Driving and Texting

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mikekle said:
These people are the exception though, personally I have to focus on driving every second.
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Interesting statement. Now given the rise of ADHD claims by many hear days should it be a law that in order to get a license one should have to be medically cleared of this disability? I wonder…

I also wonder if the states that have banned texting but legalized pot have ever heard of the word hypocrite?
 
mikekle said:
Im not sure on that, I know a few people who are very good at multi-tasking, driving included, a couple of them I have ridden with, its scary sometimes, but in their 45 + yrs of driving, they have never once been in an accident, so that is saying something imo, luck would not apply, not over such a long period.
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I’d say they were extremely lucky. Our brains simply can’t focus on 2 or more things at the same time - it’s a matter of biology. One’s attention jumps from one thing to the other - some are faster at this than others. But no matter how fast they might be, they are still focusing on one thing at a time.
 
Bonnie said:
Dunno. And I don’t intend to find out. 😉
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So how does one determine one is driving while high as you pointed out is illegal? Certainly there has to be a threshold. Admittedly off topic…
 
Bonnie said:
I’d say they were extremely lucky. Our brains simply can’t focus on 2 or more things at the same time - it’s a matter of biology. .
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It’s a matter of biology? I know several profession athletes who achieve this for a paycheck. And I personally can walk and chew gum at the same time. Come to think of it I can pat my head and rub my belly and say the rosary and drive.
Which brings to mind an interesting point. Many caf members have claimed to pray while commuting and driving. Should that be illegal too? What if one was offering s prayer in the form of song (praying twice). And the song was Jesus take the wheel?
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Try your best to make the person not text-and-drive while you’re in the car with him.

Try bringing up how it is both dangerous and illegal, and keep bringing it up. Eventually he’ll stop just to shut you up.
 
Hoosier_Daddy said:
It’s a matter of biology? I know several profession athletes who achieve this for a paycheck. And I personally can walk and chew gum at the same time. Come to think of it I can pat my head and rub my belly and say the rosary and drive.
Which brings to mind an interesting point. Many caf members have claimed to pray while commuting and driving. Should that be illegal too? What if one was offering s prayer in the form of song (praying twice). And the song was Jesus take the wheel?
(Did your mind just explode)
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Keep both eyes and your whole mind on the road. I don’t think praying or singing occupy much mental space, and in a crisis you can stop, but activities that pull your attention away from the job of making split-second life or death decisions need to be avoided.
 
jmcrae said:
I should think it would be zero. I can’t see how it’s possible to drive safely after using mind-altering drugs.
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No, not zero, alcohol is a mind altering drug and with alcohol/ driving, there is a threshold, when under it, someone can still function properly, but regarding pot, Im not sure what that is, THC can be measured in your body, I assume they will create some kind of portable device similar to a breathilizer, but to detect THC levels.
 
Hoosier_Daddy said:
It’s a matter of biology? I know several profession athletes who achieve this for a paycheck. And I personally can walk and chew gum at the same time. Come to think of it I can pat my head and rub my belly and say the rosary and drive.
Which brings to mind an interesting point. Many caf members have claimed to pray while commuting and driving. Should that be illegal too? What if one was offering s prayer in the form of song (praying twice). And the song was Jesus take the wheel?
(Did your mind just explode)
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That’s news to me. Please show me video of a wide receiver texting while making a catch. Or a Nascar driver texting during a race. I must be watching the wrong stations.

My son and one of his friends made several stupid arguments in favor of texting and driving. I set up a little experiment. I had them sit next to one another and carry on a texting conversation while I sat in front of them with a stick (it was a cat toy so nothing that would hurt, unfortunately). In addition to their texting, all they had to do was avoid being hit with the stick. I was truly shocked that neither one could do it. :rolleyes:

As for personal liberties, blah, blah, blah, back in college my rule of thumb was that if I could make it to my car either on my own or with a minimal or possibly moderate/major level of help by no more than three or four friends, then I was sober enough to drive. I had many nights where I blacked out behind the wheel (or even before I got in the car) and didn’t remember the drive home, nights where I came to while driving on the wrong side of the road (even on divided highways) and at least one time when I came to while driving in the median. Many other times I was just fall-down, slobbering drunk but didn’t black out. Heck, I even had times where I was so drunk the next morning that I needed help getting to car so I could drive home. That there is proof that drunk driving should be legal. I made it through about four years of extremely frequent, sometimes constant, full-on, totally and undeniably drunk driving (we’re talking way past a 0.10 BAC) and never wrecked, hurt or killed anybody. I proved that I had the skills to do it, and if I can master those skills, anyone can. Therefore, outlawing drunk driving is an infringement on my liberties and any politician who disagrees should be lynched.
 
Gordon_Sims said:
That’s news to me. Please show me video of a wide receiver texting while making a catch. Or a Nascar driver texting during a race. I must be watching the wrong stations.

My son and one of his friends made several stupid arguments in favor of texting and driving. I set up a little experiment. I had them sit next to one another and carry on a texting conversation while I sat in front of them with a stick (it was a cat toy so nothing that would hurt, unfortunately). In addition to their texting, all they had to do was avoid being hit with the stick. I was truly shocked that neither one could do it. :rolleyes:

As for personal liberties, blah, blah, blah, back in college my rule of thumb was that if I could make it to my car either on my own or with a minimal or possibly moderate/major level of help by no more than three or four friends, then I was sober enough to drive. I had many nights where I blacked out behind the wheel (or even before I got in the car) and didn’t remember the drive home, nights where I came to while driving on the wrong side of the road (even on divided highways) and at least one time when I came to while driving in the median. Many other times I was just fall-down, slobbering drunk but didn’t black out. Heck, I even had times where I was so drunk the next morning that I needed help getting to car so I could drive home. That there is proof that drunk driving should be legal. I made it through about four years of extremely frequent, sometimes constant, full-on, totally and undeniably drunk driving (we’re talking way past a 0.10 BAC) and never wrecked, hurt or killed anybody. I proved that I had the skills to do it, and if I can master those skills, anyone can. Therefore, outlawing drunk driving is an infringement on my liberties and any politician who disagrees should be lynched.
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Ive had more than a few occasions back in my partying days when I could not figure out how I managed to drive home as well, a few times, it was just 4-5 blocks, but many other times, it was 15-20 miles, at night. Im sure many other people have had the same thing happen to them.

Maybe this needs to be studied? It seems like some kind of ‘natural instinct’ kicks in, or else no one would ever had made it home under these conditions, maybe its just because majority of these events happen very late at night when there are not many cars on the road, but still, if someone is THAT impaired, something else must be taking over when these people are driving.

Maybe this is just a function of the brain we do not yet understand or recognize, and COULD be studied and/ or people taught to ‘access’ it…??

But, as Ive said before, things like texting and driving, driving impaired, etc, are all going to be non-issues once self driving cars become the norm
 
mikekle said:
Ive had more than a few occasions back in my partying days when I could not figure out how I managed to drive home as well, a few times, it was just 4-5 blocks, but many other times, it was 15-20 miles, at night. Im sure many other people have had the same thing happen to them.

Maybe this needs to be studied? It seems like some kind of ‘natural instinct’ kicks in, or else no one would ever had made it home under these conditions, maybe its just because majority of these events happen very late at night when there are not many cars on the road, but still, if someone is THAT impaired, something else must be taking over when these people are driving.

Maybe this is just a function of the brain we do not yet understand or recognize, and COULD be studied and/ or people taught to ‘access’ it…??

But, as Ive said before, things like texting and driving, driving impaired, etc, are all going to be non-issues once self driving cars become the norm
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I think it’s blind, stupid luck. The times I ended up in the other lane (not always the result of blacking out), the only reason I didn’t die was because either nobody else was out or the few who were on the road got out of my way. Same with my old claim that my body had learned the way home from the bar. I wasn’t blacked out most of the times that I drove home so s-faced I couldn’t walk. I still have vivid yet vague recollections of driving through yards and on sidewalks. Of course, when you’re a completely wasted 20-year-old, that’s not only funny but a clear example of how capable you are of driving drunk because you’re able to drive six blocks on the sidewalk and not get caught or hit any trees or mailboxes.

The only reason I haven’t had a wreck with the idiots who have crossed left of center while exercising their mad texting skills is because they were far enough ahead of me that I was able to get out of their way. And, no, honking didn’t snap their attention away from their all-important phone, although it did prompt a couple of them to give me the finger. From what I can gather, that’s another of those integral texting skills.
 
The other day outside of wal mart a woman texting on her phone stepped out into the street while not even bothering to look. I slammed on my brakes. Had a car been behind me I would have been hit. There are dangers everywhere and some people cannot do things wisely. The texting was not the problem any more than had she been talking to a friend and stepped out. It was her obliviousness to others and her surroundings. She endangered her life and the quality of mine. But the law should not be against texting but against negligence. Anyone who commutes, of drives for a living is lying if they say they are focused on the road all the time. Hey if you are on an empty freeway in the middle of Montana with cruise control you can practically write a novel…
 
Hoosier_Daddy said:
The other day outside of wal mart a woman texting on her phone stepped out into the street while not even bothering to look. I slammed on my brakes. Had a car been behind me I would have been hit. There are dangers everywhere and some people cannot do things wisely. The texting was not the problem any more than had she been talking to a friend and stepped out. It was her obliviousness to others and her surroundings. She endangered her life and the quality of mine. But the law should not be against texting but against negligence. Anyone who commutes, of drives for a living is lying if they say they are focused on the road all the time. Hey if you are on an empty freeway in the middle of Montana with cruise control you can practically write a novel…
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You’re still trying to defend an indefensible behavior. For a long stretch back in college I was buzzed or drunk behind the wheel almost all the time. My reaction time was impaired to varying degrees pretty much 24/7. However, I was always looking at the road and had my hands on the wheel. I was in a far better condition to drive than someone who’s staring at their lap and typing. Since I was paying attention to the road and being cautious, at least as much as I could in that state, you could argue that I wasn’t being negligent. The fact that I never caused any bodily harm reinforces my claim that I wasn’t negligent. My behavior clearly wasn’t a problem and should, therefore, be legal.
 
Considering the repeated warnings on this thread, I wonder how God will view it when he runs over someone. I am sure God will understand because he is skilled.
 
WJeffrey said:
Considering the repeated warnings on this thread, I wonder how God will view it when he runs over someone. I am sure God will understand because he is skilled.
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I think I’ll be ok… I hope the hypothetical person was just stepping out of the confessional. But I can guarantee it won’t be because I am texting but rather the 5 kids watching frozen for the umpteenth time that creates the distraction. Get that. There is litterally a daycare and a movie theater in my car…
 
Gordon_Sims said:
You’re still trying to defend an indefensible behavior. For a long stretch back in college I was buzzed or drunk behind the wheel almost all the time. My reaction time was impaired to varying degrees pretty much 24/7. However, I was always looking at the road and had my hands on the wheel. I was in a far better condition to drive than someone who’s staring at their lap and typing. Since I was paying attention to the road and being cautious, at least as much as I could in that state, you could argue that I wasn’t being negligent. The fact that I never caused any bodily harm reinforces my claim that I wasn’t negligent. My behavior clearly wasn’t a problem and should, therefore, be legal.
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Agree to disagree I guess. Lights green,gotta go…
(Actually I’m at a fro yo place with my kids but if I wasn’t it would be legal, nay, encouraged in my state, a PSA told me so…
 
Hoosier_Daddy said:
Agree to disagree I guess. Lights green,gotta go…
(Actually I’m at a fro yo place with my kids but if I wasn’t it would be legal, nay, encouraged in my state, a PSA told me so…
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You are 100% wrong. I am 100% right. There’s really no middle ground. If you don’t have the sense to pull over to text, you shouldn’t be behind the wheel.
 
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