Does your parish use a Paten during Communion?

[Lux_et_veritas]

Dr. Bombay:

This is important. I’ve noticed that particles of the Sacred Host do actually end up on the paten from time to time. So, they aren’t just for show.

I was also instructed that anytime I have to walk with a paten that’s been used, I should always place my free hand in front of it to prevent any particles from blowing off.

I know you will teach them well, Stephen.

As a communicant who receives, at a rail, an intincted Host, with a paten under my chin, I can attest to having seen particles, quite visibly on it as it approached.

I wonder if people ever look at their hand after they receive to notice that sometimes there are particles in the hand.

 

[Dr.Bombay]

MusicMan:

However, I do believe that Dr. Bombay’s attitude towards those who didn’t know better was a bit uncharitable.

Oh, they knew better all right. The Latin Mass has been said at this parish for almost 20 years. These were regular NO parishoners. They most certainly knew better.

Besides, as I said, it wasn’t my call. The priest wasn’t going to put it in their hand. Period. It is what it is. It has nothing to do with charity. Remember, we must maintain uniformity of posture. This is the Most Important Thing. And, at a TLM, the uniform posture is on the tongue.

Or does uniformity of posture only refer to prohibiting people from kneeling? I want to make sure I understand so I can know exactly who deserves my charity and who doesn’t. Hand communicants = definitely deserving of charity. Kneeling communicants = not worthy of charity. Is that how it works?

 

[Dr.Bombay]

jco2004:

Too bad you weren’t there at the Last Supper to enforce your rule as well. Joe

That is a very uncharitable comment. :tsktsk:

 

[AJV]

Redemptionis Sacramentum was written in May of 2004 to deal with liturgical abuses and to clarify norms. In that document, written about a year and a half ago…

[93.] The Communion-plate for the Communion of the faithful should be retained, so as to avoid the danger of the sacred host or some fragment of it falling.180

I was just wondering if any parishes out there are using them. Please explain or elaborate, as desired.

They look like this:

http://www.st-jude.com/Merchant2/graphics/00000001/19.jpg

ALWAYS. They don’t look like the proper communion patens displayed above though- they are just like ‘normal’ patens which the server holds between the thumb and forefinger. And its not just my parish does it-all the parishes around here and all those I have visited in my own country use them. But then again bells (of some sort or the other) are used at all masses and communion is 99% of the time under one kind only- which, from what I read here is pretty traditional. Before I started reading stuff on the Internet some years back, I didn’t even know that there were parishes where there were no communion patens, bells and Catholics could receive from the chalice.

 

[Nekic]

Does the paten really HAVE to be used?
My parish doesn’t.
I wish they would.
I’ll suggest it to my new parish priest.
He’ll probably be more suseptible to suggestion…hehehe…

 

[slewi]

Dr. Bombay:

This is important. I’ve noticed that particles of the Sacred Host do actually end up on the paten from time to time. So, they aren’t just for show.

I was also instructed that anytime I have to walk with a paten that’s been used, I should always place my free hand in front of it to prevent any particles from blowing off.

I know you will teach them well, Stephen.

Thanks for the vote of confidence, I’m gonna try. The biggest obstacle seems to be my priest tho’. We have spoken in the past about a few things, such as particles on patens, veiling sacred vessels, and use of a sacrarium, and he told me that one of the reasons for changes in the church is because we were too concerned with the “little things” and missing the big picture.

So that has me concerned. He doesn’t veil the sacred vessels, even tho’ our diocesan cathedral does. I’m worried over what else he might consider a “little thing”.

S

 

[paramedicgirl]

Lux_et_veritas:

As a communicant who receives, at a rail, an intincted Host, with a paten under my chin, I can attest to having seen particles, quite visibly on it as it approached.

I wonder if people ever look at their hand after they receive to notice that sometimes there are particles in the hand.

That is why I and some others now receive communion on the tounge. I found particles on my hand several times, and so did a number of other parishioners. We used to discreetly lick the particles off our palms. Now we receive on the tounge.

 

[Lux_et_veritas]

paramedicgirl:

That is why I and some others now receive communion on the tounge. I found particles on my hand several times, and so did a number of other parishioners. We used to discreetly lick the particles off our palms. Now we receive on the tounge.

I too use to dab my finger and pick up the loose particle. However, keep in mind, that many of us have witnessed particles on the paten itself where people are receiving on the tongue.

This is one reason I wanted to ask people is to create awareness that in parishes that do not use them, all of those particles that break lose as one receives on the tongue, and as people put the Host to their own mouth, fall onto the floor.

It is for this reason that the “paten is to be retained” according to the GIRM.

 

[hilde_the_dog]

My parish reintroduced the use of patens about a year ago. I notice at the Feast of Our Lady of Guadalupe that an alterboy knocked the Eucharist out of the hand of the EMHC, who caught it before it hit the ground. I wanted to see what he did with it, it appeared that he thought about putting it in his pocket, but opted to place it on his hand with the Ciborium on top. He did after communion talk to the celebrant.I never did see who consumed it or what was done.

 

[Corki]

We don’t use them but I am considering giving them as a gift to our pastor. He would probably start using them if he had them.

Where did your pics come from?

 

[Lucania]

Yes, a Paten is used at my Church. The Altar boys do a great job holding the Paten properly, including the younger ones. They appear to take this duty very seriously. My previous Parish did not use a Paten at all.

 

[netmilsmom]

After getting a call from my old parish to do Altar Linens again, I remembered this.
They used glass vessels. When the new documents came out, they knew that they had to buy chalices. The priest had a fit because they had ordered one for $275.00 (pretty cheap in my book). He then found out that it came with a paten and nearly blew a gasket!!!

BTW, I just want to thank CA posters for making me realize that I had never been given an instruction to rinse the Linens before washing them.
Although, after realizing what I had done, my girls were thrilled that “Jesus was in our washing machine and now it is Holy.” I now know to rinse them at the church before bringing them home!!!

 

[Paris_Blues]

No and I think it would be a great idea if they did because if they did, I would have the priest put our Lord on my tongue instead of having me do it myself because I have a small mouth and I’m afraid to have the priest do it because our Lord would drop on the ground

 

[solanus]

I am in the Archdiocese of Detroit:

We did up until about 12 years ago when our parish priest ( who is still there) decided to get rid of them along with the consecration bell , allowed altar girls, EMC’s to wear what ever they wanted, the list goes on…

I really thought he was a “cool” priest until one day I decided to look up one of our old priests ,(Fr Perrone at Assumption Grotto) who I received my first Holy Communion from, and went to watch him celebrate Mass. Now I realize that our “cool” priest was doing nothing more then destroying beutifull traditions.

I now call SS Cyril & Methodius my home parish.

 

[netmilsmom]

solanus:

I am in the Archdiocese of Detroit:

We did up until about 12 years ago when our parish priest ( who is still there) decided to get rid of them along with the consecration bell , allowed altar girls, EMC’s to wear what ever they wanted, the list goes on…

I really thought he was a “cool” priest until one day I decided to look up one of our old priests ,(Fr Perrone at Assumption Grotto) who I received my first Holy Communion from, and went to watch him celebrate Mass. Now I realize that our “cool” priest was doing nothing more then destroying beutifull traditions.

I now call SS Cyril & Methodius my home parish.

Hey!
Aren’t we soooooo Blessed!

 

[netmilsmom]

Paris Blues:

No and I think it would be a great idea if they did because if they did, I would have the priest put our Lord on my tongue instead of having me do it myself because I have a small mouth and I’m afraid to have the priest do it because our Lord would drop on the ground

You can’t possibly have a smaller mouth than my eight year old and the priests do just fine with her. In fact there was a little girl in her class who was the smallest seven year old I had ever seen! Cute as a button she is and her mother dressed her like a little doll from the 30’s for First Communion.
You and the Priest would do just fine!

 

[Lux_et_veritas]

Corki:

We don’t use them but I am considering giving them as a gift to our pastor. He would probably start using them if he had them.

Where did your pics come from?

Did a google search using the words Catholic paten, while it was set to “images”.

 

[Lux_et_veritas]

solanus:

I am in the Archdiocese of Detroit:

We did up until about 12 years ago when our parish priest ( who is still there) decided to get rid of them along with the consecration bell , allowed altar girls, EMC’s to wear what ever they wanted, the list goes on…

I really thought he was a “cool” priest until one day I decided to look up one of our old priests ,(Fr Perrone at Assumption Grotto) who I received my first Holy Communion from, and went to watch him celebrate Mass. Now I realize that our “cool” priest was doing nothing more then destroying beutifull traditions.

I now call SS Cyril & Methodius my home parish.

Solanus - you ought to consider coming to the Orchestral Mass - the last of the Christmas season this Sunday at Grotto’s 9:30 Mass. Get there at 9:00 for some pre-Mass sacred music. 30 member orchestra (mostly DSO members) is playing with the Grotto choir.

End thread drift.

I go to Ss C & M at the 6:00 am Mass most weekdays because Grotto’s is later - too late for work.

 

[Jakub]

Voted NO and can’t remember the last time one was seen or used…probably 30 years ago or so…

james

 

[Pious]

No, unfortunatly our parish does not; but our parish Priest does hold the ciborium under the chin of those of us that do recieve on the tongue (we have about 12 servers at the morning Mass, so why a few can not be used, I do not know).