'Draw Muhammad' contest planned in Phoenix

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Path_Finder said:
It’s not an anti-Islam event, it’s a pro-free speech, pro-truth protest.

I haven’t seen the drawings, I hear there were 2 that were turned in.

I do believe that there is legitimate criticism that can be made from cartoons. Political cartoons, sorry if some people do not believe that when it comes to religion.

If we were to follow this true don’t offend others, then, we would need to take out any portraits of Jesus in the Church. There is no way I am going to believe that.
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Nobody is disputing the right to free speech includes the right to be stupid , hateful and intolerant .
 
Exiled_Child said:
I believe it’s no mere coincidence that it’s the ruder, more troll-like individuals on CAF who are the most gung-ho about this event. For what is this whole anti-Islam provocation but a real life troll event? I couldn’t stomach reading more than a few random posts in this thread, but Catholics should be ashamed of themselves for supporting such venomous, mean-spirited filth.
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Between the Mohammed cartoon threads and the thread on the Duggers I really wonder how much lower CAF can go . I have never seen such vitriol and hatred expressed in my over a decade on CAF .
 
estesbob said:
So are you suggesting that all Muslim citizens of United States be stripped of their citizenship and be deported unless they take a religious test of your liking ?
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No, actually there is one alternative to that, which is to force them to become complacent with a population that refuses to acknowledge their laws. The way we do that is more drawing contests. 👍
 
estesbob said:
Between the Mohammed cartoon threads and the thread on the Duggers I really wonder how much lower CAF can go . I have never seen such vitriol and hatred expressed in my over a decade on CAF .
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Yeah, I agree completely. It’s strange in a way, because I’ve found that CAF’s “be charitable” policy has had a very positive effect on my overall internet demeanor. I find that I’m much more mindful and tolerant on other websites now because of it. I suspect there are probably others who have experienced the same sort of thing.
 
Exiled_Child said:
Yeah, I agree completely. It’s strange in a way, because I’ve found that CAF’s “be charitable” policy has had a very positive effect on my overall internet demeanor. I find that I’m much more mindful and tolerant on other websites now because of it. I suspect there are probably others who have experienced the same sort of thing.
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I dont go on other forums. In fact, I’m overly cautious on any books or reading material as not to corrupt my conscience. I believe it’s important to choose your influences rather than let them choose you.
 
TEPO said:
I dont go on other forums. In fact, I’m overly cautious on any books or reading material as not to corrupt my conscience. I believe it’s important to choose your influences rather than let them choose you.
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It’s better to censor what comes out than it is to censor what comes in. The internet is a useful tool, but it fosters a sort of waking sleep that makes it very easy to lose oneself. It somehow desensitizes us while simultaneously disinhibiting us. We end up saying things we would never say in real life. I don’t know, I just think CAF has somehow had a civilizing effect on me, internet-wise I mean.
 
estesbob said:
Between the Mohammed cartoon threads and the thread on the Duggers I really wonder how much lower CAF can go . I have never seen such vitriol and hatred expressed in my over a decade on CAF .
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Pope JPII has kissed the Koran indicating his belief that the Koran contains much that is worthy of recognition and respect.
 
Tomdstone said:
Pope JPII has kissed the Koran indicating his belief that the Koran contains much that is worthy of recognition and respect.
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Nobody knows what his intentions were on that. It could be that he was attempting to bless the hearts of those who attempt to interpret it by sealing the book with a papal kiss. Who really knows. 🤷

…in any case, he was doing something good -not necessarily indicating any sort of hidden message for Catholics to respect the koran or something.
 
HolyCrusader007 said:
In short I dont believe a Christian can be a Christianist and I dont believe a Muslim can be a Islamist.

I would say one can be a Christian or Muslim for example.
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I have no idea whether a Christian can be a Christianist or not, because I am unfamiliar with the term.
As for whether Muslims can be Islamists, the fact is that there are Islamists, such as Muslim Brotherhood, Hamas, Ayotollahs of Iran, Boko Haram, ISIS, El Qaeda, etc. etc.

It is well defined by the actions and attitudes of these people, who call themselves Muslims.Discussing whether they are Muslims or not is like discussing whether or not Obama is a Christian or Pelosi is a Catholic.

But as long as Boko Haram exists, and draws upon Islamic holy texts and holy traditions, and as long as Boko Haram is fundamentally different that other forms of Islam, then distinguishing Islamism from Islam is a useful exercise.
The definition itself is well enough known, and well enough established that real communication is possible by using this term.
danielpipes.org/954/distinguishing-between-islam-and-islamism

If people want to use some other term to distinguish Islamism from Islam, that is fine too. Understand though, that there are terms that accurately describe the phemenon that are not allowed in CAF.
 
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