Dude, ever wonder why?

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Why does God take away good people? I mean people who gave light to so many people’s lives? Also why does he take young ones when there are many an old tyrants who are surely more deserving if death. It’s all stupid, life and death are stupid because it’s all so fickle. It’s horrible to watch life taken away from people with such potential. But you want to know something? When someone dies, everyone cries their little eyes out. That’s worse than the death of the person who passed. The reason being is our society is so messed up that we cry when someone dies! How selfish is that! We are guilty of the worst crime against that person. Because we sit in out homes and shed tears over how billy was taken from us and this and that and the other thing. Well we are not crying for billy we cry for ourselves. We cry because it feels good. We cry because we are all bent out of shape that we won’t see billy ever again. That’s wrong folks. How can we be so selfish that we would wish billy back to this hell of a place? Rejoice that he is in a far better place than we were. It is a crime against him to wish him back so we don’t feel so bad. I think funerals should be happy things because that person is with God.

The whole reason I wrote this seemingly unprovoked thread is because I saw a woman crying over the loss of a child. All the while cursing God, the world, and most of the people trying to comfort her. I just wish that she could be happy for the time she had with that child and that she gave him the gift of God and eternal life. Poor old woman. Maybe a prayer for her? Just try and remember that the next time someone near and dear passes. It’s hard I know but be happy for them.
 
Prayers for her.

And hey, we cry because we’re human. Even Jesus wept when Lazarus died.

It might be out of selfishness, sure, but then again it might be out of genuine selfless sympathy for all the other people who will never get to know your loved one. For all the things they will never get to do. Stuff like that.
 
Hi Airborne 21B,
I see you have a new thread. Is your feeling on this new thread related to your other thread.? " Please pray teens like me who are growing up." If it is, sounds like you have a lot of hidden emotions that need to be released. And crying for losses is part of being a human being. AND it’s okay for a man to cry. God did after all gave everybody tear ducts. On the battlefield men cry for being scared, relief that they survived under enemy fire, seeing their friends get wounded or die, battle fatigue and other reasons.

Great leaders cried. Jesus wept. My grandpa cried. I still cry at the death of my Mom. She died on 7 June 2007. Her physical presence is gone. I won’t get a chance to see her smile, to laugh, to be kissed, hugged, if I ever get married I won’t see her joy, if I’m ever blessed with children she won’t be able to touch, kiss or hold them. If I become financially successful I can’t see her pride and relief, I’m alone in our once shared apartment of many, many years. I won’t be able to take her to a Latin Mass, she was upset at the loss of the TLM. We disagreed about Vatican II. Today I would have sacrificed my own personal beliefs to take her to a TLM. She would have been tickled and delighted. Is this selfish of me, YES you’re DARN RIGHT,it is. Yes, I’m feeling guilt and remorse for things that she will miss, people she won’t see, family reunion, seeing all her children together at once (She put up 3 daughters for adoption, but kept me), I could’ve done things differently for her, we could’ve traveled (she liked to travel and do things some times on the spur of the moment), but I’m afraid of flying. Even in death, as in life she loved me, by her sacrificing to provide for me.

In spite of it all. I know she doesn’t have to suffer any more. She had many hurts in her life. No longer does she have CHF, bad hip, bad back, COPD,developing cataracts& macular degeneration,hearing loss, maybe Demetia and maybe Alzheimer’s. To this last two, I’m grateful that God called her home before those diseases took hold. She still had a fairly good memory and behavior. (Although, I still disagree with the diagnosis). I pray for her for soul. And still for my Grandparents. Even though my Grandpa (26 yrs) and Grandma (21 yrs) since their deaths. They too are freed from pain and suffering. I’m happy and sad. That’s normal human reaction. Don’t deny your humaniness.
 
My Dad has been gone for nearly 20 years. I still cry… sometimes… when I think about him. Is it because I want him back here with me, in this land of exile? No. It’s because I’m human, and have a human heart… and I miss him.

Lily brought up a very good point, that Jesus Himself, cried… upon learning of Lazarus’ death; He asked Lazarus’ sister:

“Where have you laid him? They said to Him, ‘Lord, come and see’. And Jesus wept. The Jews therefore said, ‘See how He loved him’” (John 11:35-36).

Shedding tears over the death of someone you love is part of being human. I am happy that my Dad is with Our Lord, but I will not stop missing him… until the day that I see him again, in Heaven. God bless. 🙂
 
Hi Airborne and welcome to CAF!
It is sad to see someone so young pass away. Yes, I sometimes wondered why, and I never had a solid solutions for it because this is beyond what I really need to know.

Have you ever wondered why Jesus died so young, at age of 33 ? (with only 3 years of ministry) - He is not only good, but beyond all good. He could’ve stayed another 40 years or so to do more good for us?
 
How do you know they are in a better place? They could be in Purgatory suffering or God forbid, Hell. Part of the point of funerals of course is to console all the family members and friends but it also is to offer prayers up so this person can be with God in Heaven. There is so much more a person can do if given the chance to live a longer life. Now in some cases the longer one lives the deeper they might fall into sin, but my guess is that in a lot of cases, living longer lives allows more time to prepare for Heaven and serve God. To my understanding, while the saints can help us in Heaven, there is nothing a soul in Purgatory can do to help himself so the time for that is life on Earth.
 
I like this trooper. Book of Wisdom 3:1 But the souls of the just are in the hand of God, and the torment of death shall not touch them. 2 In the sight of the unwise they seemed to die: and their departure was taken for misery: 3 And their going away from us, for utter destruction: but they are in peace. 4 And though in the sight of men they suffered torments, their hope is full of immortality. 5 Afflicted in few things, in many they shall be well rewarded: because God hath tried them, and found them worthy of himself.
 
I would still be an atheist if God had not taken the life of a young lady. She died in my arms when I stopped to help at an automobile accident in the Nevada desert.

I can only imagine the suffering her parents endured, and still endure now 5 years later.

But because of her, I am now Catholic.

We can never understand the impacts of life and death on others. As Catholics, we know that suffering can be redemptive and can be for the purification of our souls; a Purgatory on Earth if you will.

Unfortunately, many do not realize this and this concept is utterly absent in most Protestant theology.

May God grant the woman in the OP peace.
 
Of course people cry when someone dies.
Even though your faith tells you they will be with God (hopefully) and they could be in a better place, you still cry, because your human psychie sees the DEATH of that person.

That is why I cried when my Dad died.
But after a while, you get over the initial shock, and it does not hurt so bad. But I am still sad because I will not be seeing him again in this life.

But think of this…if my Dad had not died, but instead was going to leave for a long trip from which he would never return…I would be crying just the same. Because I know I will never see him again.
 
We cry for a lot of reasons, most of them good. We cry because that person made an impact on our lives. We will miss them even though we may believe they are in Heaven. We cry because we see the pain of their family members, even if we are only distantly or hardly associated with them at all.

To mourn a friend or loved one is a virtue not a vice. It is an act of chaity not one of selfishness. It shows how much we cared and that is a good thing. It is a sign of compassion and empathy and that is something that Jesus also showed. It is far more Christ-like to cry than to be stoic or unemotional.

It is our macho culture that looks down on folks who weep, but it takes more courage to openly weep than it does to hold it all in. We are afraid to show weakness, but it is far healthier to weep than not to.
 
Something that omitted in the initial thread is as follows. When death claims a loved one it is more just to carry on that person in the way you lead life by the footprints they left in your life; than it is to cry and move on. I don’t know, honestly why I believe in this so strongly but I do. Don’t get me wrong I’m not putting any of you down for shedding tears. I understand that is natural and healthy. Tears come to my eyes before joy comes to my heart, but I just don’t think death is as bad as it’s made out to be.

Try this on for size. I’m not afraid of death and my reasoning is as follows.Time, not death will lead us apart. While we are alive in time we stray from each other. But in death we are all together. Existence is a war against time not death. We will all die but time makes us do it much sooner. But can we not realize that time is a reaction to our own desire? There is light and there is dark these things are definite. But the day and night have no definition. Just like good and evil. But what constitutes good from evil is of our own creation. I despise not death for it has no say. But for time I display my malice, but since I have proved by a matter of accusation that time is nonexistent it can therein be stated that time is the disguise of life. And when you have the mental ability to remove it you free your’ thoughts from time and all that remains is life. But I am in no way a fan of life for it has no peace, and in death I will find my peace. I fear not the reunion of death but loath the life that keeps us apart.
 
Hi Airborne 21B,
I read your last post, and a couple things jumped out at me. The first being you’re not afraid of dying. That is good in a Christian context, because Jesus conquered death. That it has no more power over us. Unfortunately, a lot of people including myself are still afraid even though we know better. It is a normal human reaction. We don’t have perfect love, because if we did it cast out all fear.I hope and trust your fear of not dying doesn’t lead to something reckless?
The thing that jumped out to me was maybe we are putting too negativty on dying. You’re right. Well that’s what Vatican II help to change. Before V2 the Mass of the Dead was called a Requiem Mass (](You know I think I’ll defer to someone who truly knows about pre-Vatican II burial rites). Today’s Rite of Christian Burial reflects two themes: JOY, at the completion of the earthly pilgrimage of the dead person and begins their union with Jesus, hope that through prayers of the survivors they rest will be hastened. It also shows our connection with dying and rising after being baptized. How we died to our oldselves. We are a new creation.
The vestments, the pall on the casket and other enviromental enhancements are usually white. This color is the same for Baptisms, Christmas Season, Easter Season, etc. It symbolizes innocence, purity, VICTORY, JOY. In the US black or violet can be used as optional colors.
 
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