Does your Priest hold Hands during Pater Noster?

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The rubics for the priest are clear - he is to hold his hands in the Orans position when praying the Our Father. Too often I see that ignored and the priest too is holding hands with altar servers.

What does your priest do?
 
MY priest is obedient. We visited a parish on Sunday where the priest called up all the little kids to the altar & he held hands with them. I though my eyes were going to bleed. :eek:
 
They both looked around and reached back to make sure they hold the altar servers’ hands. One even told us to all hold hands as a sign of our unity. Last weekend was the last weekend for both of them at our parish, however. Both have been reassigned. I’m holding my breath to see how things go with the new pastor.
 
I don’t see why so many NOers have such a big problem with the Priest and people holding hands (yes, it is a fabrication, but what of the NO isn’t?), yet see no problem with hand Communion. That doesn’t follow for me. Holding hands is wrong. Hand Communion is worse. God bless.
 
My visiting priest from the un-orthodox local seminary is very disobedient. Holding hands, EMoHC co communicate, leaving the Sanctuary, Changing the Words, etc…
 
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I don’t see why so many NOers have such a big problem with the Priest and people holding hands (yes, it is a fabrication, but what of the NO isn’t?), yet see no problem with hand Communion. That doesn’t follow for me. Holding hands is wrong. Hand Communion is worse. God bless.
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I will confine my thoughts to the thread at hand:

The reason is that Communion in the hand is offered as an approved option for the United States if chosen by the local Bishop. Holding hands at the Lord’s Prayer is not provided for in the GIRM. Where it is employed (as an accepted part of the liturgy, not as in a family choosing to hold hands as personal devotion) it represents a local addition to the liturgy which is a no-no. I don’t necessarily think that hand holding by the congregation is in itself such a big deal, I think that the rubrics are promulgated for a reason and the Mass should be celebrated in accordance with them.

Thankfully, I have never seen a priest attempt to hold hands during the Lord’s Prayer. They have been in the Orans (along with a fair part of the laity, but that is another issue…).

Blessings.
 
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Thankfully, I have never seen a priest attempt to hold hands during the Lord’s Prayer.
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It’s fairly common in my area. Less common for the priest to invite the people to hold hands too, but it does happen. In our parish, the priest does not, and does not say anything about it one way or the other… but most of the congregation does it anyway.
 
One of the priests in our parish did sometimes hold hands during the Our Father, but this practice quickly ceased when our Archbishop, Cardinal Mahony, gave instructions to all of the parishes in LA that holding hands was no longer permitted. He stated that the *Orans *position was to be used by everyone.
 
No, my parish priest does not hold hands. Saturday evening, though, I went to Mass at a church about 10 miles away and the priest held the server’s hands. The rest of the Mass had several :eek: moments also.

oremus
 
No, none of the priests (or deacons) in our parish hold hands at the Lord’s Prayer.
 
All but one of the priests in my parish hold hands and instruct the congregants to do the same.
 
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deogratias:
The rubics for the priest are clear - he is to hold his hands in the Orans position when praying the Our Father. Too often I see that ignored and the priest too is holding hands with altar servers.

What does your priest do?
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I have never seen any priests in my diocese hold hands. Occasionally, a priest will tell the faithful to do so, but they themselves do not.

John
 
I would like to say the priests don’t know any better but because when the new Bishop attended a Mass at our Parish, no priests held hands with anyone but did it again the following Sunday, I have no choice but to believe they are just being disobedient.

I used to be scandalized that a priest was holding hands with a young lady but in view of todays scandals, I am just as scandalized to see him holding hands with a young man. There still needs to be some separation between the Priest and the people - and he needs to be an example and not just be “one of the guys”.
 
In the TLM, there is a clear-cut difference between the priest and the people. But in the free-for-all that is the NO mass, anything goes. Holding hands is man-centered (humanistic), and calling it “a show of unity” is just a way to deceive the faithful into believing the lie. The priest’s role in the mass has been diluded to the point that they might as well just call themselves protestant ministers
 
Yes my priest does hold hands during the Pater Noster (which is **sung :confused: **). Its kind of amusing to watch him because he eventually starts swaying to the music but he’s always off by a beat or so! 😉 :rotfl:
 
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In the TLM, there is a clear-cut difference between the priest and the people. But in the free-for-all that is the NO mass, anything goes. Holding hands is man-centered (humanistic), and calling it “a show of unity” is just a way to deceive the faithful into believing the lie. The priest’s role in the mass has been diluded to the point that they might as well just call themselves protestant ministers
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In your opinion, of course. 😉
 
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gave instructions to all of the parishes in LA that holding hands was no longer permitted. He stated that the *Orans *position was to be used by everyone.
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Also not allowed if by “everyone” you mean the whole congregation! Does “everyone” call down the Holy Spirit at the Epiklesis?! Does “everyone” give a benediction at the end of Mass? The *orans *position is a sacerdotal posture which specifically connotes sacrifice and only the priest should be in it. Although this seems like the laity trespassing onto ordained territory, I also think things like this are strangely insulting to the congregation as well, as if they were parrots in a pet shop copying the cashier.
 
I shuddered so much on this thread, I think my rectory shook. 🙂

It drives me **nuts ** when I am concelebrating and the main celebrant turns around to take my hand. :mad: What do I do - ignore him and act like I am in some sort of other-world-trance and praying without noticing what is going on? Do I wave him off and cause a possible scandal? :eek:

Usually, I just suck it up an say “well, he’s the main priest at this Mass.” The problem is, I never remember to say something to him later. :tsktsk: I just forget. Big mistake.

I know the abuses drive many lay people crazy. Can you imagine what we priests who are trying to remain faithful are going through? I’ve been ordained 20 years, and my basic response to the recent documents and the new GIRM is “thank you, Rome.” Now I have some specific “ammunition” to deal with some of the “stuff” I see.

God, give me the courage to face up to these things and speak out for Your glory and holiness!!!

And thank God I get the support of my Archbishop!!! :clapping:

Sorry. Can you tell I get a little carried away with these things? :rolleyes:

For those of you who are enduring painful moments. You are in my prayers.
:blessyou:
 
Fr. Frank - I’ll pray for you to be courageous and God Bless you too. Remember St. Thomas More

I also read this today and wondered if it would be sinful to mail it to all the Bishops;) (not yours, not mine and not Colroado Springs)

“The moment we begin to fear the opinions of others and hesitate to tell the truth that is in us, and from motives of policy are silent when we should speak, the divine floods of light and life no longer flow into our souls.”
Elizabeth Cady Stanton (1815 - 1902), 1890
 
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