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I agree, too often people think that criticising a particular action of a pope or reform is criticising the office of the papacy or even the holy spirit itself. Fair enough if something is expressed in the ordinary magisterium we are supposed to obey it, but if it clearly goes against previous teaching or the infallible magisterium we can question it (politely and charitably) and not be ‘dissident’ or ‘disloyal’ to the church.I think you and I have a similar outlook.
I tend to be skeptical as well.
The good thing about this type of outlook is that our faith is not easily shaken when priests or religious that we hold in high esteem make mistakes.
And unless something id de fide, we realize that reforms may be in order and we don’t question the Holy Spirit abandoning his Church.
Br Jr, the only qualification I would make to this is that it is not wrong to question or to think about these issues, after all, many doctors of the church such as St Thomas Aquinas, St Robert Bellarmine and even St Augustine himself did so. Different saints act and are called to do different things, some it is true may just humbly obey and serve trusting and not questioning others however are called to question these things and even state facts that may be unpopular or question the hierarchy, the saints I have cited did so in their theological works.They all used the same phrase, which I believe may have come from Augustine.
“I am a child of the Church.”
As long as the pope, the bishop or the superior did not command sin, they went along without thinking about it too much, because they were truly sons or daughters of the Church. They trusted that the pope, bishop or superior would figure it out with the help of grace. The wonderful thing about their lives is that they did not spend time on the things that we do. They spent their time doing three things:
I think that we make too many things important in our lives that at the end of the day are not going to make us saints. Sanctity is achieved through the heroic practice of virtue, detachment and trust in the Blessed Mother who will always lead us to her Son.
- Praying
- Serving
- Penance
Fraternally,
Br. JR, OSF![]()
The beauty of The Church is that there is room for both, but it would be wrong as you often say to apply the example of some saints and apply that to all of them or set it as an example that must be followed by everyone.