Does "Traditional Marriage" mean what you think it does?

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A “cute” marriage poster taken from a gay blogger’s [Unicorn Booty] website and shared to the website of a guy [Adam Mordecai] who “gets paid to find snarky things that matter” and thinks “Jon Stewart is some sort of oracle” by a professional spin doctor [Mr. Hlinko].

I think perhaps this confirms the stereotype that social liberals need to be taught how to think for themselves.

Was I supposed to conclude something else?
 
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A “cute” marriage poster taken from a gay blogger’s [Unicorn Booty] website and shared to the website of a guy [Adam Mordecai] who “gets paid to find snarky things that matter” and thinks “Jon Stewart is some sort of oracle” by a professional spin doctor [Mr. Hlinko].

I think perhaps this confirms the stereotype that social liberals need to be taught how to think for themselves.

Was I supposed to conclude something else?
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Ae the Bible quotes and their attroibution, or the authority of the Bible any less because fo the source? You seem to think so.
 
Gaber said:
Ae the Bible quotes and their attroibution, or the authority of the Bible any less because fo the source? You seem to think so.
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Bible quotes used out of context to support an immoral agenda do, of course, have less authority than, for example, quotes from the Bible that support Church teaching.

Don’t we all think so?
 
I’m sure glad I’m Catholic and that I have an infallible document called the Catechism that completely overrides any one man’s personal interpertation of the bible!

Marriage is one man, one woman and that’s a crystal clear fact. Anybody who denounces this truth and knowingly leads others into a false belief is going to have to answer for it on judgment day…
 
Gaber said:
Ae the Bible quotes and their attroibution, or the authority of the Bible any less because fo the source? You seem to think so.
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Note that Satan can quote the Bible for his own purposes - See Matthew 4.
 
Gaber said:
Ae the Bible quotes and their attroibution, or the authority of the Bible any less because fo the source? You seem to think so.
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I can cherry pick passages from a fast food chain’s employee handbook, slap said passages onto a “cute” chart, and claim that said fast food chain is a cult based on ritual food production. Doesn’t mean my argument is valid or even worth disproving just because I cited the offical handbook in an obvious invalid manner [cherry picking]. Especially if I post said “cute” picture and just ask for “comments?”.

If you like, we could discuss the rather unethical practices of those involved in the production and spreading of the “cute” picture.

Or we could discuss how said “cute” pictures [also called propoganda] are designed to trigger an emotional response rather then an intellectual one; and retard rather then promote an honest discussion/analysis of the issue.
 
MidnightSun12 said:
I’m sure glad I’m Catholic and that I have an infallible document called the Catechism that completely overrides any one man’s personal interpertation of the bible!

Marriage is one man, one woman and that’s a crystal clear fact. Anybody who denounces this truth and knowingly leads others into a false belief is going to have to answer for it on judgment day…
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One man, one woman with Jesus Christ in the middle (centre). It doesn’t work otherwise.
 
Jesus defined marriage as Adam and Eve. He has the final word on it since he is God. End of story.
 
Corki said:
Bible quotes used out of context to support an immoral agenda do, of course, have less authority than, for example, quotes from the Bible that support Church teaching.

Don’t we all think so?
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If they are used out of context, how so?

I just took the first non-traditional one. Let’s see what they are claiming.

6 Judah got a wife named Tamar for his firstborn, Er.
7 But Er, Judah’s firstborn, greatly offended the LORD; so the LORD took his life.c
8 Then Judah said to Onan, “Have intercourse with your brother’s wife, in fulfillment of your duty as brother-in-law, and thus preserve your brother’s line.”*
9 Onan, however, knew that the offspring would not be his; so whenever he had intercourse with his brother’s wife, he wasted his seed on the ground, to avoid giving offspring to his brother.
10 What he did greatly offended the LORD, and the LORD took his life too.

So the Lord was angry because Onan refused to have procreative intercourse and He killed Onan.

Whether the guy is gay or not, what does this chapter say, if not that God required sex with brother’s widow?

I’m not saying the guy is right, but I think there at least is a valid question. I’m not asking if the Church teaches this is licit; I’m asking if the Bible says God required it.

Alan
 
AlanFromWichita said:
If they are used out of context, how so?

I just took the first non-traditional one. Let’s see what they are claiming.

6 Judah got a wife named Tamar for his firstborn, Er.
7 But Er, Judah’s firstborn, greatly offended the LORD; so the LORD took his life.c
8 Then Judah said to Onan, “Have intercourse with your brother’s wife, in fulfillment of your duty as brother-in-law, and thus preserve your brother’s line.”*
9 Onan, however, knew that the offspring would not be his; so whenever he had intercourse with his brother’s wife, he wasted his seed on the ground, to avoid giving offspring to his brother.
10 What he did greatly offended the LORD, and the LORD took his life too.

So the Lord was angry because Onan refused to have procreative intercourse and He killed Onan.

Whether the guy is gay or not, what does this chapter say, if not that God required sex with brother’s widow?

I’m not saying the guy is right, but I think there at least is a valid question. I’m not asking if the Church teaches this is licit; I’m asking if the Bible says God required it.

Alan
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Well, God also commanded Abraham to sacrifice his son, but this certainly would never apply to us as Christians. These are obviously extraordinary cases (hence the fact that they are in the bible in the first place) and don’t actually represent the norm of how we are expected to live in the absence of the divine intervention that these stories depict. Hence, notice how these stories are merely a depiction of events and not actual commandments for living our lives, personally?
 
MidnightSun12 said:
Well, God also commanded Abraham to sacrifice his son, but this certainly would never apply to us as Christians. These are obviously extraordinary cases (hence the fact that they are in the bible in the first place) and don’t actually represent the norm of how we are expected to live in the absence of the divine intervention that these stories depict. Hence, notice how these stories are merely a depiction of events and not actual commandments for living our lives, personally?
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I’ve never heard that angle on it, but I like it. Mainly, we are not to model that behavior?

Alan
 
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