So, where in the Bible does it say that to be a leader, one has to have more writings than Paul?
I believe I heard Fr. Mitch Pacwa say on Catholic radio that the Gospel of Peter was written about 100 or 200 years after the death of the last Apostle (John). But also that the Gospel of Mark is pretty much the Gospel of Peter, as it was Mark, Peter’s companion, that wrote down what Peter preached. The Catholic Church decided that the Gospel of Mark was inspired, while the later Gospel of Peter was not inspired, and thus, left out of the Canon of the Bible.
Well if you studied your Church history you would know. Please see here for details, newadvent.org/cathen/11744a.htm It is most likely that Paul was Martyred at a time in close proximity to Peter and if Paul did write concerning the death of Peter the letter(s) did not survive.
I think you’re correct except for how Henry’s break did affected your church. For instance in the Anglican acceptance of women into the priesthood.
Omar,
Thank you Bill for this passage. I have been looking for it. :thankyou:I think there are other threads that could use it also.
I believe you would have just as hard of a time, maybe harder, getting “Trinity” from Tradition as you would from scripture. From the “Church” yes, but from Tradition, prior to the Council of Nicaea, not so much.
If there were in fact an established Tradition about the Holy Trinity that Tradition could have been used as effectively as Scripture could have been use to convince those who did not believe. But among the early Christian groups known, namely, Ebionites, Marcionites, Catholics, and Gnostics, only the Marcionites and the Catholics believed that Jesus was God; and most of the very early Catholics may not have believed this due to their early close relationship to the Ebionites. And as far as the “Trinity”, you don’t hear anything about it until the mid-second century from some Catholic Church Fathers who were at that time a small minority of all types of Christians. Although Marcionites believed that Jesus was God, they did not teach a doctrine of the Trinity.
And, may I ask why do you think God would choose someone who was poor, uneducated and full of faults? How many times do we stick our foots in our mouths? Do you think God is not capable of first forgiving us when we do sin and second, is God not capable of working thru us, incapable as we are, His Glory? Of course, He is very capable and He does.
He uses us, especially those who are poor, uneducated and sinful to reveal the fullness of His Glory, not ours! Look at Moses as a perfect example. Moses was concerned about his lack of eloquence in his speech to go before the elders, but God had a plan and used Moses to reveal that plan. Just like He does in our own lives even today.
How many times does God use those who are poor, uneducated and full of faults to reveal His message still today? He does it all the time. It is God working through us to bring about His Glory and His greatness not ours. He does desire us to share in His Glory and His fullness and to preach it to all people so they too can know God now. It is in His Church, the holy, Catholic Church that the fullness of His Son, Jesus Christ is revealed for all. By saying that the Church is holy doesn’t mean that every member is always holy. Jesus said in Scripture that there would be good and bad members in His Church (Jn. 6:70) and that not all of His members would go to Heaven (Mt. 7:21-23). But the Church is holy because it is the source of holiness and is the guardian of the special means of grace Jesus established thru the Sacraments (Eph. 5:25-27).
The Magisterium is infallible when it teaches officially because Jesus promised to send the Holy Spirit to guide and guard the apostles and their successors into all truths and you are not allowing yourself to understand this by thinking that the pope has to be “holy” in his daily thoughts and actions. Why do you think clergy frequent confession. It is when he is teaching the truths of Jesus’ teachings that the pope is infallible.
So are all the members of your Church holy? They’re not in my Catholic Church and neither am I. That is why Jesus instituted the Sacrament of Reconciliation to restore our relationship with God the Father and with our fellow man.using your logic, where does it say in the Bible that Peter was the first pope of the Roman Catholic church? Where does it say that the Roman Catholic church is the bride of Christ for that matter as well?
But yet Jesus time and time again referenced the Scriptures when he preached and said, “it is written” on several occasions when trying to make points with people. You seem to forget the overall significance of Scripture in light of this.
It was the Early Christian Church.
Good. Now that we have finally answered that question I will start looking for one in my area and go tomorrow for true worship. I assume this Early Christian Church still exists right?It was the Early Christian Church.
Not Anglican, not Roman, not Methodist, not Lutheran.
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Certainly not Evangelical
Well, you’ll have to look for the things that were taught and practiced in the Early Church. Reading the Book of Acts will help out alot here.
And following your logic…where does it say anything about the anglican church?