Does your parish have a crucifix, a plain cross, or a resurrectifix in its sanctuary?

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I love the Crucifix. It shows our Lord’s suffering, and not only His, but ours, as a result of our decision to follow Him. Following Jesus hurts. It hurts because the world is engulfed in sin.
 
I’d say,“Great, we’re an Easter people…we’re also in violation of the directives of the Holy See and if we don’t fix it, one of the Easter people is going to go to the Easter bishop and complain. If that doesn’t work, that particular Easter person is going to contact the Easter Congregation of Divine Worship, and complain AGAIN! This particular Easter person is perfectly prepared to go to one of the Easter canon law societies that help the Easter laity for free and get the assistance needed. If necessary, this can be taken all the way to the Easter Pope. Happy Easter.”
 
JKirkLVNV said:
I’d say,“Great, we’re an Easter people…we’re also in violation of the directives of the Holy See and if we don’t fix it, one of the Easter people is going to go to the Easter bishop and complain. If that doesn’t work, that particular Easter person is going to contact the Easter Congregation of Divine Worship, and complain AGAIN! This particular Easter person is perfectly prepared to go to one of the Easter canon law societies that help the Easter laity for free and get the assistance needed. If necessary, this can be taken all the way to the Easter Pope. Happy Easter.”
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:rotfl::rotfl::rotfl: 👍
 
I would remind them not to invite St Paul there to preach.

For he preached Christ Crucified… and taught the early church exactly that.

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Claire_from_DE said:
In itself, there is nothing improper in the image of the risen Christ (if Christ is not risen, our faith is in vain). However we are required to have a crucifix on the altar or in the sanctuary during mass.
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It’s discussed in this thread: forums.catholic-questions.org/showthread.php?t=215829

Apparently, many churches have a large resurrectifix with the processional crucifix satisfying the GIRM requirement of a crucifix being near the alter.
 
Lepanto said:
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He died on the Cross to obtain forgiveness of our Sins, He didn’t come down off the cross at the request of those who mocked Him as they passed by. Matt 27:40

He rose from the tomb, not off the cross.
 
Br.Rich_SFO said:
He died on the Cross to obtain forgiveness of our Sins, He didn’t come down off the cross at the request of those who mocked Him as they passed by. Matt 27:40

He rose from the tomb, not off the cross.
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Well put. Thank you.
 
JKirkLVNV said:
I’d say,“Great, we’re an Easter people…we’re also in violation of the directives of the Holy See and if we don’t fix it, one of the Easter people is going to go to the Easter bishop and complain. If that doesn’t work, that particular Easter person is going to contact the Easter Congregation of Divine Worship, and complain AGAIN! This particular Easter person is perfectly prepared to go to one of the Easter canon law societies that help the Easter laity for free and get the assistance needed. If necessary, this can be taken all the way to the Easter Pope. Happy Easter.”
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:rotfl::rotfl::rotfl:
 
I like to say: “We preach Christ crucified.” (1 Cor. 1:23) Don’t you?

And then there’s this:

“For the message of the cross is foolishness to those who are perishing, but to us who are being saved it is the power of God.” (1 Cor. 1:18)

And what is the most powerful symbol in the history of the world?
 
You can tell that I haven’t “been around”. When I attended a very modern looking church that had one of these I was extremely puzzled until I saw that the window frame in back of the Risen Christ actually formed a sort of cross. (That’s the only time I’ve seen one, too!)
 
The Mass is outside time & space & brings us to Calvary–that is the whole point of the Mass. It is a no-brainer that the crucifix should be there. Ideally, when the priest holds up the Body of Christ, the tabernacle & crucifix will be right behind him, aligned with the Eucharist. Because the Eucharist is the Body of Christ, we should always see Christ’s body on the cross via the Crucifix. Because the whole point of our church is the Eucharist.

It is no coincidence that Prostestants don’t believe in the true presence of Christ in the Eucharist. They don’t believe in crucifixes–where the body of Christ is displayed.

Look at the crucifixtion–what does the bad thief do? He tells Christ to come down off that cross and save himself. What does an empty cross really symbolize? It symbolizes a people who aren’t willing to take up their cross & follow Jesus.
 
turtle18 said:
It is no coincidence that Prostestants don’t believe in the true presence of Christ in the Eucharist. They don’t believe in crucifixes–where the body of Christ is displayed.

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Strange, isn’t it that they would prefer to place the instrument of torture in a prominent place… center their services on their version of our Book,… and cringe at the Corpus.

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Lepanto said:
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“The Mass is the unbloody re-presentation of Christ’s death on the Cross for our sins. What we receive in Holy Communion is the Body and Blood, Soul and Divinity of a new Paschal Lamb, the Lamb of God, whose Sacrifice was that He died on the Cross for our sins. This is why we have an Altar; this is why we offer the sacrifice of Melchizedek, the bread and wine of thanksgiving. The central event of the Christian mystery is the Cross. Everything before the Cross was preparation for it; everything after, was because of it.”
 
i am opposed to the resurrected Jesus being above the altar for 2 reasons.
  1. every mass is about the last supper and the sanctuary is supposed to be Calvary.
    to me its like having the wedding reception before the wedding.
  2. i can remember being a young girl looking up at a life size crucifix in our church. it should have been a horrible image to a child. Jesus looked in so much pain looking up to the heavens. blood dripping down His face and neck from big huge thorns that dug into his scalp and more blood ran down his side, hands, and feet. a bone sticking out of His knee. the nails looked huge and painful. but all i could think of is God loved me that much and how important it was for me to try not to sin so i wouldnt put anymore pain on Christ. if all we ever see are the good feely things about our faith, especially the children, arent we robbing Jesus Christ and ourselves of the image of the greatest act of love ever throughout all of mankind?
 
Perhaps because people want to think of themselves as perfectly justified and holy rather than sinners for whom the Son of God died: “who was put to death for our trespasses and raised for our justification.” (Rom 4:25)

There is no greater love than to lay down your life for a friend, but we’d rather not look at the sign of that greatest love.
 
turtle18 said:
the mass is outside time & space & brings us to calvary–that is the whole point of the mass. It is a no-brainer that the crucifix should be there. Ideally, when the priest holds up the body of christ, the tabernacle & crucifix will be right behind him, aligned with the eucharist. Because the eucharist is the body of christ, we should always see christ’s body on the cross via the crucifix. Because the whole point of our church is the eucharist.

It is no coincidence that prostestants don’t believe in the true presence of christ in the eucharist. They don’t believe in crucifixes–where the body of christ is displayed.

Look at the crucifixtion–what does the bad thief do? He tells christ to come down off that cross and save himself. What does an empty cross really symbolize? It symbolizes a people who aren’t willing to take up their cross & follow jesus.
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your comments are in serious error i take it you have never been in a lutheran or anglican church if you had you would have never made your flawed comments about " protestants dont believe in the true presence they dont believe in crucifixes "
 
japhy said:
Perhaps because people want to think of themselves as perfectly justified and holy rather than sinners for whom the Son of God died: “who was put to death for our trespasses and raised for our justification.” (Rom 4:25)

There is no greater love than to lay down your life for a friend, but we’d rather not look at the sign of that greatest love.
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Good point. I guess it falls in line with the protestant thinking that we don’t have to do anything because He not only did it all, but there is no meaning to picking up our cross, preaching Christ crucified, and re-presenting the timeless sacrifice of Calvary
 
Lepanto said:
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I would ask, What is your point? Does that make you more holy than anyone else? You seem to be putting others down, Why? Does it matter more one way than the other? If so, I’m an all year Christian, we love Christ for all he did.
 
I would respond “We have a Crucifix in our sanctuary because we are an Easter people who proclaim the death of the Lord until He comes!.” (1 Corinthians 11:23-26)

Thank God for the Year of St Paul!
 
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