drinking

[Melissa]

I believe the law is unjust because the federal government has, IMO, overstepped its bounds by creating a situation in which the states are “free” as long as the states don’t mind being punished for making a perfectly legitimate choice.

Furthermore, I believe that magic-age legislation is a bad idea. I believe that poor behavior connected with drinking (drunkenness, driving under the influence, etc.) should be punished (and more effectively … drunk drivers have to kill or maim someone or get into double-digit convictions before they do actual jail time). Responsible drinking is possible and should be encouraged amongst those who wish to consume alcohol.

The fact is that wine enhances the flavor of many foods, both as an ingredient and as an accompaniment. Beer also can enhance food flavor (I have a killer beer-cheese sauce recipe, and honestly–bratwurst without beer? no way!). A single glass of wine with a fine dinner needn’t even involve becoming tipsy, let alone drunk.

So, in short, I do not think there is anything immoral about an under 21 individual engaging in responsible consumption with an over-21 spouse.

 

[surfinpure]

And let us not forget that many minors “consume alcohol” at communion every Sunday. Is there a legal exemption for this, or is it civil disobedience?

 

[Syele]

And let us not forget that many minors “consume alcohol” at communion every Sunday. Is there a legal exemption for this, or is it civil disobedience?

I know my state has an exemption for religious observance. I don’t know if all states do.

 

[HannahLisa]

And let us not forget that many minors “consume alcohol” at communion every Sunday. Is there a legal exemption for this, or is it civil disobedience?

It’s a very small amount and it’s a religious observance. I don’t know if TX has a law exempting it, but I highly doubt anyone would ever get arrested on that basis.

One of my underage Catholic friends gave the wine at Communion at her church once, and apparently as part of that she was supposed to finish what was left over. She was worried about it because she had to drive home. (I don’t know whether she was supposed to be the one drinking it or not.)

 

[surfinpure]

It’s a very small amount and it’s a religious observance. I don’t know if TX has a law exempting it, but I highly doubt anyone would ever get arrested on that basis.

One of my underage Catholic friends gave the wine at Communion at her church once, and apparently as part of that she was supposed to finish what was left over. She was worried about it because she had to drive home. (I don’t know whether she was supposed to be the one drinking it or not.)

Well, that makes sense. I was just curious how that was handled. And I really wouldn’t worry about intoxication with such small amounts.

 

[AHapka]

Another place is in driving. My state law says that nobody under the age of 14 can operate a car anywhere. Well, I learned to drive on my grandpa’s farm and at the age of 12, all of my kids started learning to drive in fields and pastures at about that age. Again, I want my kids to be good safe drivers and I believe the earlier they start, the better they will be when they get a license. I will not delegate their safety to the civil authorities.

Are you sure it is anywhere? In Wisconsin, the driving age applies only to public highways (i.e. the roads that the taxpayers pay for). You can do whatever you want on private property. I could put my four year old on my lap and let him drive down my driveway.

The only driving laws that apply on private property here are criminal violations such as reckless driving, negligent operation causing injury, etc.

Check your states stautes to be sure…

Andy

 

[AHapka]

And let us not forget that many minors “consume alcohol” at communion every Sunday. Is there a legal exemption for this, or is it civil disobedience?

Not that I want to start a whole other debate, but…

It’s the Blood of Christ, only the accidents of alcohol remain

(I know it’s a silly point to those who don’t believe in transsubstantiation, but it’s a point nonetheless).

Andy

 

[surfinpure]

Are you sure it is anywhere? In Wisconsin, the driving age applies only to public highways (i.e. the roads that the taxpayers pay for). You can do whatever you want on private property. I could put my four year old on my lap and let him drive down my driveway.

The only driving laws that apply on private property here are criminal violations such as reckless driving, negligent operation causing injury, etc.

Check your states stautes to be sure…

Andy

Of course I agree with you entirely. Only I don’t think the regulating bodies would. But if they make allowances for our belief on the subject, that is good enough for me.

 

[rubycanoe]

It is not illegal to drink in your own home. It is illegal in most states to BUY alcohol, or for a bar to SERVE someone under age 21, but if you are at home it is completely legal. Now to serve others underage (friends) in your home might be illegal and of course public intoxication or driving and drinking is illegal. But if you and your spouse drink in your own home, NO PROBLEM, children can have wine with dinner even, NOT AGAINST THE LAW.
cheers