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I’d say that if you’re worried about how much you can drink before it’s sinful, then the answer to your questions would be “you can drink nothing.” Since you’re well aware of the near occasion of sin, to continue in to that near occasion, may be actually be sinful.
 
nkmeck said:
I’d say that if you’re worried about how much you can drink before it’s sinful, then the answer to your questions would be “you can drink nothing.” Since you’re well aware of the near occasion of sin, to continue in to that near occasion, may be actually be sinful.
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I haven’t had a problem with drinking. I am underage, and I don’t drink at all. I was just curious because I know drinking by itself isn’t sinful but being drunk is. Where do you draw the line?
 
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I haven’t had a problem with drinking. I am underage, and I don’t drink at all. I was just curious because I know drinking by itself isn’t sinful but being drunk is. Where do you draw the line?
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It’s actually quite relative. An alcoholic, who by defenition, can’t have drinks socially because they can’t keep themselves from getting drunk, it would probably be sinful for them to have just one drink.

Other’s however can probably have 2 or 3.

It all pretty much depends on the person. There’s no real absolute answer like the cut off is two drinks, or BAC .03. But St. Thomas Aquinas says it’s ok to drink “to the point of halarity.”
 
PeteZaHut,

I think the answers you find here are going to be variations on “it depends.” Drinking to get drunk is obviously wrong. One drink is obviously okay for a non alcoholic. The middle depends on how much alcohol it would take to impair their inhibitions, which in turn would depend on the person’s body weight, how much they have had to eat, etc.

God bless.
 
Newbie2 said:
I never heard that, but will have to remember it. 😃
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I know, it’s my battle cry when out with friends. Raise you’re glasses to the point of halarity, but no further!!! Thank you St. Thomas, PRAY FOR ME.
 
PeteZaHut said:
How much can you drink before it becomes sinful?
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As much as you want as long as it doesn’t get you drunk- or cause you to otherwise be a danger to yourself or others. A 300+ pound person who has been drinking for many years can handle a lot more than a 21 year old who’s 5’0" and 90 pounds.
 
PeteZaHut said:
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There is not a specified amount if that’s what you are looking for.

The Church teaching on this is:

CCC 2290 The virtue of temperance disposes us to avoid every kind of excess: the abuse of food, alcohol, tobacco, or medicine. Those incur grave guilt who, by drunkenness or a love of speed, endanger their own and others’ safety on the road, at sea, or in the air.
 
I am of German descent, so this has always been a question for me coming from a beer culture. I have found a good orthodox confessor and spiritual director, and he has told ME (after much discussion) that it is very subjective, as some have said. What he decided on for ME is that I don’t drink so much as to endanger my ability to: conquer temptations, be nice to people, set a good example, etc. For ME that is 8-10. For some, that would be 1-2. And for these amounts I’m talking about an entire day, not just an hour at a restaurant. Drunkeness means getting to the point where the alcohol is the deciding factor in whether or not you engage in sinful activity or not.

One of the subjectives involved here is culture and conditioning. So I hope I have not scandalized myself!
 
14er said:
I am of German descent, so this has always been a question for me coming from a beer culture. I have found a good orthodox confessor and spiritual director, and he has told ME (after much discussion) that it is very subjective, as some have said. What he decided on for ME is that I don’t drink so much as to endanger my ability to: conquer temptations, be nice to people, set a good example, etc. For ME that is 8-10. For some, that would be 1-2. And for these amounts I’m talking about an entire day, not just an hour at a restaurant. Drunkeness means getting to the point where the alcohol is the deciding factor in whether or not you engage in sinful activity or not.

One of the subjectives involved here is culture and conditioning. So I hope I have not scandalized myself!
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WELL SAID…".DRUNKENESS MEANS GETTING TO THE POINT WHERE THE ALCOHOL IS THE DECIDING FACTOR IN WHETHER OR NOT YOU ENGAGE IN SINFUL ACTIVITY OR NOT."

If you are behaving in a manner to even hurt yourself or others by words or actions, that would consist of sinful behavior also.

Roo
 
PeteZaHut said:
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I think the more appropriate question would be, “What is God’s perfect will for us in terms of drinking alcohol?” While it is noble to try to avoid sin, our attitude should not be, “How close to the line can I get without crossing it,” but rather, “How can I stay as far away from sin as possible?”
 
Hee yep…sinful or whatever, I wouldn’t recommend drinking past the point that it (and everything else) is funny. You may make that mistake now and again, since alcohol has an approx 45-minute catch-up point, but oh you will know when you’ve blown it, later if not sooner. 😛 So long as -everything- is funny though, you’re likely okay…just don’t keep going.

That, and if you’re an addict by natural disposition, well, you have to be more than extra-careful. Some people just carry the genes, and in that case…no, don’t drink. It shows just after one beer, don’t think it doesn’t. And if acquired…sadly, it shows too, and will hurt you and others. It’s not the same. Addiction isn’t an entirely simple mechanism., but best to be safe and sane.

Sin? How would I be able to tell you that, really? But hurt no one else if you would be sinless (not even yourself, yes?), and that’s a clear possibility when alcohol’s a factor When you can’t tell if that’s a danger, then just maybe, you are sinning.
 
I refer you to my brother’s remark on the subject: There’s no such thing as drinking too much… only too fast.

Matthew
 
As I happen to know that you are underage the answer is any drinking of alcoholic beverages is a sin in your case.

And don’t even try to bring the BLOOD OF JESUS up. These are two totally differing things.
 
my guess is if you committ another sin as a result of your drinking then you actually have committed two sins since your drinking was a sin that caused the other sin. So I would say that should be your judge. If you don’t sin you dindn’t drink too much
 
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