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My Irish American grandmother taught me it helps to laugh at our misery.:crying: Because its another example of the decline in Catholic teaching.
My Irish American grandmother taught me it helps to laugh at our misery.:crying: Because its another example of the decline in Catholic teaching.
No, it wasn’t a joke. I could tell from his tone, body language, and his wife agreeing that we looked nice. He totally meant well. I don’t think for one second he was intentionally trying to disregard the sanctity of the Mass.Could it be the man was making a joke??? When someone at work looks especially nice, we ask if he has a job interview that day.
Perhaps, the dress code used by the Vatican at St. Peter’s should be used in all Houses of God, i.e. men in pants, no hats and long sleeves I believe and women in clothes that cover their shoulders and something that at least covers the knees, maybe it’s changed I dont know, that’s I rememberSpeaking of dressing up for Mass has anyone started experience the literal dressing down of women in Mass? Sometimes I see young women/teenagers dressing in provocative ways. And by provocative I mean really short skirts, shirts that barely hold their chests, and clothes that allow for the easy view of their underwear or other naughty parts, hahaha.
After seeing the way some of the women at my church dress jeans and t-shirt don’t seem so bad.
Respectfully,
Mark
Yes I have seen it and I don’t like it. I guess we’re supposed to be thrilled they are at least among us.Speaking of dressing up for Mass has anyone started experience the literal dressing down of women in Mass? Sometimes I see young women/teenagers dressing in provocative ways. And by provocative I mean really short skirts, shirts that barely hold their chests, and clothes that allow for the easy view of their underwear or other naughty parts, hahaha.
After seeing the way some of the women at my church dress jeans and t-shirt don’t seem so bad.
Respectfully,
Mark
I agree with you 100%, the priests should gently let them know what is acceptable. There is that portion of the congregation also that is poor and can only wear certain clothes. So it has to be know that they are to please wear there best and length etc. How this is to be done I’m not sure I guess from the pulpit as it used to be.Bless you and your family!!!
I know that not all people dress up for Mass anymore but who to blame…???
We can’t blame the people because they may not know about Church’s rulings on proper church attire.
The NOM is one factor, but the priest has the responsibilty to teach/preach the Word of God. I don’t mean to blame them, but they should know how to run the church and shepherd his flocks.
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Keep up the holy work!!!
May God bless you and keep you!!!
Pax
Laudater Jesus Christo
Instaurare omnia in Christo
I think we are living the logical conclusion of decades of “do your own thing” in so many things, including church attire. Wearing modest clothing, both in quantity and quality, is indeed important. Decollatages or exposed thighs can take minds off the liturgy and onto fellow worshippers’ bodies. (One may say that we all should be expected to be praying and not observing each other at mass, but is there a person who can honestly say they have not had their attention drawn to someone in the Communion line, or in other situations during Mass?)I agree with you 100%, the priests should gently let them know what is acceptable. There is that portion of the congregation also that is poor and can only wear certain clothes. So it has to be know that they are to please wear there best and length etc. How this is to be done I’m not sure I guess from the pulpit as it used to be.
That’s really what it comes down to—respect for the Mass and why we’re there. It is interesting that the most common arguments against dressing respectfully for the Mass all boil down to, “I don’t want to and you can’t make me.”I think we are living the logical conclusion of decades of “do your own thing” in so many things, including church attire. Wearing modest clothing, both in quantity and quality, is indeed important. Decollatages or exposed thighs can take minds off the liturgy and onto fellow worshippers’ bodies. (One may say that we all should be expected to be praying and not observing each other at mass, but is there a person who can honestly say they have not had their attention drawn to someone in the Communion line, or in other situations during Mass?)
Jesus’ teaching does apply to this thread (Matthew 5:19, “You have heard that it was said, ‘You shall not commit adultery.’ But I say to you, everyone who looks at a woman with lust has already committed adultery with her in his heart”; Matthew 18:9, And if your eye causes you to sin, tear it out and throw it away.")
As to inappropriate garb that attracts attention because it’s incongruous with attending Holy Mass (athletic gear, beachwear, torn/dirty/faded clothes, for example), Jesus said, “Stop judging, that you may not be judged. For as you judge, so will you be judged, and the measure with which you measure will be measured out to you.” Matthew 7:1-2. The consequences of our actions can indeed make trouble for not only ourselves, but those worshipping as well–not only may we judge, but can lead others into judgment as well. We must do all we can to make sure attention is focused on the altar, not on fellow parishoners.
Therefore, it is imerative that the leadership of the church, from the Vatican, through the NCCB, to diocesan bishops and priests take up their responsibility to teach their flocks what can be done to minimize distraction and even sin, because improper clothing can lead to lust as well as distraction and judgmentalism. I don’t know how these concepts are included in seminary training as the expression of our core beliefs, but if they haven’t been focused on, this is a good place to start. Because they’ve grown up in the secular modern US society, we can’t count on our young priests having been raised knowing what modest/appropriate clothing consists of and its importance, and so instruct their future parishoners.
Wearing appropriately respectful (i.e., business casual) clothes also minimizes the distraction (and sometimes shock) value that short, tight, revealing or incongruous/inappropriate clothes have. I am speaking of the trends that have been apparent for years in our generally middle-class American cultural milieu; charity demands withholding judgment of individuals, as they may already be wearing their “Sunday best.” This subject also calls for an attitude of “Forgive them Father, they know not what they do.” There are deep issues involved in the apparent superficial acts and discussion of what we wear to public worship.
I’m with you. And I’m glad that I’m old enough that I can wear a sweater or shawl year-round and nobody thinks it’s odd. Our church’s air conditioning system is not very-well controlled, and sometimes it is downright cold in there. Anyone who attends regularly knows they will need to dress a bit warmer for church, but of course, some would rather be “fashionable” than comfortable anyway. But it does cut down on the spaghetti-strap tops and miniskirts, at least somewhat.I’ve seen girls wear skirts to mass with their rearends and rather voluptuous breasts practically falling out of little tank tops. If that’s the only thing they own, at least let them wear a shaw or something…If I have a top that is sleeveless, I always wrap a shaw around me or wear a sweater for modesty’s sake.