Does the church say condoms don’t help with not spreading STD’s

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I was watching a debate and I may have misunderstood but I thought someone said something similar to “condoms dont work with not spreading STD’s”. Of course condoms are bad but is it true that the church says that the use of condoms makes no difference with catching STD’s?
 
Condoms do not 100% guarantee that an STD will be spread, but they indisputably mitigate the risk. By a lot.
 
Maximilian75 said:
I don’t know what the Church says, but
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use of condoms makes no difference with catching STD’s
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is true.

STD’s are spread in the region from the bellybutton to the mid-thigh.
Condoms do not cover that whole region.

The only way to never get an STD, 100%, is abstinence.
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What?

Uhm no, that’s not accurate. Please do some research.

Condoms DO indeed work against STDs. What you’re saying is false.
 
Condoms are closer to Russian roulette, Feel lucky punk? (Clint Esstwood).
 
michael-kaw said:
I was watching a debate and I may have misunderstood but I thought someone said something similar to “condoms dont work with not spreading STD’s”. Of course condoms are bad but is it true that the church says that the use of condoms makes no difference with catching STD’s?
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Purely in terms of function, condoms obviously greatly reduce the chance of contracting an STD during sexual intercourse. But that isn’t really what is being talked about.

The Church does definitively teach that the use of condoms as a contraceptive are gravely immoral for reasons that are outside the scope of the question.

What is being discussed is a sociological question and not something the Church will answer in a 100% definitive fashion. Popes have spoken their mind on the issue before and provided advice from their position of moral authority to the faithful.

There are many Catholics who argue that the distribution of condoms does not - in the grand/long-term picture - help with the spread of STDs, since they encourage and solidify a promiscuous lifestyle within the culture where mistakes inevitability happen and people become lazy, especially among teenagers and young adults.

This is exclusive to all the other societal effects of a promiscuous/non-committal culture apart from the question of STDs.

Peace.
 
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is it true that the church says that the use of condoms makes no difference with catching STD’s?
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That’s really not a religious, philosophical or ethical question.

The church really doesn’t have competency to answer this question.
 
No, the Church does not say. Pope Francis, in fact validates the use of condoms to prevent STD when he recommended those in the profession to use condoms to prevent STD. Of course, that doesn’t mean Catholic allows its usage.
 
Condoms don’t work against EVERY STI. For example, they may have limited efficacy against HPV and herpes because the warts and lesions, respectively, may occur in areas the condom doesn’t cover.
 
I’m an RN. Have been for quite a long time. Having seen herpes and HPV lesions on patients I’m more than aware of what you’re saying.

Who said condoms protect against every one of them? It certainly wasn’t me. Here’s what I said.
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Condoms DO indeed work against STDs. What you’re saying is false.
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Where did I say they protect against all of them? Never said that.

The post I quoted was categorically false. This is what THAT one said.

STD’s are spread in the region from the bellybutton to the mid-thigh. (No, and nowhere will you discover that in any medical text).

as well as saying that it’s true that the use of condoms makes no difference with catching STDs.

Also a massively false statement.

What you’re asserting I said, I didn’t say - because I wouldn’t, because I have medical knowledge and education that tells me they’re not 100% effective.

But they are certainly effective against spreading them. Not one soul here has said they’re 100% effective against all of them all the time.
 
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No, the Church does not say. Pope Francis, in fact validates the use of condoms to prevent STD when he recommended those in the profession to use condoms to prevent STD. Of course, that doesn’t mean Catholic allows its usage.
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When did the pope do that? I recall Pope Benedict XVI making a remark about condoms and those involved in prostitution, but it was not intended to condone their use as morally permissible even in those situations, as was clarified by a statement from the CDF afterwards (“that anyone could deduce from the words of Benedict XVI that it is somehow legitimate, in certain situations […] to use condoms to avoid an unwanted pregnancy is […] in no way justified either by his words or in his thought”). Either way though as you say, the Church’s stance remains that it is not permitted to use condoms.

But yeah OP, this isn’t something the Church really has something to say about. It seems to me that the person could have meant that they are not effective at preventing infection without fail. Of course either way this is not why condom use is immoral.
 
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You are 14. Ask your parents.

This type of post from a child, being answered by adults is entirely inappropriate
 
He said it regarding the spread of HIV in Africa a couple of years back. The media of course made a big deal of it and it became a bit controversial then.
 
TK421 hit the nail on the head. Condoms reduce the chance of becoming infected with an STD, although, in the long run condoms have helped perpetuate the hookup culture, which has lead to an increase in STD’s
 
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Medically speaking, a condom only 80% protects from pregnancy. I’d imagine the same for STDS. There was s still an area where body fluids connect. There are anatomical and physiological reasons.
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For the one accepting of sin, that question becomes solely medical.
 
My wife…(retired nurse) worked in the county which was the Chlamydia capital of the USA…she said they used to give out condoms by the bucket load…didn’t do any good because people still didn’t use them…trying to educate them didn’t seem to work…many of them (both men and women) had multiple upon multiple sexual partners…some of the women didn’t even know who the father of their child…(or children) was…the infant mortality was high because pregnant women didn’t keep their appointments…this county also has a high percentage of a certain ethnic minority…poverty and culture are two main problems but you can’t address that fact because of political correctness and you’d probably be branded as a racist…so nothing really changes.
 
Depends on the STD. If you’re talking genital warts then, no, they don’t do squat because the potential transmittal area includes places not covered by a condom.
 
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