Driving/Breaking the Law

[S_V7]

it’s about time i learned to drive so my parents have decided to teach me first hand since driver’s ed. is just about impossible now. I was wondering if it would be wrong to drive (without my lisence/permit) around my yard or “outside” the city.

 

[Wirraway]

it’s about time i learned to drive so my parents have decided to teach me first hand since driver’s ed. is just about impossible now. I was wondering if it would be wrong to drive (without my lisence/permit) around my yard or “outside” the city.

have you tried the local short track race scene?

 

[Sam_Maloney]

In most of the US, you get a ‘learner’s permit’ that allows you to practice driving with a liscensed adult.

Call your local law enforcement: they can tell you what is acceptible and what isn’t.

 

[Catholic90]

it’s about time i learned to drive so my parents have decided to teach me first hand since driver’s ed. is just about impossible now. I was wondering if it would be wrong to drive (without my lisence/permit) around my yard or “outside” the city.

First of all, how old are you? If you are 15 1/2, you can get a learner’s permit.
Check this out: dmvnv.com/nvdlteens.htm

Second, if you don’t have a permit and drive and get in (or cause) an accident, that could cause big headaches - legal and financial - for you and your parents.

Yes, the classes are a PITA, but they are necessary. Take them. Then get your permit and drive all you want with a licensed driver who is 21 years of age or older beside you. I’ve been doing this with 2 of my teens for the past 2 years now. One in now licensed, and the other just got his permit a few months ago.

From the site above:

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Nearly all Nevada beginning drivers under 18 must complete a driver education course. You can enroll at age 15. Exceptions are not made for home-schooled students.
You must complete a course if one is offered within a 30-mile radius of your residential address or if you can complete a course online. The course is not a requirement to obtain an instruction permit. It is a requirement for a driver license.
You have the choice of courses offered through your public school district or those offered by private Nevada professional driving schools. The course consists of 30 hours of classroom instruction. Some private schools also offer a course consisting of 15 hours of classroom instruction and 5 hours of behind-the-wheel training. Schools must be specifically approved for this by the DMV.
See Professional Drive Schools for a list of licensed schools. The Department of Motor Vehicles licenses and monitors professional driving schools but does not regulate schedules or pricing. *
Any professional driving school offering courses by television, Internet or other means must be specifically licensed for this by the Nevada DMV for the course to be accepted. Your local school district may or may not offer ‘distance learning’ courses by television, Internet or other means.
All schools issue a Certificate of Completion which must be presented to the DMV when you apply for your full license.
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http://www.dmvnv.com/images/ballblu.gif Your Instruction Permit*

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Young drivers can obtain an instruction (learner’s) permit at age 15½. You must present Proof of Identity (Name and Date of Birth) and Social Security Number if a number has been issued for you. This is typically a certified, U.S.-issued Birth Certificate and your Social Security Card.
You must pass the vision and written tests and have a parent/guardian sign the financial responsibility section on the application. The fee is $22. You will receive an interim paper document that allows you to drive. The actual instruction permit will be mailed within 10 business days. You may drive only with a licensed driver, 21 years or older, with at least one year of driving experience seated next to you at all times.

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[S_V7]

I am 17 and will be 18 in a few months

 

[AHapka]

it’s about time i learned to drive so my parents have decided to teach me first hand since driver’s ed. is just about impossible now. I was wondering if it would be wrong to drive (without my lisence/permit) around my yard or “outside” the city.

You generally only need a license to drive on a public road. On private property (i.e. your yard) it’s no problem. Check your state statutes to be sure though.

 

[aggiecatholic05]

it’s about time i learned to drive so my parents have decided to teach me first hand since driver’s ed. is just about impossible now. I was wondering if it would be wrong to drive (without my lisence/permit) around my yard or “outside” the city.

if you arent on a public road it is legal to drive without a liscense, like in a yard or pasture. outside the city on roads the county and state still say you need a liscense so i wouldnt try that.

 

[Ruthie]

Just to clarify what Aggie said, you can only drive unlicensed in a pasture if your parents own it.

Don’t try it in mine!

God bless you,

Ruthie

 

[AHapka]

Just to clarify what Aggie said, you can only drive unlicensed in a pasture if your parents own it.

Don’t try it in mine!

God bless you,

Ruthie

Legally, it wouldn’t matter. From a moral point of view, he should get permission. But I don’t think any of us can restrict him from driving in pastures that we don’t own or have control over, that would be up to that property owner.

 

[mcs7474]

Don’t be a scruple, morally, you have more important things to worry about.

 

[Ruthie]

But I don’t think any of us can restrict him from driving in pastures that we don’t own or have control over, that would be up to that property owner.

There are two problems here. A license, at least in the US, is required to drive anywhere but on your own or your parent’s private property. You can’t even drive without a license on the public road that goes between pieces of that property.

It *may *be that you could practice on my property without a license - I’m not sure of the law in that case - but you could only do so with my permission. Pasture is just as much private property as your neighbor’s lawn. Trespassing is trespassing whether there are signs posted or not. In fact, the reason people put up signs is because of law breakers.

Driving on someone’s pasture is just like driving in someone’s cornfield. You are destroying property and damaging the owner’s ability to earn a living. It’s just not as obvious as it is when you mow down corn with your car. Pastureland is actually quite fragile. That’s why you can still see parts of the “Oregon Trail” out here - the prairie has *still *not recovered.

Don’t go trespassing to learn to drive. Then you will have broken two laws.

And, yes, I would call the law if I saw you in my neighbors’ pasture.

Ruthie, stickler for property rights

 

[AHapka]

There are two problems here. A license, at least in the US, is required to drive anywhere but on your own or your parent’s private property. You can’t even drive without a license on the public road that goes between pieces of that property.

It *may *be that you could practice on my property without a license - I’m not sure of the law in that case - but you could only do so with my permission. Pasture is just as much private property as your neighbor’s lawn. Trespassing is trespassing whether there are signs posted or not. In fact, the reason people put up signs is because of law breakers.

Driving on someone’s pasture is just like driving in someone’s cornfield. You are destroying property and damaging the owner’s ability to earn a living. It’s just not as obvious as it is when you mow down corn with your car. Pastureland is actually quite fragile. That’s why you can still see parts of the “Oregon Trail” out here - the prairie has *still *not recovered.

Don’t go trespassing to learn to drive. Then you will have broken two laws.

And, yes, I would call the law if I saw you in my neighbors’ pasture.

Ruthie, stickler for property rights

Perhaps you mis-interprited me:

I’m not arguing any of this with you in terms of property rights. I wasn’t advocating him trespassing. I merely said that if he choses to drive on someone else’s property,** it’s up to that property owner, not you or me**. I made this point in my previous post.

In the case of the neighbor’s pasture, it would be the neighbor’s decision to let him drive there or not. Neither you nor me has a right to have a say in that matter. This is what I meant when I said: “But I don’t think any of us can restrict him from driving in pastures that we don’t own or have control over, that would be up to that property owner.”

A license is only required on the public roads. Any private property is not a public road, so none is required, irregardless of ownership.

 

[aggiecatholic05]

There are two problems here. A license, at least in the US, is required to drive anywhere but on your own or your parent’s private property. You can’t even drive without a license on the public road that goes between pieces of that property.

It *may *be that you could practice on my property without a license - I’m not sure of the law in that case - but you could only do so with my permission. Pasture is just as much private property as your neighbor’s lawn. Trespassing is trespassing whether there are signs posted or not. In fact, the reason people put up signs is because of law breakers.

Driving on someone’s pasture is just like driving in someone’s cornfield. You are destroying property and damaging the owner’s ability to earn a living. It’s just not as obvious as it is when you mow down corn with your car. Pastureland is actually quite fragile. That’s why you can still see parts of the “Oregon Trail” out here - the prairie has *still *not recovered.

Don’t go trespassing to learn to drive. Then you will have broken two laws.

And, yes, I would call the law if I saw you in my neighbors’ pasture.

Ruthie, stickler for property rights

since i mentioned this i’ll respond. when i suggested a pasture i was definately talking about theirs or one they had permission to be on, not trespassing. at least in Texas any private property you have permission to be on you can drive on regardless of a liscense.

i may have put too much personal into it, not thinking that not everybody grows up on multiple acres with nothing around.

 

[Ruthie]

“But I don’t think any of us can restrict him from driving in pastures that we don’t own or have control over, that would be up to that property owner.”

I misinterpreted you in part; I don’t always get it. Sometimes I gotta give meself that ol’ V8 salute. :doh2:

However, your quote does at least *seem *to disregard trespassing laws. Laws are put into place by “us.” So I do think that “any of us” can restrict a trespasser - by calling the law.

So don’t go practicing skids in my pasture or the one next door - I’ll have the law on ya!

God bless us, scofflaws and all,

Ruthie

 

[NTOT]

it’s about time i learned to drive so my parents have decided to teach me first hand since driver’s ed. is just about impossible now. I was wondering if it would be wrong to drive (without my lisence/permit) around my yard or “outside” the city.

You can drive to your hearts content on private property, with or without a license. So long as you have permission of the vehicle owner and land owner.