Doing what a spouse asks

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Well, when my wife does something for me, like make a sandwich for lunch or something, man, that’s something she’s doing for me. I never thought about telling her HOW to do it! Beggars can’t be choosers and all.

When I make the bed or something, my wife used to go behind me and straight it because it wasn’t perfect. AndI was the one in the Army! We’ve mellowed now. If one of us graciously does something for the other (and that’s what we’re talking about) then the other should keep quiet unless safety or something important is involved.
 
Oh I didn’t mean it this way. Gee whiz! :rolleyes:

There sure is a lot of hostility in this CATHOLIC forum 😦 I thought this was supposed to be a nice Christian/Catholic place.
My comment wasn’t hostile; sorry if you took it that way.

And sorry if I jumped the gun but (to me) your one quick reply didn’t seem appropriate when she just mentioned they’re having bigger problems…

Anyway, welcome to CAF! Don’t let my response turn you off. We’re really some great people here. 🙂

PS - Just so others know I’m not a bag 🙂 I must comment that what I quoted you said was all you had originally said, which was why I took it out of context - as though the scripture would solve her problems. Only after my post did you go back and edit yourself - and your new comment sounds much better, by the way. 👍 😉
 
I find it disturbing that some people tell other people how to do things which they:
  1. Don’t do themselves
  2. Don’t even see being done
  3. Can’t back up with any arguments suggesting a different outcome
Personally, I believe that if someone can’t come up with any difference in the effect, or in the cost of operation, or the time spent, he should get a grip of himself and let those who do things do it their way. Unless maybe it affects him more than it does other people.

Let’s say I want to peel the potatoes using the peeler, but someone wants me to use a knife instead. Since there’s practically no difference in the outcome, the potatoes won’t come any faster if I use a knife, I conclude the request is not rational and I’m not going to heed it.

On the other hand, someone’s bugging me about the proper way of doing something he has more expertise in than I do. Since he’s the expert, let him be the boss so long as he isn’t obviously making things up and being annoying.

Same way if I were making someone a coffee and he wanted it done some particularly odd way, well, that would be his coffee, so who am I to interfere. If he wants it with pepper or lemon, it’s his right - he drinks it.

Cutting meat this way or that way affects all those who will eat it (in terms of looks and taste). As such a single person out of those shouldn’t normally have the authority to make the decision. Therefore such a request is dictatorial. As such, I’d be naturally inclined to oppose it, on principle. Unless it came from a cook, a housewife, I don’t know… anyone with any claim to authority in the matter. But not just one of the “eaters” wanting his way. He isn’t an expert (unless he is), he isn’t the sole person affected, he isn’t the boss, either.

Don’t get me wrong… I would even wear something my company thought I looked nice in, just to make them happy. But I don’t think it’s good to be ordered around by people who have neither the authority to do so, nor the expertise to know what they’re talking about.

If I were in a situation like yours, I would never bow down to unreasonable “orders” (strong requests), not even once for the sake of avoiding conflict. Avoiding precedents, not giving false hopes of a permanent ordering-around, and all. However, I would pay special attention to treating the person’s legitimate wishes with all due consideration and leaving the person enough of a decisive role in his life and in the life we shared. Some people will make such unreasonable requests to mark their influence, others will do it to assert control. If they assert control, I suppose they must meet opposition (I may be wrong), but if they want to mark their influence, make sure they have some part in decision-making, then I would allow them. I would also try to be compassionate towards polite, meek requests (“would you be so kind as to…”, “please…”, “would you mind if we…”). I sometimes go as far as training people in this kind of thing if I can’t get along with how they handle it. Sometimes it works. People can be surprisingly logical if you show them something they’ve been missing so far.

My reasoning is this: sometimes the wife does something the husband can’t, sometimes it goes the other way round. But the two are affected at each time. It’s not really right or necessary that the “maker” should always dictate how it’s done. As in the electronics work the guy’s way, food’s done the lady’s way and so on. Doesn’t have to be like that. It’s no wonder people want to have a say in things they don’t do personally, but are affected by. Now, if it doesn’t make practical difference or if it’s a barked order and not a polite request, well, that’s bad.

Now, keep in mind I’m no psychologist. I’m a lawyer, I concentrate on what people have the right to, what’s reasonable and similar criteria. I may occasionally miss some emotional stuff and that might be the case with your husband. Guys can be emotional too.
 
My husband doesn’t like how I do laundry, so we each do our own. And his way to load the dishwasher is quite different from the way I load it, so we take turns doing dishes. My cousin’s husband, on the other hand, is more controlling - telling her how to do things but not helping her do them - everything has to be HIS way.

I think the line can be drawn at the amount of cooperation that goes on and how demanding/particular the spouse is in other areas of married life.
 
I really like some of the responses given, I am a man and can say with all honesty I never nitpicked anything like that, matter of fact am extremely greatful its being done and not by me,
I did request a few things when it came to certain foods, a prime example stuffing on thanksgiving, I grew up with lots of sage in the stuffing, well the wife grew up with basically soggy bread no flavor stuffing, so i asked if she could make up a separate bowl that would get basted every now and then with lots of sage never asked her to change her tastes, just accomodate my particular one is all, still wasnt mom and grandmas stuffing but was better than soggy bread in large lumps lol…

By the way he nit picks how things are done make him demonstarate a few months I am sure the nit picking will go away he is nit picking now and will continue to do so simply because you are giving him his way all the time, has to be give and take by both and compromise

good luck

my normally useless 2 cents
 
The comedian Bill Engvall does a bit on his “Here’s your Sign” DVD about loading the dishwasher… let’s just say I was roaring and my wife was steaming! He pegged our situation (and obviously his) to a “T”!

(In answer to your question - I don’t touch the “loading” phase of the dishwasher. I stopped after about the 20th time of watching my wife re-arrange everything.)

It all depends upon how the request was asked - not how the demand was ordered.
 
Men are mysterious, aren’t they? I also have a husband who prefers the dishwasher loaded a certain way - he constantlyr reprimands the kids (and me) to do it correctly so the dishes get cleaner…he may have a point. As to other issues of his con-
trolling nature, I pretend I’m listening (which I am) but then do as I want. He doesn’t seem to notice. He, on the other hand, ALWAYS, does things the way he wants. That causes problems.Needless to say, we have our issues…but still married. ha ha ha…not really funny. Good luck and pray for God’s mercy on us all!😃
 
Men are mysterious, aren’t they
Men!!! What about those estrogen driven aliens that inhabit the planet!!! I’m looking for “seed pods” in the backyard with my DD who’s 14-1/2!.. Who stole my baby girl??
 
Men!!! What about those estrogen driven aliens that inhabit the planet!!! I’m looking for “seed pods” in the backyard with my DD who’s 14-1/2!.. Who stole my baby girl??
rofl

too funny but the person whom stole your baby girl is named puberty if you find him let me know cause I want to break his knee caps, arms and legs then maybe cause him a lil pain as well 😉

oh yes I am a bad Catholic I get mad, i dont get even , not even close I go far beyond what would be considered even…
 
I suffered from a lot of boundary-overstepping in my early life …

My response would be a combination of 1) something along the lines of that sign you see in shops, “Customer Service Dependent on Customer Attitude” and 2) the answer to the question, “would this behaviour be reasonable/acceptable/normal in a work colleague or the man next door?” 😃
 
If your husband told you how to wash the dishes, would you do it his way?
I would hand him the dishrag and tell him to have a good time doing it his way.
Would you load the dishwasher his way?
NOPE. I would back my little butt out of the kitchen and tell him it’s ALL HIS!
If he told you how to wash the grill utensils and put them back, would you do it?
Well since I am no longer doing the dishes or loading the dishwasher, these would be left for him to do “his way” as well.
If he wanted the chicken in his pasta cut diagonal rather than cubed, would you do it?
I would probably start the water boiling for the pasta, leave the ingredients on the counter to be helpful, but then I would tell him I was very much looking forward to dinner done “his way.” Now, if he was asking because he really likes it this way and then goes out of his way to do something special and nice for you, ok, give and take. That’s marriage, but considering this just seems like an extension of the already rampant anal-retentiveness, I would not do it.
How far does one go?
Well I see two levels of how “far” this could go. It depends how much of YOUR job you want to take back, or to make your husband understand that as long as the job GET’S DONE, it’s nothing to be persnickety about. I would mention casually that I don’t come to HIS workplace and tell him how HIS job should be done. If he didn’t “get it” with this polite conversation, I would actually SHOW UP at his work and start re-arranging his desk/workspace and nag him for a good hour about how he’s not doing his job correctly to MY standards. I think anybody could understand this logic – no matter how anal-retentive they are! Done in good-humor this could be a hilareous turning point for the good in your marriage.
Where is the line? —KCT
The line has already been crossed. How far do you wanna push the line BACK into neutral territory?
 
Some funny stuff in this thread.

My take on this issue (accepted long ago by Miss Bonnie) was unashamedly borrowed from Capt. Queeg of The Caine Mutiny:

“There are four ways to do this task–the right way, the wrong way, your way, and my way. If I have to do it, I’m going to do it my way. If you want it done your way, do it yourself.”
 
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