Does your parish use a Paten during Communion?

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*Redemptionis Sacramentum *was written in May of 2004 to deal with liturgical abuses and to clarify norms. In that document, written about a year and a half ago…

[93.] The Communion-plate for the Communion of the faithful should be retained, so as to avoid the danger of the sacred host or some fragment of it falling.180

I was just wondering if any parishes out there are using them. Please explain or elaborate, as desired.

They look like this:

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No the parish doesn’t but at school they do. I have seen more than one host fall on the paten at school. I am glad that we use them.

The damage that is done when a parish doesn’t use them is terrible. One of my students recently told me in her parish the Eucharistic minister dropped the host and stepped on it and pulled it back with her foot and left it there.
I was horrified.
 
In my Traditional Latin Mass parish, of course we do!

In fact, on Christmas day we had some NO parishoners show up at the early morning Mass by mistake. It was my distinct pleasure to shove that paten right up under their chin until they got the message, dropped their hands and stuck their tongues out. The paten has many uses, including being used as a teaching tool. 😃
 
The parish I go to now does not.

When I lived in the Philadelphia area, there was one parish that would use them, even at daily Mass (I occasionally attended Saturday Morning Mass there).

PF
 
We do, but the servers twirl them, tilt them and such. I can’t wait to begin their server instruction…There will be no survivors! 😃

S
 
I should clarify, since many of us do go to multiple parishes for one reason or another, be sure to use the parish in which you are registered for your poll result.
 
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slewi:
We do, but the servers twirl them, tilt them and such. I can’t wait to begin their server instruction…There will be no survivors! 😃

S
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This is important. I’ve noticed that particles of the Sacred Host do actually end up on the paten from time to time. So, they aren’t just for show.

I was also instructed that anytime I have to walk with a paten that’s been used, I should always place my free hand in front of it to prevent any particles from blowing off.

I know you will teach them well, Stephen. 👍
 
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slewi:
We do, but the servers twirl them, tilt them and such. I can’t wait to begin their server instruction…There will be no survivors! 😃
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Good for you! This seems to be one aspect of server instruction that is often missed, judging by the number of times I see altar servers drop the paten to their sides.
 
Dr. Bombay:
In my Traditional Latin Mass parish, of course we do!

In fact, on Christmas day we had some NO parishoners show up at the early morning Mass by mistake. It was my distinct pleasure to shove that paten right up under their chin until they got the message, dropped their hands and stuck their tongues out. The paten has many uses, including being used as a teaching tool. 😃
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And considering that Rome has granted the right to receive in the hand as well as the tongue, you are not teaching what the Church teaches.

Further, you are making your agenda during the time of reception of Communion. If you wanted to suggest to someone receiving in a way you appear not to approve of, that could be done after Mass.
 
Dr. Bombay:
In my Traditional Latin Mass parish, of course we do!

In fact, on Christmas day we had some NO parishoners show up at the early morning Mass by mistake. It was my distinct pleasure to shove that paten right up under their chin until they got the message, dropped their hands and stuck their tongues out. The paten has many uses, including being used as a teaching tool. 😃
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I suppose from there you could slap them upside the head if they still don’t get the message, eh?
 
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otm:
And considering that Rome has granted the right to receive in the hand as well as the tongue, you are not teaching what the Church teaches.

Further, you are making your agenda during the time of reception of Communion. If you wanted to suggest to someone receiving in a way you appear not to approve of, that could be done after Mass.
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When the priest whispers to me, “I’m not putting It in their hand” as we’re coming down from the altar, I know what to do. Since I wasn’t the one distributing Communion, it wasn’t my call to begin with. My agenda? Methinks not.

People can receive in the hand at millions of Catholic churches around the globe. If they can’t take the time to read a church bulletin properly, then show up at a TLM expecting English and innovation, that’s too bad for them.
 
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AMDG1:
I suppose from there you could slap them upside the head if they still don’t get the message, eh?
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Now there’s an idea. :clapping:
 
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slewi:
We do, but the servers twirl them, tilt them and such. I can’t wait to begin their server instruction…There will be no survivors! 😃

S
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I could just see what our altar girls would do with patens if we used them. The way they twirl their hair, bite their fingers, inspect their nails, and kick the carpet, it’s no wonder our priest doesn’t use them. Who knows what they would do with patens.

Our priest does not allow the EMHC to distribute the host, though. He reserves that privelege for himself. And he is very careful when handling the host.
 
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otm:
And considering that Rome has granted the right to receive in the hand as well as the tongue, you are not teaching what the Church teaches.
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Actually, the rubrics of the Missal of 1962 are in force at TLM Masses, and those rubrics require the faithful to receive on the tongue. The right to receive in the hand is only allowed during the Pauline Mass. Much like you wouldn’t go to a Byzantine Church and try to receive in the hand just because you have that right in the Pauline Mass, you should have the same courtesty at TLM.

However, I do believe that Dr. Bombay’s attitude towards those who didn’t know better was a bit uncharitable.

I have never been to TLM, but at least I know to receive on the tongue. The one time I attended a Byzantine Church, I called ahead for instructions on how to receive. When I arrived at the church, I checked with a member of the parish to make sure I was in the right place (trees blocked part of the sign) and matters of bowing vs. genuflecting. When I went up for communion this same parishoner, a little old lady, tugged at my shirt and gave me a brief instruction (that most of the people in line next to me heard) on how to receive. While I knew how to receive from calling ahead, I took a moment to thank God for her charity.
 
All churches that I have been to in the diocese which I reside use patens. I don’t know if this is the norm for my diocese, but I haven’t been to a church yet that DIDN’T use them. Altar servers (male and female) are from what I can tell well educated regarding paten-etiquette.
 
At my former Novus Ordo parish they didn’t. They would rather have many people distributing rather than ones holding the paten.

At my new parish, (www.materecclesiae.org) they always use a paten…always…no exceptions.

Ken
 
Dr. Bombay:
In my Traditional Latin Mass parish, of course we do!

In fact, on Christmas day we had some NO parishoners show up at the early morning Mass by mistake. It was my distinct pleasure to shove that paten right up under their chin until they got the message, dropped their hands and stuck their tongues out. The paten has many uses, including being used as a teaching tool. 😃
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Too bad you weren’t there at the Last Supper to enforce your rule as well. :eek: Joe
 
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