Does the term "Roman Catholic" apply to Eastern Catholics as well?

[babochka]

OrbisNonSufficit:

Well there is one very outdated theory that since primacy is found in Rome, Catholic Church is entirely “Roman” Catholic… not because it is Roman Rite but because “headquarters” are in Rome. Today, it is rarely used like that.

I notice in the US … the RC label is more common. Most Latin churches have it written as Roman Catholic or St John’s RC Church.

The only church I know of that uses the “Roman” in its name is the SSPX chapel. All of the other parishes in the local Latin diocese simply use “Catholic”. Must be a regional thing.

 

[Montrose]

The only church I know of that uses the “Roman” in its name is the SSPX chapel. All of the other parishes in the local Latin diocese simply use “Catholic”. Must be a regional thing.

SSPX is not a Church.

 

[OrbisNonSufficit]

SSPX is not a Church.

He said “SSPX chapel”. Chapel is a church.

 

[Montrose]

Montrose:

SSPX is not a Church.

He said “SSPX chapel”. Chapel is a church.

He said "The only church I know of that uses the “Roman” in its name is the SSPX chapel.

 

[OrbisNonSufficit]

He said " The only church I know of that uses the “Roman” in its name is the SSPX chapel.

Yes, church as in building. In other words only church=building that has Roman in it’s name (or in it’s sign or whatever) is that SSPX chapel.

 

[Montrose]

Yes, church as in building. In other words only church=building that has Roman in it’s name (or in it’s sign or whatever) is SSPX chapel.

It’s ironic it uses the word Roman considering it’s a movement disobedient to Rome and hence not in full communion with Rome.

 

[OrbisNonSufficit]

It’s ironic it uses the word Roman considering it’s a movement disobedient to Rome and hence not in full communion with Rome.

Ironic because of disobedience to the Rome yeah. But whether or not SSPX is in full communion with Rome is quite complicated topic for another thread. I mean, one can surely fulfill Sunday Obligation at SSPX Chapel and even receive Eucharist.

 

[OrbisNonSufficit]

Frankly, no faithful Catholic should have anything to do with SSPX.

Again, that isn’t official position of Catholic Church and CDF. But it is a point for another thread…

 

[Elvis_George]

and I think the heavily Latinized ECs like using the term “Roman Catholic”.

Roman Cartholic Syrian Church? I’ve only seen the more latinized syro Malabareans like those in the Eparchy of Ramanathapuram and the archeparchy of Ernakulam-Angamalay use the term

 

[Alexandria2020]

Frankly, no faithful Catholic should have anything to do with SSPX.

the odd thing with the SSPX situation is Pope Francis allowing faculties of absolution in 2015 and extending it. That shows the Vatican at least partially seems to see them as a legit part of the Church.

 

[Alexandria2020]

Roman Cartholic Syrian Church? I’ve only seen the more latinized syro Malabareans like those in the Eparchy of Ramanathapuram and the archeparchy of Ernakulam-Angamalay use the term

I’ve even heard people in Kottayam district say “RC” always. And Palai eparchy and Changanasherry archeparchy are the supposed more conservative dioceses. It’s weird in Kerala - the SyroMalabars call themseves RC and they label the Latins as LC. Weird.

 

[Elvis_George]

Wow I’ve heard the name Syrian Catholic more then R.C. Kerala is rlly weird when it comes to names
The Roman Catholics are called Latin Catholics (Latheeen Catholica)
The Syro Malabareans are called Syrian (Suriyani) or Roman Catholic
The Syro Malankarese are known as Malankara
The Malankara Orthodox are known as Orthodox
The Jacobite Syriac Orthodox are known as Jacobite (Yackoba)
The Marthoma Syrian as Mar Thoma
and the CSI is always CSI
Knanayas are always either called Knanaya Catholica or Knanaya Yackoba…never Knanaya Malankara Syrian, which is the name of the Knanaya jacobites or Knanaya Syro Malabar
Plus the Assyrian Church of the East is known as Chaldean Syrian (Chaldaya Suriyani) in Kerala

 

[Alexandria2020]

The Roman Catholics are called Latin Catholics (Latheeen Catholica)
The Syro Malabareans are called Syrian (Suriyani) or Roman Catholic

yea, the SyroMalabars actually think they are more “Roman” than the Latins. Heheh

 

[Elvis_George]

yea, the SyroMalabars actually think they are more “Roman” than the Latins. Heheh

hahaha yeah that is so true

 

[babochka]

OrbisNonSufficit:

Montrose:

SSPX is not a Church.

He said “SSPX chapel”. Chapel is a church.

He said "The only church I know of that uses the “Roman” in its name is the SSPX chapel.

I did not capitalize “church” because I was using it in a secular sense, according to the dictionary definition “a building for public Christian worship”. It is used in the sense of “the Baptist church down the street” or the “Presbyterian church across town.” What word do you use to describe such places?

The particular building that I’m referring to has a sign out front that reads “St. ______'s Roman Catholic Church”. It is not a parish, of course, which is why I called it a chapel.

 

[Montrose]

the odd thing with the SSPX situation is Pope Francis allowing faculties of absolution in 2015 and extending it. That shows the Vatican at least partially seems to see them as a legit part of the Church.

Of course they are but they are a disobedient part of the Church. Until they repent, show humility and give obedience to the Pope and come to full communion with the Church faithful Catholics should not be supporting them. Supporting SSPX is supporting disobedience to the Pope.

 

[OrbisNonSufficit]

This comment I made earlier “You can speculate as much as you want but the Latin Rite will NEVER go into schism.” was reported by someone in this thread as spam.

You posted exactly same thing twice. I recommend quoting yourself if you wish to do that in the future.

It didn’t seem very charitable not answering my question and just repeating yourself either, but whatever.

 

[OrbisNonSufficit]

Are you saying you were the one who reported me for SPAM??

I am not saying anything of the sort.

 

[Montrose]

I am not saying anything of the sort.

Okay then.

 

[Shasta-Rose]

We have a local church called Byzantine Catholic. They are not Orthodox and they are under the Pope. But they are not in a diocese. Do they have a bishop? How can they have a bishop without a diocese? Is that possible? What I’m getting at is, who do they report to? They must have a stairway of authority. I looked it up somewhere, and it said they were under the Pope, but that’s all it said.

Just curiosity on my part. Doesn’t impact my life. Figured if anybody here knew, it would be you. Thanks.