Does the Pope ordain all bishops?

[Dominica33]

I am wondering if all bishops (and higher) in the Catholic Church are normally ordained by the Pope in St. Peter’s? How about those in the Eastern rites in union with Rome?

I know that all must have the Pope’s approval, but what about the actual ordination itself?

Thanks.

 

[John_Higgins]

Most bishops aren’t ordained by the Pope. Many are ordained by the metropolian archbishop. For instance, the bishop of Springfield Illinois might be ordained by the Cardinal Archbishop of Chicago.

In fact Cardinal George did ordain Bishop Lucas of Sprinfield and Cardinal Bernardin ordained Bishop Doran of Rockford.

John

 

[batteddy]

Cardinal George is ordaining my old pastor as a bishop on Candlemas!!

 

[thistle]

John Higgins:

Most bishops aren’t ordained by the Pope. Many are ordained by the metropolian archbishop. For instance, the bishop of Springfield Illinois might be ordained by the Cardinal Archbishop of Chicago.

In fact Cardinal George did ordain Bishop Lucas of Sprinfield and Cardinal Bernardin ordained Bishop Doran of Rockford.

John

Would I be correct in thinking that although the Pope does not personally ordain all bishops he must at least approve the ordinations of bishops?

 

[Psalm45_9]

Somebody may correct me on this, but I think that I read somewhere that if the Pope does not ordain a bishop then two validly ordained bishops may ordain the Priest that the Pope has chosen to be ordained.

 

[Br.Rich_SFO]

Psalm45:9:

Somebody may correct me on this, but I think that I read somewhere that if the Pope does not ordain a bishop then two validly ordained bishops may ordain the Priest that the Pope has chosen to be ordained.

Canon Law requires three.

 

[Br.Rich_SFO]

thistle:

Would I be correct in thinking that although the Pope does not personally ordain all bishops he must at least approve the ordinations of bishops?

In the Latin Church that is correct. Most Eastern churches do not require the popes approval for new Eparch or Bishop and a few will even choose a new Patriarch without the popes involvement, except that they notify him of the choice.

 

[John_Higgins]

The appropriate section of Canon Law:

Can. 1013 No Bishop is permitted to consecrate anyone as Bishop, unless it is first established that a pontifical mandate has been issued.

Can. 1014 Unless a dispensation has been granted by the Apostolic See, the principal consecrating Bishop at an episcopal consecration is to have at least two other consecrating Bishops with him. It is, however, entirely appropriate that all the Bishops present should join with these in consecrating the Bishop-elect.

John

 

[malcolm_davies]

here is a link to every living bishop in the world including who consecrated them:

catholic-hierarchy.org/bishop/ll.html

 

[jpjd]

That is neat how their lineage is traced, by why does it go only so far? I checked out my bishop, and it shows the bishops before him back to 1500’s. Why not any further back than that?

 

[Marian_Carroll]

You may find this of help

forums.catholic-questions.org/showthread.php?t=93749

 

[Irish_Melkite]

Dominica33:

How about those in the Eastern rites in union with Rome?

I know that all must have the Pope’s approval, but what about the actual ordination itself?

Br. Rich SFO:

Most Eastern churches do not require the popes approval for new Eparch or Bishop and a few will even choose a new Patriarch without the popes involvement, except that they notify him of the choice.

The Holy Synods of Eastern and Oriental Catholic Churches of Patriarchal and Major-Archepiscopal rank may name bishops to Sees within the historical territory of the Church’s primatial hierarch without approval by the Holy See. However, the naming of bishops to Sees outside the historic territory, which includes all of what is usually termed the diaspora, requires the submission of a list, called the terna to Rome.

The terna contains at least three names, which are approved or denied approval by Rome, which also determines who will ultimately be appointed to each such See. All appointments to the hierarchy of such Churches which are of Metropolitan or Eparchial rank or are without a hierarchy are made by Rome.

All Patriarchs are elected by their respective Holy Synods without involvement by Rome. Rome is notified of the election results. The proclaimed Patriarch subsequently requests that the Pope (and each other Patriach) grant him communion; each does so and requests the same of the newly-elected Patriarch. (It is the equivalent of acknowledging one another.)

Major-Archbishops are also elected by their respective Holy Synods without involvement by Rome; however, assent to the election must be granted by Rome before the Major-Archbishop is proclaimed and installed in the office.

In Patriarchal Churches, most ordinations to the episcopate are performed by the Patriarch. If he is unable to be present, he will generally be represented by a respected high-ranking hierarch, who will be recorded as the principal consecrator.

Many years,

Neil