Moses, “Come up to Me on the mountain and be there; and I will give you tablets of stone, and the law and commandments which I have written, that you may teach them.”
Ex 31:18 And when He had made an end of speaking with him on Mount Sinai, He gave Moses two tablets of the Testimony, tablets of stone, written with the finger of God.
Ex 32:15 And Moses turned and went down from the mountain, and the two tablets of the Testimony were in his hand. The tablets were written on both sides; on the one side and on the other they were written.
Ex 32:16 Now the tablets were the work of God, and the writing was the writing of God engraved on the tablets.

However God is going to communicate to the prophet at the time by some some verbal or visual means of communication.

then later it was written,

The bible is for all generations and all peoples in all times. A written word is the most logical way to keep an accurate account. However the word is the word.

spiritual language is spiritual language, read between the lines

 

[tobinatorstark]

So Bible Answer,

Do you are do you not worship the Bible??? You believe that Jesus is God and Jesus is the Bible. Do you worship the Bible?? Yes or No

 

[BibleAnswer]

Wow, ok friends, let me clarify,

The word of God is the bible,

The word of God is Christ.

They are the same word.

In this sense they are one and the same.

Meaning there is only one Truth, One way, and One Salvation. And it is through Gods word

Which we find in the bible

and we find in Christ.

I do not ‘worship’ the bible, i study the bible and communicate with God through His word, and I can know that it is the same truth, the same truth, as has been established from everlasting to everlasting

 

[zach_dunn]

Hey good morning,

Your missing a very important point and you dont recognise metephores. Precepts is another word for scripture, law ,covenant, precept, and scripture is all the same thing, look in a thesauraus. And its all the same exact truth.

**Good evening to you,

Your first premise is false. Go here please, and here, and here, and here. As you can plainly see, law, covenant, scripture, and precept are not synonyms for each other. I guess this point really comes down to whether or not you trust this thesaurus, I do.**

Its all the word of God. and it does not change, and it is forever. That is exactly what God is, that is exactly what Christ is, that is exactly what His word is,

The Bible indicates that God’s word is spoken, you have not provided sufficient evidence to prove your point.

You are trying to tell me that I have absolutely no reason to believe the bible is the word of God, when i just provided many proofs.

No, you didn’t. You gave very week evidence. And if 2 Tim 3:16 proves that Scripture is God’s word, it still does not prove that the Scriptures are actually inspired. You never gave any reason for your belief in the fact that the Bible is inspired. Why do you believe it?

You are being too literal and not following the biblical rule of Christ spoke in parables. Or even a very basic rule like recognizing metephorhs, such as understanding that precepts is the same as holy scripture.

I’ve shown you that the two are not the same, where does the Bible make this metaphor you speak of?

And that the the word of God spoken by Jeremiah, was not orally passed down for our edification, it was written down.

It would have had to be passed down orally. There was no way to mass produce the Scriptures until the 1400s, there were lots of Jews and not enough copies of Scripture to go around, how were the Jews that didn’t have the Scriptures to know Gods word? Through oral teaching.

The word of God comes to prophets, in dreams, visions and visitations, the exception would be when God literally wrote the ten commandments on the stone tablets with His finger.

Ex 24:12 Then the LORD said to Moses, “Come up to Me on the mountain and be there; and I will give you tablets of stone, and the law and commandments which I have written, that you may teach them.”
Ex 31:18 And when He had made an end of speaking with him on Mount Sinai, He gave Moses two tablets of the Testimony, tablets of stone, written with the finger of God.
Ex 32:15 And Moses turned and went down from the mountain, and the two tablets of the Testimony were in his hand. The tablets were written on both sides; on the one side and on the other they were written.
Ex 32:16 Now the tablets were the work of God, and the writing was the writing of God engraved on the tablets.

Notice how the tablets are called the “writing of God,” this is because a word is spoken, it’s as simple as that. Christ the Word was spoken by God, not written. Jesus spoke the word of God. If only Scripture was the word of God, it would seem odd that Jesus didn’t write a single thing, that’s because He didn’t have to, because paper and ink withers away, but our voices will never cease.

However God is going to communicate to the prophet at the time by some some verbal or visual means of communication.

then later it was written,

The bible is for all generations and all peoples in all times. A written word is the most logical way to keep an accurate account. However the word is the word.

spiritual language is spiritual language, read between the lines

That’s why there are so many (so-called, I know they aren’t real) “Bible contradictions” right? There are four different biographies of Jesus’ life, none of them exaclty the same, and some of them recounting the same event a little differently. Tradition is the most reliable way to maintain God’s word.

 

[zach_dunn]

Wow, ok friends, let me clarify,

The word of God is the bible,

The word of God is Christ.

They are the same word.

In this sense they are one and the same.

Meaning there is only one Truth, One way, and One Salvation. And it is through Gods word

Which we find in the bible

and we find in Christ.

I do not ‘worship’ the bible, i study the bible and communicate with God through His word, and I can know that it is the same truth, the same truth, as has been established from everlasting to everlasting

So you’re saying it is the Bible that saves you?

 

[Ignatius]

Does the Bible define itself?

A friend of mine says it does,

No, it doesn’t even give a list of which books are in the Bible. The Gospels don’t tell who wrote them. How do you suppose that we know which books belong in the Bible and who wrote the four Gospels.