Dungeons & Dragons roleplay. Yes or no?

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I’ll add too, we played for several hours at a time and maybe 6 to 8 times at most. Role playing, not much different than being in drama IMO. I agree some can get carried away but for the most part that goes for anything.
 
It is an argument of satan that playing with something evil is harmless. The Bible says to stay away from socery and witchcraft. Playing with it is only a tool for satan to “teach” you about it and make it seem harmless. It is sad to see children indoctrinated into satanism and witchcraft and opening the door to satan.
 
Dungeons & Dragons PARALLELS satanic rituals, just like Harry Potter books parallel witchcraft rituals. It is sugar-coated poison. (Can you hear satan saying the apples looks good and will be good for you?) You become indoctrinated and fascinated with solving problems by casting “spell” and using “potions” and getting help from spirit monsters to overcome enemies. Even grown men and women become so wrapped up in the “game” that it becomes hard to separate it from their daily lives. I’ve seen the progression from board game to acting role-playing fantasies to committing criminal acts. It would be better to cultivate a life of prayer (conversation) with God and the saints than to fantasize about how to “magically” take care of obstacles.
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“Magic” in Harry Potter has nothing whatsoever to do with the occult. Casting spells in Harry Potter doesn’t resemble casting real spells. Spell names in Harry Potter are all mangled Latin phrases and have nothing to do with the occult. Magic in Harry Potter is of a totally different nature than occult magic: it has nothing whatsoever to do with contacting demons or even harnessing supernatural power. Rather, it is merely a part of the natural world. “Magic”–as the word is used in the Bible and the occult–does not even make an appearance in Harry Potter. J.K. Rowling is a Christian of the Church of Scotland, and I find it extremely rude and unacceptable to slander her like this.

I have never in my life heard a true story of someone who began confusing fantasy with reality and committing crimes after he played D&D. I have definitely never heard it proven that a person began confusing fantasy with reality and committing crimes because he played D&D. Can you provide me with a shred of evidence for either?

Finally, I have never met a D&D player who became obsessed with solving problems via “magic.” Often times, I have seen D&D players who acquired an interest in solving problems via clever abstract thinking, which is a very positive thing.
 
bluebutterfly said:
It is an argument of satan that playing with something evil is harmless. The Bible says to stay away from socery and witchcraft. Playing with it is only a tool for satan to “teach” you about it and make it seem harmless. It is sad to see children indoctrinated into satanism and witchcraft and opening the door to satan.
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Hmm, this sounds a lot like one of those “preconceived prejudices” I was talking about in another thread. :rolleyes:

How many people do you even personally know who play these sorts of games or read Harry Potter? Believe it or not, internet blogs are not a substitute for facts.
 
“Magic” in Harry Potter has nothing whatsoever to do with the occult.
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RPG games software or D&D, sorry I see it no more (really less) occultish than Harry Potter. If wicca and witchcraft is not occult these days… Lord, I’m trying to understand. Yeah, I dabbled with spells in my wandering days, drawing a card from a deck saying you ‘cast a spell’ compared with actually reciting a spell is a whole different ball park. I know, it’s seen innocent these days and I do truly feel bad for that. Harry Potter was way too close to the real thing, I saw 10 mins at most and that was enough. Will never watch another.
 
Transformer said:
“Magic” in Harry Potter has nothing whatsoever to do with the occult. Casting spells in Harry Potter doesn’t resemble casting real spells.
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That is the danger. It is parallel and can easily be dismissed (i.e. not REAL spells). “Evil” is not combated with the power of God or in the name of Jesus in those stories. We cannot fight the devil with our own strength. It is foolish and arrogant to think we can and suicide to try, yet those books teach children to play at it. Then, they are more open to step over the line with the allure of satanic power.
 
bluebutterfly said:
Transformer;4283772 said:
“Magic” in Harry Potter has nothing whatsoever to do with the occult. Casting spells in Harry Potter doesn’t resemble casting real spells. QUOTE]

That is the danger. It is parallel and can easily be dismissed (i.e. not REAL spells). “Evil” is not combated with the power of God or in the name of Jesus in those stories. We cannot fight the devil with our own strength. It is foolish and arrogant to think we can and suicide to try, yet those books teach children to play at it. Then, they are more open to step over the line with the allure of satanic power.
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And do you personally know any of these satanic children?
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I’ve known people who have gotten entangled in that world. Power, especially satanic power, can be very addicting and once you become obsessed it is very hard to pull away. (Abusers, like satan, don’t like to give up their control.) Once you start wishing you could solve your real-life problems like you can solve your fantasy problems, satan can offer you the “real” thing. It is playing with fire.
 
CTA1967 said:
Hmm, this sounds a lot like one of those “preconceived prejudices” I was talking about in another thread. :rolleyes:

How many people do you even personally know who play these sorts of games or read Harry Potter? Believe it or not, internet blogs are not a substitute for facts.
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I have known many actually. It was tragic. Some woke up and denounced it. Some got deeper and deeper and were lost.
 
bluebutterfly said:
Some got deeper and deeper and were lost.
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How do you know they were becoming satanic? What is your definition of “lost”? People who condemn others as being satanic generally present the false dichotomy of “If you don’t think exactly how I think, you belong to the devil”.
 
I haven’t played D and D in many years.

But–seven years ago, I started writing novels and screenplays.

It seems to me that there is a lot of similiarity between D and D and writing fiction.

I make up characters, settings, and plots. Isn’t that what D and D players do? It’s what we did when we played.

My characters are not all good. A good piece of fiction in any genre has a truly bad villain, and my novels and screenplays have some NASTY villains who sin with impunity. (I don’t use graphic language in any of my writing.) Isn’t this what D and D players do–create and battle villains?

My good characters fall into sin. Doesn’t this happen to the best of D and D characters with a bum roll of the dice?

Not all of my characters are Christians. Certainly true of D and D.

So far, I haven’t done any fantasy fiction, so I’m not into creating creatures and magic spells and wondrous worlds. No witches, vampires, or other monsters or spirits. But I have “ghosts” in my stories (big spoiler–they turn out not to be ghosts–maybe).

So what makes D and D “bad” for some Christians, but fiction writing “not bad?”

OR…when I was Protestant, I knew Christians who believed that ALL pretend was evil. They wouldn’t even let their children pretend to talk to animals, be a fairy, or play house because they believed only in reality, not fantasy. Is that how some of you feel, that ALL fiction is of the Evil One? But how do you reconcile that with the fact that Jesus made up parables?
 
CTA1967 said:
How do you know they were becoming satanic? What is your definition of “lost”? People who condemn others as being satanic generally present the false dichotomy of “If you don’t think exactly how I think, you belong to the devil”.
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Because they stepped over the line. Some became afraid and had a hard time getting free. Others enjoyed the illusion of “power” and got deeper and deeper and were totally consumed by and obsessed evil (which leads to crimes). It’s like pot (marijuana). It starts people out, thinking it’s harmless, then they want and need more and more until they become addicted and overdose on something more lethal. It becomes a way to cope with the problems of life. It makes God jealous. The First Commandment says to have no other gods before God.

You do not write from a Christian perspective.
 
To repeat what Cat said, do you think that all fantasy is evil? Should we not let our children play pretend?
 
At this point in my life yes, I’m more concerned with what is bringing me to Jesus and living the life I should be living. I can honestly say had I not been a dabbler in the occult and played D&D I see nothing in D&D itself that would have led me to the occult. Maybe there’s diferences in the decks of cards, I don’t know… I at most played 8 times… saying “I cast the spell of invisibility” didn’t mimic witchcraft/wicca to me… I’m not telling everyone to go play D&D, I’m just saying compared to saying actual spells which most likely were taught to the actors by actual wiccans/witches… see what I mean? I can say “I just punched you in the arm and you fell” as opposed to actually punching you in the arm so hard that you lost balance and fell… two different scenarios entirely.

It does blow my mind quite honestly that Harry Potter is defended but D&D is seen as much worse. Granted, I only played 8 times and played with 2 other people who were friends. Maybe other D&D games get weird, I don’t know. This all occured late 90’s early 2000 and I don’t play anymore. I have no interest to but I do still have RPG games on my computer… I rarely play those as well but they’re based on the same principle, picking a character and doing what that character would do. There was no spell recitation when I played D&D… I wouldn’t want to teach kids about spells from real wiccans though. Sorry.
 
I used to play all the time in my younger days but then I read the the Harry Potter books. As many have noted that can suck you into the dark side. Why play make-believe when you can do the real thing?

CONFUNDUS!
 
CTA1967 said:
Red herring. You’re avoiding the question.
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Yes, I did answer it. You asked if fantasy is evil. It is if it leads you to turn away from God and to align yourself with satan. Jesus said if you aren’t with Him, you are against Him. If you fantasize about having satanic-like powers to hurt others, to get riches, to have sex, etc. that leads you away from God. Simple as that.
 
Of course you can play. The question is, “Do you have the time for it?”

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The Zelda games or Illusion of Gaia, and the like… when you start the game (on your computer/RPG) and pick if you want to be a cleric, fighter, etc and your alignment etc… do you see those as satanic but Harry Potter still good? Do you understand where my confusion comes in on this thread?

In all reality, I would be more interested in studying the Bible, learning about the saints, Catholic doctrine etc now. I don’t even know the last time I played a game on my computer but I have the Sims (up to Vacation), Morrowind and a few others… haven’t played any of them since, probably last year. I know what I want to be studying now and I also know I need to keep job hunting.

I see no difference between D&D and the computer games I mentioned… again, maybe some of the decks are different. I know back in the 80’s I think I heard the first about them being such evil games yet I really haven’t seen that be the case.

Again, I only played 8 or less times with 2 friends and I don’t know about all decks of cards… I know you roll dice and that’s about all I remember. If I’m missing something I apologize.
 
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