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Thanks. I just printed it out and put it into the envellope.
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PsalmChanter
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In my previous parish we got either rocks in the Holy Water fonts, or the bowls removed and little pieces of purple tulle tied to hang where the bowls had been. (!)
In another parish I visited, they had filled the Holy Water fonts with sand, and in the homily for that day, the pastor complained about his flock who didn’t like the sand or that he had moved the Sign of Peace to the very beginning of Mass. He made the comment that he would put Cheerios in the fonts if he could. (!!)
Luckily, we attend a Tridentine (1962 Indult, actually) Mass, so we don’t have to deal with any of these innovations anymore. It’s amazing how much more able I am to strive toward holiness when I’m not screaming mad by the end of Mass. :-> (Sorry to use text emoticons, but I can’t figure out how to insert the smilies.)
In another parish I visited, they had filled the Holy Water fonts with sand, and in the homily for that day, the pastor complained about his flock who didn’t like the sand or that he had moved the Sign of Peace to the very beginning of Mass. He made the comment that he would put Cheerios in the fonts if he could. (!!)
Luckily, we attend a Tridentine (1962 Indult, actually) Mass, so we don’t have to deal with any of these innovations anymore. It’s amazing how much more able I am to strive toward holiness when I’m not screaming mad by the end of Mass. :-> (Sorry to use text emoticons, but I can’t figure out how to insert the smilies.)
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gam197
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I remember when we has the Latin masses in the 50 and 60’s during each Lenten season that every church removed holy water and cover the fonts with purple cloth. It really made you miss the holiness of holy water although I don’t why they did it.
For years I had not seen the practice until recently when one priest did such and I thought it was finally a return to traditional reverence. Anyone else remember those days?
For years I had not seen the practice until recently when one priest did such and I thought it was finally a return to traditional reverence. Anyone else remember those days?
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Sand and Rocks in the holy water fonts almost sound like new age. In the 50 and 60’s during Lent, I also remember at some churches that the statues were covered in purple cloth. I am unsure about the crucifix, it could have been covered. I am not if sure if this covering of statues was done at all churches.
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Tired
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“No, the liturgy committee was finally instructed not to deprive Catholics of a sacramental like holy water during Lent. Besides, tourists were using the sand-filled fonts as ashtrays.”
That’s my choice.
That’s my choice.
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Checked with a few other people on this, and I was wrong ** about the holy water being covered during the Latin mass. The Holy water was not covered.** I guess it was the statues including the clucifix that were covered in purple cloth and apparently only on Good Friday.
I have seen the holy water covered at churches a few times in later years in the same purple cloth so it must have just brought back the memories of the purple cloth.
I have seen the holy water covered at churches a few times in later years in the same purple cloth so it must have just brought back the memories of the purple cloth.
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Found this on EWTN on statues…
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covering of statues during lent
Question from Franca Lunelli on 3/25/2006:
Could you please tell me why some churches cover the statues and the cross during lent with purple cloth.
My grandson asked a priest but he only said because it was the lenten season. There must be a deeper answer.
This was always done when I was a child and not some churches do and others don’t.
Thank you for your time and answer. God Bless, Franca
Answer by Rev. Mark J. Gantley, JCL on 3/26/2006:
The rubric in the Sacramentary (Roman Missal) states: “The practice of covering crosses and images in the church may be observed, if the episcopal confernece decides. The crosses are to be covered until the end of the celebration of the Lord’s passion on Good Friday. Images are to remain covered until the beginning of the Easter vigil.”
So this practice is dependent upon the decision of the bishops’ conference of a given country.
However, the covering is not done throughout all of Lent. The crosses (crucifixes) are to be covered only from the Fifth Sunday of Lent until Good Friday (as the rubric states), and other images are to be covered only from the Fifth Sunday of Lent until the Easter vigil.
The purpose of covering the crosses is to emphasize it being revealed on Good Friday. The purpose of covering other images is to take the focus off the images and focus the attention of the people on the central mysteries of our faith – the death and resurrection of Jesus.
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covering of statues during lent
Question from Franca Lunelli on 3/25/2006:
Could you please tell me why some churches cover the statues and the cross during lent with purple cloth.
My grandson asked a priest but he only said because it was the lenten season. There must be a deeper answer.
This was always done when I was a child and not some churches do and others don’t.
Thank you for your time and answer. God Bless, Franca
Answer by Rev. Mark J. Gantley, JCL on 3/26/2006:
The rubric in the Sacramentary (Roman Missal) states: “The practice of covering crosses and images in the church may be observed, if the episcopal confernece decides. The crosses are to be covered until the end of the celebration of the Lord’s passion on Good Friday. Images are to remain covered until the beginning of the Easter vigil.”
So this practice is dependent upon the decision of the bishops’ conference of a given country.
However, the covering is not done throughout all of Lent. The crosses (crucifixes) are to be covered only from the Fifth Sunday of Lent until Good Friday (as the rubric states), and other images are to be covered only from the Fifth Sunday of Lent until the Easter vigil.
The purpose of covering the crosses is to emphasize it being revealed on Good Friday. The purpose of covering other images is to take the focus off the images and focus the attention of the people on the central mysteries of our faith – the death and resurrection of Jesus.
COPYRIGHT 2006
ewtn.com/vexperts/showmessage.asp?Pgnu=1&Pg=Forum9&recnu=2&number=464855
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Missourian
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Actually I thought about that, however this past week I was in a large church frequently vistited by the bishop and located 30 miles from the cathedral. The font (actually a baptismal pool as the parish is a “modern” one
) was dry there too. I can only presume the bishop does not care.My business partner inquired about the issue via e-mail with the diocesean liturgy director and has received (surprise, surprise) no response. If the shepherds don’t care there is not much one can do other than some of the other clandestine suggestions offered in this thread.
This stuff disgusts me and I am really tired of reading our parish administrator’s “cute” little cards in the fonts advising the unwashed and ignorant laity of her reasons for having dry fonts.
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gam197
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Like this response.but may have trouble-need to ask the Pastor or a friendly priest first.
( I recently went to a church where the priest would not say the Creed during mass. For weeks, I would make a fool of myself and complain to any parishioner near me after the close of mass or in parking lot that again the Creed was not said. Many hadn’t even notice and some said they would talk with him. Also I did call the Bishop office. As of now he does say the Creed. )
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