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YoungTradCath
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Because it is optional, like hand patens, and burses, and ciborium veils, and Gregorian chant, and Latin, and so on.
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superamazingman
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If you ask me, it’s the misguided “spirit” of vatican II.
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Gorgias
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Yes.
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superamazingman
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to answer your question directly, it’s required in the EF, optional (but “praiseworthy”) in the OF.
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superamazingman
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smalll point: redemptonis sacramentum doesn’t seem to say that hand patens are optional.
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Cathryn
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We use the chalice veil and burse at the OF Mass. Our priest or deacon purifies after Communion. 
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Santi2
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Our new Parish Priest did not even know what a Burse is and was going to “bin” them
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DexUK
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Our old parish priest used to use the burse and the veil. We continued for a while with the new one until he instructed all the servers (who set up the altar as well) not to use them any more. We are quite an elderly and traditional parish and this - and other - alterations have upset quite a few people over the last two years, but the current parish priest isn’t interested in listening. Or rather, he listens… and then ignores.
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UpUpAndAway
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I have not seen a chalice veil in action in either my territorial or secondary parish, but at one of the latter’s three churches I noticed they use a ciborium veil. 
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Santi2
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Our former PP used the burse and veil as well. But, this new one refuses to on the basis of “personal preference” (never mind that he did not know what a burse is in the first place). We let “personal preference” slide until changes introduced at Mass included an invitation to the congregation at Doxology. War was declared and the GIRM was waved about. We currently have a very fragile truce with the new Priest.Our old parish priest used to use the burse and the veil. We continued for a while with the new one until he instructed all the servers (who set up the altar as well) not to use them any more. We are quite an elderly and traditional parish and this - and other - alterations have upset quite a few people over the last two years, but the current parish priest isn’t interested in listening. Or rather, he listens… and then ignores.
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marleelynn
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my parish and a nearby parish I attend don’t use a chalice veil, but I know a couple older tradational parishes that do
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Brendan
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Our does.
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Brendan
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There was an indult for the US that expired in 2005. The US bishops petitioned for an extension, but, in 2006, Pope Benedict denied the extension.
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Mark1970
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I’ve not seen a chalice veil or burse used at any local parishes at the OF. The only place I’ve ever seen a chalice veil used at an OF Mass is 20+ miles away at my grandmother’s parish.
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Cat
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Yes to Chalice Veil and Yes to Immediate purification of the vessels.
And we have a very “modern” parish and OF Mass–clamshell nave, St. Louis Jesuit music done with guitars and piano, and in the summer, the people wear shorts and tank tops to Mass.
And we have a coat rack.
And we have a very “modern” parish and OF Mass–clamshell nave, St. Louis Jesuit music done with guitars and piano, and in the summer, the people wear shorts and tank tops to Mass.
And we have a coat rack.
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Tigg
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Thank you! This is my understanding as well. We have a parish in town which is disobedient to this and allows the EMHC’s to purify the vessels. The pastor, a monsignor, justifies this by saying, “I don’t have a deacon!” WRONG!!!
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dskysmine
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I’m from Germany but in OF we do have a Chalice Veil, and everything is done by the celebrant, also because there is no EMHC. This happens in both the portuguese mission, the normal german parishes and also the english speaking mission.
But here the issue of lack of money might not be as accentuated as in other countries.
And the amount of people in the pwes is also smaller than I am used to in Portugal.
There we did have a Chalice Veil but Purification could happen in different times according to the celebrant.
God bless,
D.
But here the issue of lack of money might not be as accentuated as in other countries.
And the amount of people in the pwes is also smaller than I am used to in Portugal.
There we did have a Chalice Veil but Purification could happen in different times according to the celebrant.
God bless,
D.
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GwenL
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For the EF, the chalice veil and burse are required, as is the purification rite at the altar during the Mass. For the OF, all are optional; the sacred vessels may be purified at a side table after the Mass.
We use special chalice veils and burses for the EF; these sets are the same material and color as the priest’s (Roman) chasuble and maniple. So far, we have a set in gold, black, and violet.
We use “everyday” chalice veils and burses for the OF–Sunday and daily Masses. We have all the liturgical colors.
At most Masses, purification of the sacred vessels is done by the priest or deacon at the altar. At bigger Masses, with four chalices offered for the people, the purification of those vessels is done after Mass by the priest or deacon.
Lay people may not purify the vessels. As sacristan, I wash them thoroughly with soap and water after the ritual purification is complete.
We use special chalice veils and burses for the EF; these sets are the same material and color as the priest’s (Roman) chasuble and maniple. So far, we have a set in gold, black, and violet.
We use “everyday” chalice veils and burses for the OF–Sunday and daily Masses. We have all the liturgical colors.
At most Masses, purification of the sacred vessels is done by the priest or deacon at the altar. At bigger Masses, with four chalices offered for the people, the purification of those vessels is done after Mass by the priest or deacon.
Lay people may not purify the vessels. As sacristan, I wash them thoroughly with soap and water after the ritual purification is complete.
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