Does the educational system decreed in the Fourth Lateran Council still exist?

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Canon 11 of the Fourth Council of the Lateran (sourcebooks.fordham.edu/basis/lateran4.asp), confirmed a decree of the Third Lateran Council that:
…in every cathedral church a suitable benefice be assigned to a master who shall instruct gratis the clerics of that church and other poor students…
Canon 11 further decreed, above and beyond the decrees of the Third Lateran Council, that
In addition to a master, let the metropolitan church have also a theologian, who shall instruct the priests and others in the Sacred Scriptures and in those things especially that pertain to the cura animarum. To each master let there be assigned by the chapter the revenue of one benefice, and to the theologian let as much be given by the metropolitan…
Does the educational system described in Canon 11 still exist? I seem to recall reading at some point that the currently existing Catholic school and university system is the modern manifestation of this canon, however that does not seem to be right as those schools are not free and the canon here seems to be prescribing a system of free education. Was this canon abrogated and the system of free schools abolished? Do these free schools still exist in dark crypts of old cathedrals, monitored by ancient sages in dusty robes wondering why hardly no one is interested in the free education anymore?
 
[SUMMARY] In every cathedral church and other churches also that have sufficient means, a master is to be appointed to instruct gratis the clerics and poor students. The metropolitan church ought to have a theologian who shall teach the clergy whatever pertains to the cura animarum (i.e. care of souls).
[Text.] Since there are some who, on account of the lack of necessary means, are unable to acquire an education or to meet opportunities for perfecting themselves, the Third Lateran Council in a salutary decree provided that in every cathedral church a suitable benefice be assigned to a master who shall instruct gratis the clerics of that church and other poor students, by means of which benefice the material needs of the master might be relieved and to the students a way opened to knowledge. But, since in many churches this is not observed, we, confirming the aforesaid decree, add that, not only in every cathedral church but also in other churches where means are sufficient, a competent master be appointed by the prelate with his chapter, or elected by the greater and more discerning part of the chapter, who shall instruct gratis and to the best of his ability the clerics of those and other churches in the art of grammar and in other branches of knowledge. In addition to a master, let the metropolitan church have also a theologian, who shall instruct the priests and others in the Sacred Scriptures and in those things especially that pertain to the cura animarum. To each master let there be assigned by the chapter the revenue of one benefice, and to the theologian let as much be given by the metropolitan; not that they thereby become canons, but they shall enjoy the revenue only so long as they hold the office of instructor. If the metropolitan church cannot support two masters, then it shall provide for the theologian in the aforesaid manner, but for the one teaching grammar, let it see to it that a sufficiency is provided by another church of its city or diocese.
May be the forerunner of modern Catholic colleges and university. Obviously, a single teacher would have only a very limited number of students.
 
Thanks, that is the text of the canon (or at least an English speaking version of it), but I was asking about the educational system being described. What became of it? Can you walk into a cathedral church, identify yourself as a “poor student”, and be directed to the master to enroll in his coursework in the art of grammar and other branches of knowledge free of charge, or is this no longer possible? Are there specific maximum income or asset requirements to be considered a “poor student”? When the canon speaks of theological education for “priests and others”, does “others” mean literally anyone who is not a priest, or only some people who are deemed worthy of learning about the Sacred Scriptures and things pertaining to the cura animarum (and how is that determined)? If these things are no longer possible, when were these programs abolished?
 
I think that it safe to say that the Lateran system does not still exist. A diocese today has a seminary, a more developed college, for the education of priests.
 
May be the forerunner of modern Catholic colleges and university. Obviously, a single teacher would have only a very limited number of students.
Perhaps, but there are two things. First, as I mentioned before, Catholic colleges and universities are not free, and the canon decrees a system of free education. Two, having a single teacher might not be as serious a problem as it seems if the programs that exist under this canon are not what we normally consider typical of university study - perhaps the programs are very short term (e.g. maybe “the art of grammar and in other branches of knowledge” just means enough basic literacy, math, and science to pass a high school equivalency exam and then the Master kicks you back onto the street and No More Free Classes for You), perhaps the courses are primarily self-study with only occasional contact with the Master or Theologian (and thus one instructor could handle hundreds or thousands of students if those students only need to talk to the instructor once every six months), or perhaps enrollment is self-limiting because the education is considered to be low quality or of low prestige and most people would just rather take out loans and Go To College already rather than bothering with medieval Cathedral Masters and Theologians and sitting in crowded classes covering irrelevant topics that do not lead to meaningful opportunities anymore, even if the classes are gratis.
 
Not only are modern Catholic schools in the US “not free”, many if not most of them are straight up unattainable for even many financially secure families, much less the poor.
 
Not only are modern Catholic schools in the US “not free”, many if not most of them are straight up unattainable for even many financially secure families, much less the poor.
Exactly, that’s one of the big points I was trying to make earlier. Not only are many modern Catholic schools highly expensive, they often have onerous admissions requirements that “poor students” would hardly ever be expected to meet.

Session 5 of the Council of Trent (ewtn.com/library/COUNCILS/TRENT5.HTM) provides in Chapter 1:
…that in those churches in which there exists a prebend or a benefice with an obligation attached, or other income by whatever name it may be known, set aside for instructors in sacred theology, the bishops, archbishops, primates, and other ecclesiastical superiors of those localities compel, even by a reduction of their revenues, those who hold such prebend, benefice or income, to expound and interpret the Holy Scriptures, either personally if they are competent, otherwise by a competent substitute to be chosen by the bishops, archbishops, primates, or other superiors of those places.
So, not only were churches supposed to set aside funding for schools, they were actually expected to cut funding to other programs in order to keep the schools operating! With regards to churches unable to afford such advanced pedagogical arrangements, it provides that:
Churches whose annual revenues are scanty and where the number of clergy and people is so small that instruction in theology cannot be conveniently had therein, may have at least a master, to be chosen by the bishop with the advice of the chapter, to teach grammar gratuitously to clerics and other poor students,[27] so that afterwards they may with the help of God pass on to the study of Holy Scripture. For this purpose let the revenues of some simple benefice be assigned to that master of grammar,[28] which he shall receive so long as he is engaged in teaching
Since the Council of Trent was in the 16th century, well past the founding of the modern university system with bachelor’s degrees, master’s degrees, etc., it seems that universities are also not what are being spoken of here.

The Tridentine decree even specifies a procedure for selecting teachers for these free schools, and nowhere in that procedure is anything mentioned about selecting the teachers from among graduates of Catholic high schools or universities (interesting omission?), so the relationship, if any, between these schools and modern-day Catholic schools and universities remains unclear even when it could have easily been mentioned, for example by saying that free school instructors must either have graduated from a Catholic university or from a local church-based Lateran-Tridentine free school.

Am I completely misunderstanding the purpose of these decrees? Is “poor students” actually a code word for “rich children whose parents can afford to send them to the best Catholic schools, but they are poor in spirit” and there never were any literally free schools that did not charge money? If they really did exist as written, then presumably they existed at least until the time of the Council of Trent and possibly slightly beyond that - so could I call a Catholic parish that actually dates back to the 14th century (in somewhere like, say, Bavaria or Italy that has been heavily Catholic for ages and where there are actually churches that old) and ask them in what year the last Lateran-Tridentine free school sessions were held, and if they are still being held, how to register for classes/enroll?

For what it’s worth, I am very interested in the history of education and especially archaic, obsolete, or alternative “pathways”, so detailed trivia about these canons or the history of Catholic education is very welcome!
 
Thanks, that is the text of the canon (or at least an English speaking version of it), but I was asking about the educational system being described. What became of it? Can you walk into a cathedral church, identify yourself as a “poor student”, and be directed to the master to enroll in his coursework in the art of grammar and other branches of knowledge free of charge, or is this no longer possible? Are there specific maximum income or asset requirements to be considered a “poor student”? When the canon speaks of theological education for “priests and others”, does “others” mean literally anyone who is not a priest, or only some people who are deemed worthy of learning about the Sacred Scriptures and things pertaining to the cura animarum (and how is that determined)? If these things are no longer possible, when were these programs abolished?
They were not abolished, they simply evolved over time.

We still have parish schools (a cathedral is still a parish); both grammar and high schools, and sometimes these have been modified to be administered on the diocese level. They do have financial assistance for poor students, although that’s going to vary in the specifics from one to the other.

For the most part seminary formation has replaced the clerical education about which the Council spoke. At the same time, though, every diocese does have programs of ongoing education for all priests (some mandatory, some optional).

Of course, the Catholic colleges of today provide much of that education.

Our system of educating people has simply evolved over time. The principles established by the Council are still being followed.
 
Not only are modern Catholic schools in the US “not free”, many if not most of them are straight up unattainable for even many financially secure families, much less the poor.
I think that the Archdiocese of New York innercityscholarshipfund.org/beastudentsfriend.cfm would have a very different perspective.

The Church does everything possible to make education available to children. There’s only so much that can be done, given the high cost of education today.
 
Does the educational system described in Canon 11 still exist?
No
Was this canon abrogated
Yes the canons have been abrogated by newer codes of law.

Here are the current canons on the formation of clerics:

vatican.va/archive/ENG1104/__PW.HTM
and the system of free schools abolished?
Schools for the training of clerics have evolved, as have other types of schools over the last 800 years.
Do these free schools still exist in dark crypts of old cathedrals, monitored by ancient sages in dusty robes wondering why hardly no one is interested in the free education anymore?
Do you really not know the answer to that?
 
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