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Has anyone read the H P Lovecraft story or seen the films?
I read the short story because I got it free on my kindle, it is hard to read due to the writing style. It’s written in a colloquial Massachussets type of speaking and I couldn’t understand 1/2 of it.

The newer film was on SyFy late last night and I saw the original years ago.

All of premises and even location were altered, instead of MA it is now in Texas. The story is so short they have to do a lot of filling in to get a 2 hour film.

I remember the first as being better and was disappointed by the second film. So disappointed I turned the set off and went to bed.
 
Has anyone read the H P Lovecraft story or seen the films?
I read the short story because I got it free on my kindle, it is hard to read due to the writing style. It’s written in a colloquial Massachussets type of speaking and I couldn’t understand 1/2 of it.

The newer film was on SyFy late last night and I saw the original years ago.

All of premises and even location were altered, instead of MA it is now in Texas. The story is so short they have to do a lot of filling in to get a 2 hour film.

I remember the first as being better and was disappointed by the second film. So disappointed I turned the set off and went to bed.
Just like nothing good can come from the history channel, nothing good can come from SYFY channel. Also Lovecraft is considered with Poe, to be one of America’s horror
masters, give him a chance!
 
Has anyone read the H P Lovecraft story or seen the films?
I read the short story because I got it free on my kindle, it is hard to read due to the writing style. It’s written in a colloquial Massachussets type of speaking and I couldn’t understand 1/2 of it.

The newer film was on SyFy late last night and I saw the original years ago.

All of premises and even location were altered, instead of MA it is now in Texas. The story is so short they have to do a lot of filling in to get a 2 hour film.

I remember the first as being better and was disappointed by the second film. So disappointed I turned the set off and went to bed.
The first film is a little hyper sexual even with some brief nudity…it’s also quite bizarre focusing on the occultishness, although it is not portrayed as something good. The book is fine literature, although I recall incantations being the means by which the story is resolved. All that being said, there is a sense of evil being evil in Lovecraft’s work.
 
Someone please explain to me the value in horror. Explain to me the nescessity of requiring Grade Schoolers to read Poe!?
 
I love The Dunwich Horror!

It’s a story in which an elderly man, a professor (in other words, an old nerd!), is the hero, and that’s pretty unusual. Actually all three professors are the “heroes” in this story, and I like that a lot! So often, the hero is a handsome young man or beautiful young woman. It’s neat when the oldsters are heroes!

I like the way this story is constructed, where we find out little by little exactly what “the Dunwich Horror” is. The feeling of anticipation and dread gets harder to bear as the story progresses!

I have never seen any adaptation of a Lovecraft story to a movie that was any good. I wish wish WISH!!! that a movie would be made that follows a Lovecraft story EXACTLY, and doesn’t try to throw in a bunch of side plots, or a scientific plot, or a morality lesson, or heaven forbid, a romance or sexual tryst.

The closest adaptation I’ve ever seen was an episode of Night Gallery that did “Pickman’s Model,” and as I remember it, it was very close to the Lovecraft story. (That’s a really good story, BTW, if you haven’t read it, and much shorter than Dunwich.)

I’m surprised you had such a hard time understanding the New England dialect. May I ask how old you are? And is the United States your homeland? I don’t remember having any trouble with the dialect even when I was young, but of course, I grew up in living in the country, so maybe that’s why. Try reading the story again now that you’ve been through it once, and see if it’s any easier to understand.

One of my favorite things to do is read Lovecraft in bed late at night on a hot, sticky summer evening with the window open and no air conditioning. I grew up on a farm, and my room was upstairs in the corner of the farmhouse, and I spent a lot of evenings in that antique bed on hot summer nights reading Lovecraft! Usually at least one cat would join me on the bed–it’s tough to be a cat on hot, humid days! There’s something about Lovecraft stories that makes them better in the summer than in the winter. Try it!

And I think that Dunwich is one of the more complex Lovecraft stories. Try reading “In The Vault,” or “The Outsider,” or “Rats in the Walls,” or “Thing on the Doorstep” or “Pickman’s Model.” These stories are much shorter. “Thing on the Doorstep” is very sad. I think the BEST Lovecraft story is “Shadow Over Innsmouth,” but it’s really long and has a lot of the dialect that you find difficult to understand.
 
Your message reminded me that I have a very old Lovecraft book with many different stories in it. It has a picture of a skeleton on the cover. The book belonged to my parents, and the stories are based on the supernatural…

The way he writes is different from how books are written these days. They are classic stories. I remember one about a skeleton standing at someone’s door. I’ll have to look through the book one day and see what’s in there. It could fall apart on me if I’m not careful.

It reminds me of “The Portrait of Dorian Gray.” The artist who painted the Dorian Gray picture for the movie donated it to the Chicago Art Institute after the movie was made. Ivan Albright was the artist, and he painted a lot of macabre pictures. Dorian Gray topped the cake. That movie sent my husband running out of the theater. (he was just a kid at the time.)
 
It seems like very few movies based on Lovecraft’s stories turn out any good. That type of horror is hard to nail down in a film.
 
Your message reminded me that I have a very old Lovecraft book with many different stories in it. It has a picture of a skeleton on the cover. The book belonged to my parents, and the stories are based on the supernatural…

The way he writes is different from how books are written these days. They are classic stories. I remember one about a skeleton standing at someone’s door. I’ll have to look through the book one day and see what’s in there. It could fall apart on me if I’m not careful.

It reminds me of “The Portrait of Dorian Gray.” The artist who painted the Dorian Gray picture for the movie donated it to the Chicago Art Institute after the movie was made. Ivan Albright was the artist, and he painted a lot of macabre pictures. Dorian Gray topped the cake. That movie sent my husband running out of the theater. (he was just a kid at the time.)
I think the skeleton story must be “The Outsider.” Frankly, I think that all middle school students should read this story. It’s a wonderful (and sad) “fitting in” story that would probably help a lot of young teenagers express their fears and frustrations about fitting in with their peers.

BTW, I feel I should mention, for the sake of parents who don’t know who Lovecraft is, that he did not have a very “Christian” life. He wrote in the early decades of the 20th Century. He lived with two aunts, and was reclusive, only coming out at night. He was an atheist. He was a homosexual, although whether or not he ever had any lovers is uncertain.

None of this matters in his stories. But it does, perhaps, explain some of his stories, which delve into “being outside the norm.” Only instead of being homosexual, his characters tend to be “fish people”, or people who are slowly turning into fish people! And sometimes his characters are dead, and that’s why they don’t fit in with others!

There is a vein of humor that runs through all the Lovecraft stories–think of Daddy pretending to be a boogey man or a mad dog (see Laura Ingalls Wilder Little House books), and scaring his little children, who scream and then beg Daddy to “do it again, please!” That’s kind of what many Lovecraft stories are like–scary, but fun.

The one exception, IMO, is Colour Out Of Space. This story is about the dangers of “radiation.” Lovecraft enjoyed reading scientific journals, and he knew about early atomic theory. There is nothing at all “fun” about Colour Out of Space. It’s a good reminder to all of us of our own fragility. I think it’s one of his best. Unfortunately, from what I understand, the movies based on this story are pretty stupid. The problem is, the story moves much more slowly than is appropriate for a movie; the “transition” and demise of the Gardner family takes place over many months (as they are affected adversely by the “colour” that fell out of space), and it’s subtle at first. This isn’t the stuff that movies are good at depicting–it’s best in a written story so that we can empathize with the family and wish with all our heart that something, someone could help them, please! Their friend in the story tries to help them, but he can’t…soooo sad! (And he’s a hero for standing by the Gardners.)

Again, it’s yet another story about a family who, through no fault of their own, is “different” than other families. A common theme in Lovecraft stories, probably because of his own “differences.”
 
Someone please explain to me the value in horror. Explain to me the nescessity of requiring Grade Schoolers to read Poe!?
I guess you never experienced the thrill of ghost stories around a campfire.
 
I love The Dunwich Horror!

It’s a story in which an elderly man, a professor (in other words, an old nerd!), is the hero, and that’s pretty unusual. Actually all three professors are the “heroes” in this story, and I like that a lot! So often, the hero is a handsome young man or beautiful young woman. It’s neat when the oldsters are heroes!

I like the way this story is constructed, where we find out little by little exactly what “the Dunwich Horror” is. The feeling of anticipation and dread gets harder to bear as the story progresses!

I have never seen any adaptation of a Lovecraft story to a movie that was any good. I wish wish WISH!!! that a movie would be made that follows a Lovecraft story EXACTLY, and doesn’t try to throw in a bunch of side plots, or a scientific plot, or a morality lesson, or heaven forbid, a romance or sexual tryst.

The closest adaptation I’ve ever seen was an episode of Night Gallery that did “Pickman’s Model,” and as I remember it, it was very close to the Lovecraft story. (That’s a really good story, BTW, if you haven’t read it, and much shorter than Dunwich.)

I’m surprised you had such a hard time understanding the New England dialect. May I ask how old you are? And is the United States your homeland? I don’t remember having any trouble with the dialect even when I was young, but of course, I grew up in living in the country, so maybe that’s why. Try reading the story again now that you’ve been through it once, and see if it’s any easier to understand.

One of my favorite things to do is read Lovecraft in bed late at night on a hot, sticky summer evening with the window open and no air conditioning. I grew up on a farm, and my room was upstairs in the corner of the farmhouse, and I spent a lot of evenings in that antique bed on hot summer nights reading Lovecraft! Usually at least one cat would join me on the bed–it’s tough to be a cat on hot, humid days! There’s something about Lovecraft stories that makes them better in the summer than in the winter. Try it!

And I think that Dunwich is one of the more complex Lovecraft stories. Try reading “In The Vault,” or “The Outsider,” or “Rats in the Walls,” or “Thing on the Doorstep” or “Pickman’s Model.” These stories are much shorter. “Thing on the Doorstep” is very sad. I think the BEST Lovecraft story is “Shadow Over Innsmouth,” but it’s really long and has a lot of the dialect that you find difficult to understand.
I am 56 years old, but I have had a stroke which impared my cognitive abilities. I was born in New Mexico and have lived there and Texas and Central Illinois SPFLD.
 
Speaking of homosexuals the protagonist in both pictures is played by the same actor. He was in an older b&w movie where he and his gay lover who are Jewish as well plan and execute the so-called “perfect crime” in Chicago. They murder a Jewish boy, but they are eventually caught and executed.

He was in a television show I forgot the name of where he played the side kick of Scott Bacula who time travels and goes into different people’s bodies, sometimes even women’s bodies.
 
Someone please explain to me the value in horror. Explain to me the nescessity of requiring Grade Schoolers to read Poe!?
Depends on the story. Something like the Exorcism of Emily Rose has some edifying Catholic themes. Maybe not for children, but certainly a value in the realm of entertainment and a good story without gratuitous immorality. But like I said, depends on the story. A good and evil story can work in the genre of horror too. Obviously something like a straight slasher or gore flick is probably of a different type of horror than say The Sixth Sense, which has some very edifying and intelligent qualities.
 
Speaking of homosexuals the protagonist in both pictures is played by the same actor. He was in an older b&w movie where he and his gay lover who are Jewish as well plan and execute the so-called “perfect crime” in Chicago. They murder a Jewish boy, but they are eventually caught and executed.

He was in a television show I forgot the name of where he played the side kick of Scott Bacula who time travels and goes into different people’s bodies, sometimes even women’s bodies.
The show was Quantum Leap and the actor is Dean Stockwell. I didn’t like the movie version. I haven’t seen the new one and I heard from more than one source that it wasn’t worth it (and now I’ve heard the same here so I won’t seek it out).

HP Lovecraft was just a creepy dude. But my favorite part of The Dunwich Horror (and it was my favorite part for the wrong reason) was the last scene when they’re actually fighting “the horror” and the narration is coming from someone watching the action from a distance with (I think) binoculars (can’t look it up to verify now) and giving, essentially, a play-by-play account of what was happening. I actually laughed. 😃 Not the point of view that I would have chosen to write that scene. But up until that moment it was (and still is) one of the creepiest stories I’ve ever read. Just that last scene kind of killed it for me.

The movie, too, was far too “hippy” for me. They should have made it a period piece. Would have been far creepier.
 
I love The Dunwich Horror!

It’s a story in which an elderly man, a professor (in other words, an old nerd!), is the hero, and that’s pretty unusual. Actually all three professors are the “heroes” in this story, and I like that a lot! So often, the hero is a handsome young man or beautiful young woman. It’s neat when the oldsters are heroes!

I like the way this story is constructed, where we find out little by little exactly what “the Dunwich Horror” is. The feeling of anticipation and dread gets harder to bear as the story progresses!
I agree. But did you have trouble with the narration of the “battle” at the end? I swear I giggle a bit every time I think of it. 😃 Just curious…
 
I know I read the Dunwich Horror back in high school (mid 70’s), and remember the TV movie with that name, which was more based on The Colors Out of Space. But I cannot remember
Dunwich Horror now.

Lovecraft, like Doyle, A.A. Milne, Poe, etc, wrote in a slower age. It’s sometimes difficult to get into those books.

But there are a lot of Lovecraft stories that haunt me. And yes, I agree that I have yet to see a good movie based on one of his stories. (And why do they keep mislabelling them? The SciFi channel movie Dagon was mostly Shadow over Innsmouth… )

The movie Re-Animator wasn’t a bad horror movie, but years after seeing it, I read the short story ( available with a lot if not most of his stuff here: dagonbytes.com/thelibrary/lovecraft/ ). The story was creepy!

OK, just skimmed over Dunwich. I remember it now. I think the ending just didn’t fit with the feel of the rest.

Anyone heard of “Shoggoth on the Roof”?

Tom A.
“ever hear tell of a shoggoth?” a line from Shadow over Innsmouth that didn’t mean anything when I first read it, but years later, after reading At the Mountains of Madness made me shudder.
 
The movie “The Call of Cthulhu” wasn’t bad. It was made as a silent movie, as if it was made in the 1920s. It’s available on DVD through Amazon.
 
My husband read through this thread with great interest, and asked me to post this.

Anyone who is interested in hearing Lovecraft’s stories and learning more about them from people who really know their stuff, try the H.P Lovecraft Literary Podcast on iTunes.

Or you can go to the website hppodcraft.com
At the bottom, select “older episodes” to get the H.P. Lovecraft shows
 
Someone please explain to me the value in horror. Explain to me the nescessity of requiring Grade Schoolers to read Poe!?
Ther is no necessity for any particular genre of literature. A lot of horror is spiritually disturbing. Some is actually edifying for me. I refer specifically to the works of Dean Koontz which is chocked full of truth shrouded in story.
 
My husband read through this thread with great interest, and asked me to post this.

Anyone who is interested in hearing Lovecraft’s stories and learning more about them from people who really know their stuff, try the H.P Lovecraft Literary Podcast on iTunes.

Or you can go to the website hppodcraft.com
At the bottom, select “older episodes” to get the H.P. Lovecraft shows
I will give it a shot later! Thanks.
 
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