Doubts during prayer

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I’m rather scrupulous, and something I’ve really been struggling with lately is doubting God, Mary’s intercession, and the faith generally, during prayer. When I begin praying I instantly lose all feeling of faith–it feels like it just drains out of me, and I’m just mumbling words. Deep down, of course, I do believe what I’m saying, but I feel so weird saying those words when my surface thoughts and feelings don’t believe them. Do you have any advice for this? I often pause to correct the doubts, but then I get bogged down in a circular kind of argument with myself. Should I just keep praying even when I don’t feel like I believe what I’m saying?

Thanks for your help.
 
I think you should start praying (if you don’t already) in a private quiet space and audibly say what’s on your heart to God. No formalities, no rubrics… I would just speak from your heart even if you feel silly.

Speak to God like you would anyone you’re trying to have a conversation with.

Lord, I’ve been having a hard day…X is what happened …i’ve been feeling like X , I also want to speak with you about our relationship…this is where I sit Lord ( and tell him how you feel, what you don’t understand etc etc ) tell him that you don’t sense His presence in your life…talk to him like a real person from your heart. Ask him to reveal himself in your life.

Lastly, don’t put so much emphasis on feelings. As a matter of fact, if you can push through these “dry” periods (that come to us all from time to time)… you will increase in the spiritual life. In your talk to God…tell Him that you will accept this if need be to show that you want a real relationship and not just “feelings” or divine aid all the time…you pray because you want to show your fidelity and trust in God.

Fight through this. I would make a special time daily to literally talk to God .
 
I think you should start praying (if you don’t already) in a private quiet space and audibly say what’s on your heart to God. No formalities, no rubrics… I would just speak from your heart even if you feel silly.

Speak to God like you would anyone you’re trying to have a conversation with.

Lord, I’ve been having a hard day…X is what happened …i’ve been feeling like X , I also want to speak with you about our relationship…this is where I sit Lord ( and tell him how you feel, what you don’t understand etc etc ) tell him that you don’t sense His presence in your life…talk to him like a real person from your heart. Ask him to reveal himself in your life.

Lastly, don’t put so much emphasis on feelings. As a matter of fact, if you can push through these “dry” periods (that come to us all from time to time)… you will increase in the spiritual life. In your talk to God…tell Him that you will accept this if need be to show that you want a real relationship and not just “feelings” or divine aid all the time…you pray because you want to show your fidelity and trust in God.

Fight through this. I would make a special time daily to literally talk to God .
***~Absolutely~ :***thumbsup:
 
I think you should start praying (if you don’t already) in a private quiet space and audibly say what’s on your heart to God. No formalities, no rubrics… I would just speak from your heart even if you feel silly.

Speak to God like you would anyone you’re trying to have a conversation with.

Lord, I’ve been having a hard day…X is what happened …i’ve been feeling like X , I also want to speak with you about our relationship…this is where I sit Lord ( and tell him how you feel, what you don’t understand etc etc ) tell him that you don’t sense His presence in your life…talk to him like a real person from your heart. Ask him to reveal himself in your life.

This is excellent advice! Let me add: everyone has doubts and “dry periods”. I’ve read that, when God is THAT close, it’s rather like looking at oneself in a mirror with one’s face pressed against the mirror: distortion. But it’s my lifelong experience that God communicates with us (and I know others who would attest to this, and am sure many in this forum would, also). I posit that each of us has a unique “language” that God uses for this communication and that it’s part of the work of Life to recognize this. Some may call them “signs”, I have always called them “come along signals”. When I lapse into doubt, I recall the thousands of “come along signals” I’ve received throughout my life. Why not start a journal and see if you can translate the language God is using with YOU?

The way to “ceaseless prayer” is exactly as was said in the above quoted answer. He is IN your thoughts, IN your mind and soul, and knows before you do - hard to imagine I know. Ceaseless prayer is a running dialogue, just as suggested in the above quoted answer: “My prayer is hitting the ceiling…” God knows this. “Are you there?” God knows this. Jesus told us how much greater the reward for believing without having seen, but we CAN “see” if we allow the Holy Spirit to work. You can pray TO the Holy Spirit. My friend Deacon Arney says he’s been doing this for the past few weeks and the answers he’s gotten are fantastic. Why not try it?

Lastly, don’t put so much emphasis on feelings. As a matter of fact, if you can push through these “dry” periods (that come to us all from time to time)… you will increase in the spiritual life. In your talk to God…tell Him that you will accept this if need be to show that you want a real relationship and not just “feelings” or divine aid all the time…you pray because you want to show your fidelity and trust in God.

Fight through this. I would make a special time daily to literally talk to God .
 
I’m rather scrupulous, and something I’ve really been struggling with lately is doubting God, Mary’s intercession, and the faith generally, during prayer. When I begin praying I instantly lose all feeling of faith–it feels like it just drains out of me, and I’m just mumbling words. Deep down, of course, I do believe what I’m saying, but I feel so weird saying those words when my surface thoughts and feelings don’t believe them. Do you have any advice for this? I often pause to correct the doubts, but then I get bogged down in a circular kind of argument with myself. Should I just keep praying even when I don’t feel like I believe what I’m saying?

Thanks for your help.
Do not pay attention to your feelings; they are always changing and will lead you astray. It took me years upon years to get away from feelings. God gave me many consolations and I became addicted to them. When he took them away, it was awful and caused me years of untold misery and conflict with God. I finally learned that you love God by faith and will, not by feelings. The sooner that you come to terms with this the better. God does not want you to love him because he gives you “goodies” (consolations in some form). He wants you to love Him for who he is, not for what he gives. Do not depend on your feeling, exercise your will. You follow God by an act of the will. In doing this it will not matter if God gives you consolations or if you experience dry periods.
 
Another suggestion is that when the absence of feelings occur, think of all those who long to feel God’s presence, unite yourself to them and pray for their refreshment. Turn your dryness into intercessory prayer. Make an offering. Maybe say, “Lord, I give away the consolations, that are my right as Your child, and I ask that you give them to someone who does not know you yet so they may receive them and therefore experience You. I ask that you give consolation to those who need it the most. This is my gift to You. I am confident of our relationship and I am confident of Your love for me. Please send consolation to the grieving, despairing, and lost. Send me consolation if I am the one in most need. I know You keep your promises to never leave me even if my senses cannot perceive you.”

Rather than ignore your feelings or lack there of, listen to them as though God is trying to tell you something. Maybe He is indicating that there is a soul who needs you to pray for them, that their hardened heart might be softened, that their lonely heart might be visited. What better way to pray for another than to be able to experience their need in yourself.
 
Have you thought about praying from your heart. Perhaps before, try to have so much gratitude and love that you will connect with God, Jesus and Mother Mary. Why, don’t you talk to them, and let them know how you feel, they know your heart anyway.

Pray them even that they help you to have faith, hope and charity.

Blessings and love!
 
Thanks for everybody’s help. It really does help a lot.

My struggle isn’t so much with mental prayer or spontaneous, heart-to-God kind of prayer. It’s more about the Rosary and scripted prayer. My brain “checks” everything I"m saying to make sure that I really believe it, and inevitably I get lost in a spiral of doubt. I’ll be praying my “Hail Marys” and I’ll literally think and feel that I don’t believe any of it. When I’m not praying, I can clearly think, feel, and say that I do believe it all, but while praying it’s the opposite. It’s so incredibly difficult to continue praying even in the absence of what–here it is again–feel like faith.
 
I have not had that specific problem tho I have had many a distraction.
When you pray the rosary, specifically the Hail Mary, are you thinking about the Hail Mary or are you thinking about the mystery?

I don’t think about the prayer at all. It is completely in the background. I concentrate on the mystery itself. Here are some cites that may help.
Thoughts for each decade of the rosary, for each bead.
rosary-center.org/joyful.htm
rosary-center.org/luminous.htm
rosary-center.org/glorious.htm
rosary-center.org/sorrow.htm

History of the Rosary
catholicapologetics.org/ap080600.htm

You can try Methods of saying the Rosary by St. Louis de Montfort
montfort.org.uk/Writings/MSR.html

Scriptural rosary
ainglkiss.com/ros/sr.htm

How to say and pray the rosary
familyrosary.org/en/TheRosary.aspx

Thoughts for each decade of the rosary
rosary-center.org/howto.htm

Scriptual thoughts
how-to-pray-the-rosary-everyday.com/military-victories-through-the-rosary.html

Pray the rosary in 17 minutes with online audio.
catholicity.com/cds/rosary.html
 
Thanks for everybody’s help. It really does help a lot.

My struggle isn’t so much with mental prayer or spontaneous, heart-to-God kind of prayer. It’s more about the Rosary and scripted prayer. My brain “checks” everything I"m saying to make sure that I really believe it, and inevitably I get lost in a spiral of doubt. I’ll be praying my “Hail Marys” and I’ll literally think and feel that I don’t believe any of it. When I’m not praying, I can clearly think, feel, and say that I do believe it all, but while praying it’s the opposite. It’s so incredibly difficult to continue praying even in the absence of what–here it is again–feel like faith.
Don’t focus so much on how you “feel” during prayer, you are focusing on “you.” Just focus on Jesus or Mary and how they are “feeling” during your prayer.
 
Thanks for everybody’s help. It really does help a lot.

My struggle isn’t so much with mental prayer or spontaneous, heart-to-God kind of prayer. It’s more about the Rosary and scripted prayer. My brain “checks” everything I"m saying to make sure that I really believe it, and inevitably I get lost in a spiral of doubt. I’ll be praying my “Hail Marys” and I’ll literally think and feel that I don’t believe any of it. When I’m not praying, I can clearly think, feel, and say that I do believe it all, but while praying it’s the opposite. It’s so incredibly difficult to continue praying even in the absence of what–here it is again–feel like faith.
About reducing the speed of your prayer. On each prayer, let it be said from your heart, you will feel the connection as you continue to practice. I think the danger is to go into robot mode. John-Paul II recommended to meditate 2 min after announcing the mystery.

You could also simply ask Mother Mary to assist you with this.

All the best!
 
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