Drinking juice in Mass and other "rudeness" - blog post

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It’s is a good reminder of how we shouldn’t judge what we see without knowing said persons situation. Thanks for posting it.
 
No skin off my nose if they keep to themselves.

What I don’t like are children with crackers making a mess. Children or adults who have personal space issues and don’t stop when asked. Devices that make noise.

Last Christmas mass there was a terribly behaved little boy maybe 7 or 8. Kept poking my toddler even after we asked him not to touch her. His parents gave him nuts to quiet him and he started throwing them at her. She ate one before I could get her. She’s not allergic to nuts but it would of killed my friends kid. I was livid at the parents and I said “you need to stop” very harshly. He didn’t and so I took her out of Mass or held her for the rest of the time.

I am very understanding of special needs kids. Electrionics (on silent), drink, not messy food. Whatever.

Just don’t bother me. That’s all I ask.
 
I think a problem is there are so many bad parents who don’t properly discipline their children, and poorly disciplined adults, that it is hard sometimes to know whether certain actions are disrespectful or a necessary exception for a person facing challenges. It is just a fact that kids today do things that I or any other child was never allowed to do.
 
Of course it depends. Under 3 or 4 I think its pretty normal. However once they get old enough to be taught (and are capable of being taught) they should not have it and should be still.
 
This is a great reminder for when our first impulse is to think the worst of people.

If that doesn’t work, keep in mind the words of St. Josemaría Escrivá:

Don’t say: ‘That person gets on my nerves.’ Think: ‘That person sanctifies me.’
 
exnihilo said:
I think a problem is there are so many bad parents who don’t properly discipline their children, and poorly disciplined adults, that it is hard sometimes to know whether certain actions are disrespectful or a necessary exception for a person facing challenges. It is just a fact that kids today do things that I or any other child was never allowed to do.
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Well, we also have a better understanding of things like autism and down syndrome. In the past those kids were hidden or beaten into submission.

So not all things are as simple “when I was a kid, no one was allowed to do that”.

Yes, parenting factors in, but it’s not the end all be all.

As far as adults—as with the example of the woman with HG–she simply wouldn’t have gone to Mass. People are free to do a bit more because society has accepted a bit more on the good side.
 
This reminds me about when I read a bunch of bellyaching about bathrooms in church, because we all must be pretty pathetic these days to not be able to wait an hour.

Never mind babies who need diapers, young children, the pregnant, the elderly, various medical conditions, the simple fact that not everyone lives within walking distance…

I think it can be easy to forget that a lot of people just didn’t go to Mass (or other public places), perhaps ever. Accommodations help others participate in public life, even if that means we have to “put up with” them.
 
pensmama87 said:
This reminds me about when I read a bunch of bellyaching about bathrooms in church, because we all must be pretty pathetic these days to not be able to wait an hour.

Never mind babies who need diapers, young children, the pregnant, the elderly, various medical conditions, the simple fact that not everyone lives within walking distance…

I think it can be easy to forget that a lot of people just didn’t go to Mass (or other public places), perhaps ever. Accommodations help others participate in public life, even if that means we have to “put up with” them.
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Growing up I remember hearing a story from my grandparent’s youth. One day in the 50s or 60’s–I’m not sure–his friend had a second bed in the bedroom. He asked what that was all about. The child replied, stunned, “I have a brother and we’re going to go pick him up.” My grandfather told the boy not to worry because babies don’t take up much room.

The brother wasn’t a baby. The brother was his twin brother with down syndrome. The boy was 8 or 9 and society had changed so that the institution they’d sent him to was shutting down. The brother ended up being quite bright and worked at the family store until he died around 40. VERY loved by the community…as an adult. From the sounds of it his childhood was miserable…culture just didn’t allow for “people like that”.
 
pensmama87 said:
This reminds me about when I read a bunch of bellyaching about bathrooms in church, because we all must be pretty pathetic these days to not be able to wait an hour.
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Oh man, of all the things to complain about!
 
You know, when I hear or think of people complaining of children misbehaving in Mass, I am reminded of something Jesus said; “unless you become like unto one of these little ones you shall not see God, for such as these is the kingdom of Heaven made.” I have several young children who live in the neighborhood, and it is a delight to hear them laughing and almost screaming with delight as they play. That sound of young kids having fun is maybe the best part of my day. And it makes me wonder if heaven, the abode of little children (and childlike adults) is a rather noise and raucous place. Forget the cherubs and their dulcet tones from their harps played on clouds, I think the kingdom of God is full of laughter, excitement, and the noise of little children. So, if that is true, why does it bother us so here in this life? Is silence, the language of Satan? Is the phrase, “children should be seen and not heard” one of Satan’s pet phrases. Shouldn’t we welcome the noise of little children at Mass? Methinks Jesus does.
 
pensmama87 said:
This reminds me about when I read a bunch of bellyaching about bathrooms in church, because we all must be pretty pathetic these days to not be able to wait an hour.
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I remember back in the day in my village when “not being able to wait an hour” meant going for a pee, or worse, behind the church. People tend to forget.
 
I can’t even count all of the parents to whom I owe an apology. I scoffed a lot at them during Mass. Then I had children. Gulp.
 
Thank you so much for this.

I have a child with severe ADHD. He ran into church one day with my husband tailing closely behind him.

Because I came in separately with my other children, the greeters didn’t think I belonged to the same family. So I got to overhear them engage in some very hurtful gossip about my son and “parents these days.” I wish they knew what we “parents these days” live with every day. I keep having to remind myself to have compassion on them for their ignorance. 😦
 
I think I love you! I know that I love her. From 1990-1993,we cared for my Grandma at home. She was very ill and eventually had a painful death. We never told the Priest our troubles because we were all scared of him. But my Mom would rush my siblings and I out right after communion week after week anyway. That mean priest and those mean parishoners judged us hard. But in the end we took the best care of Grandma that we could. I don’t think Jesus would ever be mad about our behavior at that time.
 
I’m out of likes. LOL.

Just wanted to comment that I know we see Jesus everywhere - but my friend’s adorable son has Down Syndrome - and I swear to you I see God every time that little man smiles.
 
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