Does the Humane Society operate immorally?

[melensdad]

The HUMANE SOCIETY OF THE UNITED STATES, also known as the HSUS, is a national organization that supports animal rights.

Many people confuse the HSUS with the local chapter of the Humane Society in their community.

• The HSUS has no affiliation with local Humane Societies.
• The HSUS does not, and has never, operated an animal shelter.
• From what I have recently found, the HSUS is actually a “radical animal rights” group that pushes an extreme agenda.

So with that said, I ask: **Can an organization be good/moral, but gather its support by deception? **

 

[tamarac]

Yes, it is safe to say that the Humane Society of the United States does operate immorally. Many people donate to HSUS believing that they are an organization that directly helps local animal shelters rescue and adopt out pets. Nothing could be further from the truth. Despite their deceptive name, they run no humane shelters save the Black Beauty Ranch which has not accepted animals for years. They have over $200 million in assets yet charge $10,000 to “help” animal shelters in need of guidance. Any shelter which is able to afford the price of their “help” will be instructed in the antiquated Asilomar Accords method of shelter management. This protocol calls for killing in favor of adoption.

Nearly all donations go to lobbying efforts to pass legislation to restrict animal ownership and use. The head of the farm animal division of HSUS is J.P. Goodwin, an international terrorist widely know for his bombings and arson.

The president of the Humane Society of the United States, Wayne Pacelle, is famous for the following quote: “We have no ethical obligation to preserve the different breeds of livestock produced through selective breeding. …One generation and out. We have no problems with the extinction of domestic animals. They are creations of human selective breeding”
(Animal People, May, 1993)

The Humane Society of the United States is an animal rights organization. This is not to be confused with animal welfare which is concerned for the humane treatment of all animals. Animal Rights groups are based upon an ideology that Earth must be returned to it’s original, pristine state. Free from human contamination of any kind. Animal rights specifically calls for the extinction of all domestic species and believes that man is equal to animals. Not above them.

Part of their agenda is to eradicate Judeo- Christianity and force people to worship GAIA (mother earth). Here are some more famous animal rights quotes:
“Christianity is our foe. If animal rights is to succeed, we must destroy the Judeo-Christian religious tradition.” [The Deweese Report, November 1998]

“Killing a defective infant is not morally equivalent to killing a person, Sometimes it is not wrong at all.”
Torturing a human being is almost always wrong, but it is not absolutely wrong." --Peter Singer, as quoted in Josephine Donovan, “Animal Rights and Feminist Theory,” Signs: Journal of Women in Culture and Society, Winter 1990, p. 357.

"Humans are different. were not superior. There are no clear distinctions between us and animals. " in a 1990 interview with for HSUS president Dr. M. Fox

“The life of an ant and the life of my child should be granted equal consideration” Dr Fox “inhumane society” Fox publications

Hitler was an animal rights advocate. These people are no less dangerous. Their earth based religion is Wiccan in nature and the master they serve is not to be confused with our God.

Information is power. If you question the information I have presented here, please independently research animal rights on your own. While you are at it, you may wish to look up Peter Singer, father of animal rights movement, biocentrism, Agenda 21, and the radical eco green movement. Please let everyone you know the dangers that these animal rights groups pose to our people. Or we may very well be destined to repeat history that was demonstrated in Nazi Germany.

Please feel free to visit www.wethepeopleusa.us We are a group dedicated to protecting animal owner constitutional rights and religious freedom rights from the ever encroaching animal rights movement.

Sincerely, Tamara

 

[melensdad]

Hi Tamara, welcome to Catholic Answers Forums. I agree with you that many in the Animal Rights movement are non-Christian or Anti-Christian, especially the more radical members.

I was brought to this subject by a topic I started regarding feral cats and did all sorts of research. Much of my research brought me to information that exposed the Humane Society as an Animal Rights EXTREMIST organization.

Here is a link to a book I now plan on reading: Hijacking of the Humane Movement that exposes the Humane Society.

Book Description
A graphic portrayal of the tactics and terror of the various front organizations involved in the Animal Rights movement. For those not daily involved with animals through professional, scientific, sporting, livestock, or other pursuits, the tactics used by these radicals to push their views and raise money are no longer dismissed lightly. These tactics include fire-bombing, burglary and attempted murder. They include the covert infiltration of organizations with differing views-redirecting their agendas and treasuries, corporate raider style, in the process. Written by two of the most concerned people, the authors are noted authorities in the ranks of the nation’s dog fanciers.

http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/51Y3S40NT7L.AA240.jpg

But there seems to be a wealth of corroborating evidence to be found all over the internet. It seems that many people are duped into believing that the HSUS is the national organization for their local animal shelter. It also appears that the HSUS profits from that misunderstanding and does everything it can to perpetuate the lie so it can gather money.

I found this interesting: corn-utopia.com/Corn%20Utopia%20on%20the%20Web/Photo%20&%20Image%20Stockpile%20-%20CornUtopia/Humane%20Society%20-%20hidden%20enemy

Since 1954, the HSUS has grown into a huge bureaucratic organization with 200+ employees and a $38+ million dollar budget. Yet not one dollar of that money is used to help the many ‘Humane Society’ shelters in cities across America.

The HSUS got fat and prosperous capitalizing on our concern for the plight of homeless animals by bombarding us with tear-jerking fundraising campaigns. Its assets naturally attracted humaniac extremist groups like PETA that wished to tap into the war chest of funds. Radical animal rights proponents thoroughly infiltrated the HSUS and instilled their idealistic views as representing the whole organization’s doctrine. Then a subtle ‘coup’ occurred in 1973, warranted by the changing leadership because “the costs of running a local animal control operation [was] drawing off funds needed elsewhere”. (< That quote is from the HSUS’ own website!) They literally declared that supporting the small Humane Society shelters across the U.S. was ‘stealing’ the money needed to pursue their own new humaniac agendas.

The HSUS split away completely, dropping financial support of all the smaller state ‘Humane Society’ groups. But they did it quietly to leave everyone with the logical impression they were now just the national headquarters coordinating all ‘their local chapters’. They have purposely done nothing to erase that illusion of ‘umbrella organization’ to insure receiving all the same donation monies you thought were still supporting your home town animal shelters. The HSUS’s coffers swelled because they didn’t have to share the wealth anymore. It was a pretty sneaky and wildly successful move on their part!

 

[etbmfa]

In addition to Patti and Rod Strand’s excellent book, you might want to check out Daniel T. Oliver’s book available through Amazon.com for only $5 and the website for the National Animal Interest Alliance as well - www.naiaonline.org

 

[tamarac]

Hello melensdad,

Thank you so much for your response. Patti Strand’s book “The Hijacking of the Humane Movement: Animal Extremism” is an excellent read. We have worked closely with Patti Strand in the past when our group was actively fighting CA AB1634- “The Pet Extinction Act”. This bill called for the mandatory sterilization of every single cat and dog within the state of California by the age of four months. Intact permits are to be made available for show dogs and working dogs but no puppy or kitten would be able to qualify them. Only currently working and showing adult dogs. Furthermore, breeders were expected to give their puppies away and could not sell them. This is a horrible bill and we have defeated it to the point that it has been shelved until 2008. At this time, they will bring it back for reconsideration.

During my efforts to help my fellow pet owners as well as dog and cat breeders defeat this horrible PETA bill, I got a front row seat and witnessed these AR activists lie to congress, purposely falsify data, terrify opponents by having surprise raids conducted by animal control officers to seize all pets, and furthermore, they personally attacked me by altering my artwork digitally in a derisive and public way. They also were responsible for putting up terrible websites about me. I learned that these people will do anything, and I do mean anything, to further their agenda which ultimately is domestic animal extinction and human depopulation to return earth to a pristine state. They have no moral center at all. None. Any tactic that is evil is completely acceptable to them.

Since I have joined folks who are in a continuous battle to protect animal owner constitutional rights against the legislative efforts of animal rights organizations such as the Humane Society of the United States and PETA, I have learned some terrible truths about their ultimate objectives for humanity.

They consider domestic animals artificial creations of mankind which makes them unnatural. Since they are unnatural, they must be eliminated. Furthermore, they seek to depopulate the earth of up to 80% of it’s current human population. Remaining people will not be allowed to worship Christ or God but must worship GAIA instead while living a peasant lifestyle in planned settlements. We found out that members of these groups belong to the satanic cult “The Process”. Adolf Hitler, Charles Manson, and Mussolini to name a few also belong/belonged to this satanic cult.

The Animal Rights movement is an arm of the larger eco green movement. The United Nations are controlled by members of this movement and they are seeking to gain control of the United States via implementation of Agenda 21 and various treaties such as L.O.S.T. (Law of the Sea Treaty) currently under consideration by our congress. High ranking members of our govt. support agenda 21 and it is being implemented nation wide without any public knowledge.

PCRM is an animal rights organization made up entirely of Dr.s and scientists of various disciplines. Since they are determined to do away with Judeo Christianity, I fear we will be the ones subject to their planned depopulation scheme just as the Jewish people were under Hitler’s reign. They seem to be gaining support and power at an alarming rate and, honestly, I am afraid for our people. I know all of this must seem quite far fetched but I swear to God, this is the alarming truth. Here are some websites that provide additional information:

www.contenderministries.org/articles/UN_aaclucis.php

lewrockwell.com/orig/englund3.html

www.magic-city-news.com/Agenda_21_32/index.shtml

I feel the only way that we, as a religious group of people, can defend ourselves against this rapidly growing threat is with the power of knowledge. How can we be expected to defend ourselves against an enemy unless we are aware of it’s presence? Do you have any thoughts about how to bring these truths to a larger audience?

Warmly, Tamara

 

[melensdad]

I feel the only way that we, as a religious group of people, can defend ourselves against this rapidly growing threat is with the power of knowledge. How can we be expected to defend ourselves against an enemy unless we are aware of it’s presence? Do you have any thoughts about how to bring these truths to a larger audience?

Honestly I don’t know the answers to your questions.

I started digging around when I was searching the answer to the morality of shooting feral cats. I was surprised by some of the answers I received (on both sides of the issue) some were extreme, some uninformed, some very well thought out. But what got me was the repeated posts by people that didn’t have any basis in logic in any way, they simply opposed what I asked. My situation is no different than many rural landowners, we have an overabundance of feral cats, they have destroyed the native species. A common solution proposed simply made no sense . . . trap the cats and move them to somewhere else All that seemed to do was move the problem and kill more native animals.

Much of what I found out about the Humane Society of the US simply is shocking. It appears that they seem to be a “moderate” group, but are really extreme. Much like some of the posts in my thread about shooting the feral cats.

 

[tamarac]

Ypu might want to inquire if there is a trap, neuter, and return program in place in your area. Also referred to as TNR. This is considered the most effective and humane way to deal with wild cat colonies. Perhaps calling your local animal control will get you started as hopefully they will provide you with information of a local organization who is doing this. Wild cats do not live long- usually only 2 to 3 years in the wild. If they are not able to reproduce, the situation does resolve itself.
~Tamara

 

[melensdad]

Ypu might want to inquire if there is a trap, neuter, and return program in place in your area. Also referred to as TNR. This is considered the most effective and humane way to deal with wild cat colonies. Perhaps calling your local animal control will get you started as hopefully they will provide you with information of a local organization who is doing this. Wild cats do not live long- usually only 2 to 3 years in the wild. If they are not able to reproduce, the situation does resolve itself.
~Tamara

According to the National Geographic, which studied the issue, they can live up to 7 years after TNR. But while it might be humane to the cats, it is clearly inhumane to the native species that have be decimated. Further, Catholics are required to show good stewardship to the land as part of our faith. Releasing a non-native predator at the top of the food chain to kill the local birds and small animals is far from good stewardship. In fact from the Catholic perspective, releasing such an animal could be sinful.

Also I live way out in the country many miles from town, we have a shelter that will kill the cats if I bring them in, but the trauma the cat goes through is far greater with being stuck in a cage for 12+ hours, getting tossed (cage and all) into the trunk of a car to be driven 30+ minutes to the county seat where they will cage the cat for a day or two, then a couple people with heavy canvas aprons, face protectors, and thick leather gloves will grab the cat, hold it down, and inject it with poison.

 

[Bennie_P]

According to the National Geographic, which studied the issue, they can live up to 7 years after TNR. But while it might be humane to the cats, it is clearly inhumane to the native species that have be decimated. Further, Catholics are required to show good stewardship to the land as part of our faith. Releasing a non-native predator at the top of the food chain to kill the local birds and small animals is far from good stewardship. In fact from the Catholic perspective, releasing such an animal could be sinful.

Also I live way out in the country many miles from town, we have a shelter that will kill the cats if I bring them in, but the trauma the cat goes through is far greater with being stuck in a cage for 12+ hours, getting tossed (cage and all) into the trunk of a car to be driven 30+ minutes to the county seat where they will cage the cat for a day or two, then a couple people with heavy canvas aprons, face protectors, and thick leather gloves will grab the cat, hold it down, and inject it with poison.

Then ( by my own personal experience). in many intances they will miss the vein and the cat will jump around in convulsions and in extreme pain for many more minutes. Not as humane as it is suppose to be. The difficulty factor is high with small animals such as cats, even the tame cat is difficult to put down. I suspect this why many shelters have a no kill policy on cats. With dogs you can find the vein without difficulty. Dogs usual don’t fight and slip off while being petted and caressed.

As to the group you are speaking of, HSUS, I remember seeing a news story about them a few years back on 60 minutes or similar news program. They interviewed many people that donated to them from direct mailing campaigns, if I remember right they, HSUS, use to run some sort of annual sweepstakes, but the people interviewed were upset that they donated money after finding out the group didn’t directly care for animals at all. All the points you mention in your OP seem to be a correct assessment of the group.

Though I’m believe in ethical treatment of animals I very leary of most animal rights groups and advocate support of local run humane societies/shelters in which you can personally monitor what they actually do and how they use their money.

The majority of animal right groups are very anti-Christian and put animals’ rights at the same level, if not on a higher plane then human rights. If all the animal rights activists would also be pro-life activists, abortion would be a thing of the past.

by the way they have a word for those that discriminant against animals- “Speciesism” here this quote from the peta web site

It is on this basis that the case against racism and the case against sexism must both ultimately rest; and it is in accordance with this principle that the attitude that we may call “speciesism,” by analogy with racism, must also be condemned. Speciesism—the word is not an attractive one, but I can think of no better term—is a prejudice or attitude of bias in favor of the interests of members of one’s own species and against those of members of other species. It should be obvious that the fundamental objections to racism and sexism made by Thomas Jefferson and Sojourner Truth apply equally to speciesism. If possessing a higher degree of intelligence does not entitle one human to use another for his or her own ends, how can it entitle humans to exploit nonhumans for the same purpose?

Now when I eat a burger at Micky Ds should I wear a mask over my face so that I will not be recognized as being a blood thristy speciesist?

 

[tamarac]

According to the National Geographic, which studied the issue, they can live up to 7 years after TNR. But while it might be humane to the cats, it is clearly inhumane to the native species that have be decimated. Further, Catholics are required to show good stewardship to the land as part of our faith. Releasing a non-native predator at the top of the food chain to kill the local birds and small animals is far from good stewardship. In fact from the Catholic perspective, releasing such an animal could be sinful.

Also I live way out in the country many miles from town, we have a shelter that will kill the cats if I bring them in, but the trauma the cat goes through is far greater with being stuck in a cage for 12+ hours, getting tossed (cage and all) into the trunk of a car to be driven 30+ minutes to the county seat where they will cage the cat for a day or two, then a couple people with heavy canvas aprons, face protectors, and thick leather gloves will grab the cat, hold it down, and inject it with poison.

Hello melensdad,

It is possible that some of the wild cats could live as long as 7 years. The information I have is from the Nathan Winograd study at Stanford University. I know that wild cats can decimate wild populations of birds which can be heart breaking to watch. If you are looking for an immediate solution the only one I can suggest is to purchase some animal traps designed for humane live capture. They have some cat sized live traps at Haror Freight that are affordable in price. Proceed to place them in areas that cats use as a path and bait them with yummy smelling canned cat food. Once these cats are captured, then you can take them to a shelter to remove them. Please do try to find a no kill shelter to drop them off if at all possible. You can also try to find a local cat rescue. These rescue folks may even pick the cats up for you and they do not kill them.

I am not sure how to solve your distance to a shelter issue. I do not think that taking the cats housed within the live trap which serves as a crate some distance to a shelter would be considered cruel. They will not like this experience much but that fact does not constitue cruelty! If they are to reside in the trap for as long as twelve hours- you can provide water for them by placing the end of a water bottle through the bars and allow them to drink from it. They may choose not to drink from it but at least you have tried to provide water to them. Do not open the trap or touch them. If they are wild, they will hurt you. I hope these suggestions are helpful to you.

Warmly,

Tamara

 

[Kathrin]

Probably there are a lot of people in that organization that really do care about animals and want to do good and protect otherwise helpless creatures.
And other people may have other agendas.
Like with any organization, I would say there is no answer that is true for everyone who works for them.

Kathrin

 

[melensdad]

Probably there are a lot of people in that organization that really do care about animals and want to do good and protect otherwise helpless creatures.
And other people may have other agendas.
Like with any organization, I would say there is no answer that is true for everyone who works for them.

Kathrin

Kathrin, I think the LOCAL animal shelters have a lot of people who really care about animals working in them. But from what I can see about the national organization that goes by the name of HUMANE SOCIETY of the UNITED STATES (or HSUS for short), it is an extremist organization that uses lies to convince people to donate money. The people who donate believe they are donating to help animals, but are in fact donating to a political organization that wants to outlaw pet ownership, meat production (cattle, chicken farms, etc) hunting, medical testing using animals, etc.

 

[brianwalden]

So with that said, I ask: **Can an organization be good/moral, but gather its support by deception? **

Melensdad,

This is off topic, yet oddly related to your question.The American Diabetes Association, whose logo is in your signature, is a huge proponent of embryonic stem cell research. They don’t often advertise this and when they do it is propagandized to downplay the fact that it murders embryonic humans and to try to show embryonic stem cell research as the only type of research with potential for a cure. Because of the lack of federal funding for embryonic stem cell research, the ADA is one of the major funders of diabetes research on embryonic stem cells. Most people don’t realize that for all the good the ADA does it is tainted with unconscionable evil.

 

[melensdad]

Melensdad,

This is off topic, yet oddly related to your question.The American Diabetes Association, whose logo is in your signature, is a huge proponent of embryonic stem cell research. They don’t often advertise this and when they do it is propagandized to downplay the fact that it murders embryonic humans and to try to show embryonic stem cell research as the only type of research with potential for a cure. Because of the lack of federal funding for embryonic stem cell research, the ADA is one of the major funders of diabetes research on embryonic stem cells. Most people don’t realize that for all the good the ADA does it is tainted with unconscionable evil.

I believe that virtually EVERY MAJOR medical association is strongly in favor of embryonic stem cell research. I can’t understand it because all the breakthroughs and actual treatments have involved adult stem cells and/or animal stem cells. My 12 year old daughter is a Type 1 insulin dependent diabetic. I would never allow for her to be treated with something that is the result of fetal stem cell research, yet I still am hoping for a cure and have no choice but to support responsible and ethical treatment.

As bad as the ADA is, as well as the AMA, they do support ANIMAL RESEARCH which is something that the HSUS strongly opposes.

In fact here is a little tidbit that brought more hope to me today, but this is EXACTLY what the HSUS wants to ban:

Scientists: Pig cells could help diabetics
news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20071022/ap_on_he_me/study_diabetes_2;_ylt=AvwKuC96AKJF9fkKt0ke8RUE1vAI

ST. LOUIS - Scientists at Washington University have transplanted embryonic pig pancreatic cells into diabetic monkeys, which could have major implications for the treatment of diabetes in humans.

Dr. Marc Hammerman says the approach has reduced the animals’ need for insulin injections and does not call for immunosuppression, which is a major problem in treating diabetes with transplantation.

Before DNA technology enabled pharmaceutical companies to manufacture human insulin in the 1980’s, pig and cow insulin were routinely given to diabetic patients.​

Today we are able to use manufactured insulin. But if the HSUS had its way, every person with diabetes prior to 1980 would have received a death sentence because the treatment back then involved using animal insulin.

 

[brianwalden]

I believe that virtually EVERY MAJOR medical association is strongly in favor of embryonic stem cell research.

There’s still hope with the American Heart Association: americanheart.org/presenter.jhtml?identifier=4757

I can’t understand it because all the breakthroughs and actual treatments have involved adult stem cells and/or animal stem cells.

I hear you, it doesn’t make sense to me either. I participated in a fundraiser for the ADA with my friends this summer, but had to make special arrangements so that the money I raised wouldn’t be used for ESCR. I hope there will be huge breakthroughs in your daughter’s lifetime.

Cases like these and HCUS just go to show us that nowadays we all have to be very careful about who we give charitable contributions to. We can’t just give money to everyone who asks.

 

[tamarac]

Hello melensdad,

This is part of an email I received today from an article about Wayne Pacelle and his plans for HSUS and the religious community:

**There’s excitement at The Humane Society of the United States about our new program on Animals and Religion—and already a slew of news stories about the launch of the program. Its goal is to reach out to and activate religious people and institutions on animal protection issues.
**
Please let me know if you would like to see the full article. If so, I can cut and paste it into this blog.

I find this a deeply frightening direction for HSUS to be taking since I am fully aware of their ultimate agenda. They, and other animal rights organizations like them, want to wipe out Christianity. Do you have any suggestions regarding how to bring this information about extreme animal rights organizations to the larger Christian community? I am hoping that you will know more than I as I do not have a clue how to proceed other than be one of thousands contacting the 700 club. I doubt they would even see my letter or take it seriously. I am deeply concerned.

I do believe that God has a guiding hand in everything we do. I have been led here to this forum. There must be a reason for that. I am hoping that help can be found here.

~Tamara

 

[melensdad]

On the Humane Society webpage they evoke the words from many religious leaders, probably several out of context.

But what I found particularly disturbing was a page the Humane Society calls THE FRANCIS FILES and it shows a drawing of St Francis. Clearly the HSUS is, by its use of names and images, attempting to associate itself with the legitimate Catholic Church.

Here is a link to that page:
hsus.org/religion/francis_files.html
This is the image they use on the page as if to provide some legitimacy to their cause?
http://www.hsus.org/web-files/Miscellaneous/saintfrancis1.jpg
The Humane Society has a page for Religions and it links to several specific religions. The main religious page is located here: hsus.org/religion/ The page seems harmless enough it obvious is being used to tie uninformed people of faith to its organization. There are links to several major religions that you can get to from that page including quotations from Catholics and Protestants.

I find this to be a very** interesting attempt to deceive** since so many of the leaders of the HSUS are reported to be atheists.

 

[Celeste88]

melensdad,
This may be slightly off topic, as I know you have been shooting feral cats…do you shoot the kittens too?

If so, couldn’t you trap the kittens and take them to someone who’d be willing to socialize them? I’m sure there would be a volunteer out there somewhere??? Feral kittens can be socialized and put up for adoption.