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Our parish priest has begin a very annoying (IMHO) practice of singing and having the congregation join in singing when he raises the host during the consecration and then again when he raises the wine during its consecration. I find this annoying because of its happening during the most solemn part of the mass. I would prefer to have silence so I could concentrate on what had just happened. Have others experienced this type of singing during the consecration? Is this allowed in the rubrics for the mass?
 
pictureman96 said:
Our parish priest has begin a very annoying (IMHO) practice of singing and having the congregation join in singing when he raises the host during the consecration and then again when he raises the wine during its consecration. I find this annoying because of its happening during the most solemn part of the mass. I would prefer to have silence so I could concentrate on what had just happened. Have others experienced this type of singing during the consecration? Is this allowed in the rubrics for the mass?
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What is he singing and what is he having the congregation sing?
 
Hmmm…if he is singing the words of consecration, that’s permitted (and, in fact, encouraged). However, at these elevations there is no response by the people. If, on the other hand, you are talking about the elevation at the end of the consecration where the priest sings “Through Him, with Him…” then that, too is permitted and the people should sing the “Amen” that follows. Nothing wrong with that – again, that’s an encouraged practice.

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Our priest does this - but it’s more of a chant.I like it - he has a beautiful voice…our other priest…not so good. He chooses not to sing. 😃
 
He is not singing words of consecration. While the host is being held in elevation he sings the full complete “Oh come let us adore Him” refrain from the Christmas carol, and all of the congregation sings along with him. Mind you this is not AFTER the elevation, it is right at the high point of the elevation.
 
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He is not singing words of consecration. While the host is being held in elevation he sings the full complete “Oh come let us adore Him” refrain from the Christmas carol, and all of the congregation sings along with him. Mind you this is not AFTER the elevation, it is right at the high point of the elevation.
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That’s not allowed and you might point it out to him respectfully.
 
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He is not singing words of consecration. While the host is being held in elevation he sings the full complete “Oh come let us adore Him” refrain from the Christmas carol, and all of the congregation sings along with him. Mind you this is not AFTER the elevation, it is right at the high point of the elevation.
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As passus has noted, this is not permitted and would constitute an abuse. Catholics are entitled to the Mass as the Church has promulgated it, not as someone thinks it should be served. No priest (or deacon) has the right to change the Mass.

Deacon Ed
 
pictureman96 said:
He is not singing words of consecration. While the host is being held in elevation he sings the full complete “Oh come let us adore Him” refrain from the Christmas carol, and all of the congregation sings along with him. Mind you this is not AFTER the elevation, it is right at the high point of the elevation.
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Unless there’s some new Eucharistic Prayer we’re forgetting about then this is an abuse.

Do you all then go on to sing the Memorial Acclamation?
 
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If, on the other hand, you are talking about the elevation at the end of the consecration where the priest sings “Through Him, with Him…” then that, too is permitted and the people should sing the “Amen” that follows. Nothing wrong with that – again, that’s an encouraged practice.
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Is it permissible for the people to sing during the minor elevation, the “Through Him, with Him, …” part?

TIA. ASD​

Traditional Latin Mass: Translation and Grammar
 
OK, many have indicated this is an abuse of the liturgy. It has been pointed out to him (by parishioners) more than once but the practice continues. Who in the diocese has the authority to stop this practice, if indeed they (his higher-ups) even care?
 
At the parish I grew up at, one of our priests was from Africa, and he would sometimes do this during daily Masses. During the elevation, he would sing any of a variety of short adoration-oriented things:

“O come let us adore Him…”

“Jesus, Jesus, Jesus in the morning, Jesus in the noontime; Jesus, Jesus, Jesus when the sun goes down”

Something that included, “Worship Jesus, our Redeemer, he is perfect, King of Glory”

They might be private things he says as a priest during that moment, which is fine, but making them public (and inviting the congregation to join, which he often did) is “adding to” the liturgy. I was much younger then, and I didn’t see anything wrong with it, and I actually appreciated it, because it meant the Host and Chalice were being elevated for more than a second or two, and we really were reminded to worship Jesus present in the sacrament…

But still, it’s not appropriate for the Mass. It’s certainly appropriate to sing such things at Adoration, just not at Mass.
 
pictureman96 said:
Our parish priest has begin a very annoying (IMHO) practice of singing and having the congregation join in singing when he raises the host during the consecration and then again when he raises the wine during its consecration. I find this annoying because of its happening during the most solemn part of the mass. I would prefer to have silence so I could concentrate on what had just happened. Have others experienced this type of singing during the consecration? Is this allowed in the rubrics for the mass?
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There’s a priest at a Portland, OR parish that I used to belong to that does that…in fact, he uses a “Eucharistic prayer” set to the tune of “Adeste Fideles” that HE WROTE. Changes the words of consecration and everything. Totally invalid Mass. Very, very disturbing. I think he’s gotten in trouble from the Bishop before since he stopped doing it once (he has various sung “Eucharistic Prayers” that he has written throughout the year), then he came up with a new one that had the words from Eucharistic Prayer II (but had piano music underneath…so still an abuse, but at least valid), but it denegraded from there, If you’re in Portland, I bet I know who it is.
 
Changes the words of consecration and everything. Totally invalid Mass.
As long as the meaning of the Words of Consecration were clearly the same, it was not invalid, though it certainly was an abuse and horribly illicit.
 
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