Does the Evangelical Church have something similar to the Eucharist?

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There is no large Protestant denomination that takes this stand. However, some very conservative evangelicals not only oppose oral contraceptives, but any contraception at all–including NFP!
Virtue is in the golden mean. It’s the habituation of a due good.

When I was growing up Catholic families with 10-12 kids were not unheard of.

There is a particular Protestant family in the news from time to time because they have 19 kids. I get the impression that they aren’t just not using contraception, but that they’re deliberately trying for a large head count.
 
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"I**'ll** intercommune with any Trinitarian Christians who will intercommune with me."—Edwin

By your statement, you seem willing to intercommune with most anyone. (I believe that it is stretching the definition of Christian to apply it to those who do not believe in the Trinity). I think I would have to say that a belief in the seven Sacraments of the Church would be the minimum for me. And I respect the closed Communion of the Orthodox Church as it would offend for me as a Catholic to receive.
 
There is no large Protestant denomination that takes this stand. However, some very conservative evangelicals not only oppose oral contraceptives, but any contraception at all–including NFP!
Thank you for saying this.

In the last evangelical Protestant church that we were part of, the senior pastor and his wife had ten children (two were deceased-RIP), and the youth pastor and his wife had seven children. The “head layperson” (the one with the most money and power in the church) and his beautiful wife had eight children. And many of the laypeople had 4-6 children and were open to more.

Many times in sermons, we heard the senior pastor admonish the congregation to be open to life and add more children to their family.

I think that Catholics have to understand that my generation, the late baby boomers (born in 1957 or later) grew up learning that the Pill and other artificial birth control methods are perfectly acceptable, and no one taught us about natural methods of spacing children.

Also, we grew up in the time of “women’s lib” and the emerging extreme feminist movement. Even those of us who were docile and compliant to the teachings of our churches and the Bible were influenced by the women’s movement which urged us to put our careers and personal lives ahead of having large families. Just this month in Good Housekeeping, Betty Friedan’s historic article was reprinted–this article did tremendous damage, IMO, because it gave women the idea that they could dump their children into daycares and head off to work just to “fulfil themselves.”

Finally, there was the rising rate of divorces, which sobered many women and made us work hard to be able to take care of ourselves just in case we became one of the 50% of women who ended up divorced. Many women realized that it’s harder to be a single parent with many children than it is with 1.5 children, so they made sure to contracept for their financial security.

At any rate, it was a rare evangelical Christian girl/woman who realized what was happening and resisted the pull of these feminist teachings and the fear of divorce leaving them destitute. Not knowing the traditional teachings of the Church was the final nail.

I think that most people in the Protestant churches, especially the evangelical Protestant churches, literally “forgot” about God’s teachings on contraception. Remember, there is no pope or magisterium in the evangelical churches. Many of the evangelical churches are very anti-Catholic and actually teach avoidance of anything Catholic, urging their members to avoid “contamination” by a “pagan, woman-worshipping Babylonian mystery cult.” Evangelical churches, at least until recently, have completely isolated themselves from the teachings of other churches, and only in recent years, with the advent of the internet, have evangelical Christians begun to learn about the traditions and history of Christianity.

It’s interesting to me that the emerging church that contarini mentioned started up when the internet use became common. I don’t think it’s a coincidence. I predict that as more and more evangelical Christians begin to find sites like Catholic Answers, we will see more and more evangelicals convert to Catholicism.

Criticize them if you like, but one thing that most evangelicals have in common is a detailed knowledge of the Scriptures–and the Scriptures clearly point to the Catholic Church as the Church that Jesus Christ founded. One of the main reasons why I converted to Catholicism is that it was in complete, 100% agreement with the Bible–the first church I had ever attended that WAS in complete agreement with the Bible! When I first started attending Mass and listening to Catholic priests, I was so excited when I found references to Biblical passages in Old and New Testaments, and finally understood these passages!

Teachings about contraception are one of the discoveries of these evangelical Christians exploring the traditions of Christianity. I deplore that my husband and I missed out on this. We were taught from childhood that artificial birth control is perfectly acceptable, and that’s how we went through our fertile years. It was only when we started learning about the Catholic church when we were 47 years old that we realized that we had learned wrongly all those years. By then it was too late and our fertility was gone.
 
Hi Edwin,

I like your articles. They are always full of knowledge and seem to be very well researched. 🙂
Thank you for correcting my post. I wrote what I knew. - Now I am some minutes cleverer! 😉
The distinctive features of Anglicanism (chiefly the Prayer Book) were formed not under Henry but under Edward and Elizabeth. And in fact the Anglicanism that was formed at this time was more Reformed than Lutheran. (Henry’s Anglicanism wasn’t Lutheran either.) By the turn of the seventeenth century Anglicans were often claiming to be in between the Lutherans and the Reformed. By the end of the seventeenth-century the more High-Church Anglicans had distanced themselves from Protestantism as a whole. But if you look at the 39 Articles and the Elizabethan version of the BCP, Anglicanism appears to be a moderate version of the Reformed tradition.
So you could say that the Scottish Presbyterian Church and the Anglican Church are not that different in their theology. - If you say that they are both Reformed Churches.
But why then do they not like themselves so to speak?
They are both Reformed Churches, aren’t they?
Baptists in English-speaking countries are not the same as Anabaptists (in German people have long used the term “Taufer” to mean “Anabaptists,” so it’s confusing), and derive primarily from English Puritanism–the radically Reformed wing of English Protestantism.
Well, maybe they are not the same (because the Anabaptists are older; 16th century, right?) but as far as I got to know they are nearly identical in theology. I think the main difference is that most Anabaptist Communities live in communities (like the Hutterites in Bruderhöfe).
They both believe that one has to give their lifes to Jesus and they believe in the credo-baptism.
No, that is not true of the Reformed as a whole. Calvin himself did not teach this–he believed that the heavenly Body and Blood of Christ are truly received in the Eucharist by believers, but he didn’t think that they are locally present in the bread and wine.
So also the Reformed Churches (I am thinking mainly when using this term of the Evangelical Church in Switzerland) are also not united in their doctrine?
Methodists are basically the same as the Reformed in their sacramental theology. The Wesleys were very close to Calvin, but perhaps a bit more Catholic–or at least less anti-Catholic and thus more willing to use the language of Eucharistic sacrifice. But just as with the Reformed, the Methodist tradition has historically contained a lot of Zwinglians who see the sacraments as purely symbolic.
Interesting. I have read that in Switzerland the Reformed Evangelical Church of Switzerland and Methodist Church belong together. They have joined.
Zwingli. Bucer tried to bring the two sides together, and Calvin basically followed Bucer in terms of sacramental theology. Bucer signed an agreement with the Lutherans in 1536, and Calvin seems to have supported it, although he worried that Bucer gave too much ground to the Lutherans. Later Lutherans went after Bucer and Calvin and their followers, believing them to be deceitful in their claim to believe in the Real Presence (one confessional Lutheran pastor in Germany said to me, “Bucer hat gelogen”). Calvin signed an agreement with Bullinger, Zwingli’s successor (who nonetheless had a somewhat more moderate position than Zwingli). And thus the “Reformed” tradition was born, in contrast to the Lutherans. . . .
Thank you for this (name removed by moderator)ut. Very informative. 🙂

So you are Episcopolean. Which big branch of the reformed or evangelical Churches does this Church belong to? Because before I have came to this forum, I didn’t know that this Church even exists.
I have heared that the blessing of gay couples is allowed and praciticed in Episcopolean Churches. What do think of that? Doesn’t that violate the commandment in Lev 20:13:?

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13 If there is a man who lies with a male as those who lie with a woman, both of them have committed a detestable act; …]

In Christ,
Esdra
 
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