Driving without my licensce

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Our truck broke down yesterday. Anyway, skipping some parts my dad got it running today. The truck was stranded at the house where my dad was putting windows in. Anyway, when he got it started he told me to drive the truck home as he would come along in the van. I initally refused as in Ontario you cannot drive alone with only a G1, something that I have. I do not yet have my G2. So, i refused as i did not want to sin. Luckily, my dad asked a family friend if he could come along. I thought the problem was solved until…:eek: he told me to drive. I have no problem with driving and the family friend is like a grandpa in many ways, (by the way, the G1 conditions are that you have to drive with someone who has more than 4 years expiernece and the full G licencse and you cant exceed 80:rolleyes:), however, here is the problem, i didnt have my wallet on me, which as you could guess had my licencse in it. My dad was testy enough and i didnt want him to get more cranky, so i got and and unhappily drove the truck home. I didnt exceed 85,86,87 on an 80 Kilometre per hour zone etc., i stopped (I stopped briefly for a second at a stop sign and saw no one so i kept going, it wasnt a complete dead stop,) stayed in my lane, etc. so i wasnt driving hazardously,

i did not enjoy driving it home and i realised something i forgot as well (that i;m not insured:eek::eek:) but G1 drivers arent insured as you cant get insurance because i’m not a qualified driver yet. In addition to forgetting my drivers licencse at home!! :tsktsk::tsktsk::tsktsk:

Is this a mortal sin??

I am so afraid it is, and i didnt enjoy it

Help please!!
 
Also, my dad should have told the broker that i am a G1 driver, but hasnt and technically, i need to be put onto their insurance although i myself cant get insured-this was something i forgot while i was driving :confused: :confused::eek: :eek:

is this a mortal sin as well?

i hope not!!
 
mymamamary said:
Dear Forum!!

Our truck broke down yesterday. Anyway, skipping some parts my dad got it running today. The truck was stranded at the house where my dad was putting windows in. Anyway, when he got it started he told me to drive the truck home as he would come along in the van. I initally refused as in Ontario you cannot drive alone with only a G1, something that I have. I do not yet have my G2. So, i refused as i did not want to sin. Luckily, my dad asked a family friend if he could come along. I thought the problem was solved until…:eek: he told me to drive. I have no problem with driving and the family friend is like a grandpa in many ways, (by the way, the G1 conditions are that you have to drive with someone who has more than 4 years expiernece and the full G licencse and you cant exceed 80:rolleyes:), however, here is the problem, i didnt have my wallet on me, which as you could guess had my licencse in it. My dad was testy enough and i didnt want him to get more cranky, so i got and and unhappily drove the truck home. I didnt exceed 85,86,87 on an 80 Kilometre per hour zone etc., i stopped (I stopped briefly for a second at a stop sign and saw no one so i kept going, it wasnt a complete dead stop,) stayed in my lane, etc. so i wasnt driving hazardously,

i did not enjoy driving it home and i realised something i forgot as well (that i;m not insured:eek::eek:) but G1 drivers arent insured as you cant get insurance because i’m not a qualified driver yet. In addition to forgetting my drivers licencse at home!! :tsktsk::tsktsk::tsktsk:

Is this a mortal sin??

I am so afraid it is, and i didnt enjoy it

Help please!!
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I don’t know if its a sin of grave matter or not but driving without a valid licence and insurance is a crime which would have made you subject to arrest if you had been stopped by the police.
I can imagine doing that if there was a medical emergency and you were the only way to get someone to hospital to save a life but not under any other circumstances.
 
Why heavens no!! It is not a Mortal sin!

You refused and didn’t enjoy driving. And you had permission from your guardians to drive, and they should know you were not insured.

Of course you shouldn’t of been driving without a licence.
A good question is, were you mentally and physically able to drive without much problems? If so, then not a mortal sin.

If you weren’t mentally and physically able to drive, then that could of endangered people and was a mortal sin.

At the most, it has to be venial.

No Mortal sin.
Enjoy The Body of Christ. 🙂
 
If I had a dollar for everytime I drove when I forgot my wallet and drivers license, i’d be rich :rolleyes:
 
Like i said, one poster said that it is a crime to drive uninsured and without a licencse. Of course it it, and i wasnt driving without either, i am a driver, i have a licencse, albeit not a full one but still a vaild licencse. As for insurance, i am not a full/qualified driver yet so if if i wanted to get insurance i wouldnt be able to for now. Although my dad should have mentioned the fact that i am a driver to the insrance company. I dont know if it is required though…or perhapsi am automatically under my parents insurance. I still shouldnt have forgottent my wallet, 😦 but dad didnt really give me any more options. I didnt like it, i would much have preffered that the family friend drive the truck, but he was the passenger, so that part of my requirement was fulfilled, plus i dont enjoy breaking unjust laws!! :eek: :eek: even when i bike, i am scrupulous as to making sure i have everything that the law requires helmet, bell, I.D etc…
 
In the United States (at least in my state anyway), we have 24 hours to produce our driver’s license if we are pulled over and don’t happen to have it with us. I don’t know if it works that way in Canada, but you DO have a license and you would have been able to produce it to police if you needed to. I’m not quite understanding about the insurance. If you are allowed to drive with a G1 license (as long as you have another driver with you), and you cannot be insured, then I don’t see how you could have gotten into trouble for that. Here in the U.S., when my son had his learner’s permit, we didn’t need insurance on him–he was covered under our insurance. Then when he got his actual license, we had to pay for him to have insurance coverage as well. Weren’t you covered under your dad’s insurance?
 
I think i’m covered under my parents insurance, but yeah, its the Ontario version of a learners permit. So i dont know,

Mortal sin?
 
Its just a misdemeanor anyway. Not that im condoning a misdemeanor, but it doesn’t seem to rise to the level of seriousness of a mortal sin.
 
No mortal sin. Please don`t trouble yourself further on this matter. It was an act of christian charity to help your Dad and not to have your wallet and license with you was an oversight. Maybe it could have been a civil matter, but not a mortal sin.
 
thistle said:
I don’t know if its a sin of grave matter or not but driving without a valid licence and insurance is a crime which would have made you subject to arrest if you had been stopped by the police.
I can imagine doing that if there was a medical emergency and you were the only way to get someone to hospital to save a life but not under any other circumstances.
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That’s a bit dramatic!

Not all “crimes” are the same. This is a “malum prohibitum” a thing prohibited by law, not a moral wrong in itself. The OP would have got a traffic ticket. And I’m sure a decent OPP officer would have understood, had a chuckle, given a warning and waved him on.

We do the best we can in the given circumstances. It sounds like the OP did the best he could - he was torn between obeying his father and obeying the law. He obeyed his father.

No harm no foul.

Not even a sin.
 
triumphguy said:
That’s a bit dramatic!

Not all “crimes” are the same. This is a “malum prohibitum” a thing prohibited by law, not a moral wrong in itself. The OP would have got a traffic ticket. And I’m sure a decent OPP officer would have understood, had a chuckle, given a warning and waved him on.

We do the best we can in the given circumstances. It sounds like the OP did the best he could - he was torn between obeying his father and obeying the law. He obeyed his father.

No harm no foul.

Not even a sin.
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The OP said he was also NOT insured. That’s a bit more than a traffic ticket.
Bear in mind there was no emergency that required him to drive.
I don’t think anyone could argue his dad’s truck breaking down was a mitigating reason to break the law.
 
Well he is insured.

He was merely not carrying his learner’s license.

And driving along a rural road in Ontario is not like driving the M6 or the M56 in England.😛
 
You were covered under your dad’s insurance…you HAVE a driver’s license–you just didn’t have it with you at that moment. You could have produced it to police within a very short time if the need arose. There is NO SIN, Josh! Not even venial. Please forget about it.
 
thistle said:
The OP said he was also NOT insured. That’s a bit more than a traffic ticket.
Bear in mind there was no emergency that required him to drive.
I don’t think anyone could argue his dad’s truck breaking down was a mitigating reason to break the law.
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Perhaps you misunderstood or what was said wasn’t clear. In Canada, the vehicle is insured not the driver. He didn’t break the law - in fact he followed the letter of it. The only thing (not a sin, but a civil matter - which I’ll never understand given the modern day computers in police cars…) we are required to physically have our driver’s license on our person when operating a vehicle.
 
What IS a sin is that 15 people actually responded to this? Come on OP. SERIOUSLY!:rolleyes:
 
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