Well . . .He’s lost his mind!
Who would go?
actually in some Orthodox and Easter Rite Easter liturgies it is still midnight to dawn (a bit earlier than 6 depending on where you are and date)He’s lost his mind!
Who would go?
One parish in Nova Scotia used to start their vigil at 2 am with a large bonfire that called everyone to the church. The Mass ended at dawn and the community then gathered for an Easter breakfast. When the priest first started that he expected a fight, due to the time. Instead, he had a full church".He will celebrate according to what the bishop decrees in his diocese, but yes there is a precedent. but if he follows the sacramentary and rites properly, even if there are several baptisms, even with all the readings, 4 hours tops, 3 more likely
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The regular Tenebrae liturgy used to start around 9, so the Mass started before noon, and the closing Vespers around 1Pm. This was et the Cathedrals, where everything was sung. In average parishes most of the Readings (12 prophecies) and prayers were only recited, so that was about 3 hours total.I’ve never heard of an Easter Vigil Mass being all night long… The longest I’ve ever heard of was 4 hours - and that was an old MC describing the pre-1950’s “Easter Vigil”, when it was still held on Holy Saturday morning. He was writing an article for a Latin Mass magazine and said the service used to start ay 6:30am and was usually over by 10:30am.
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One must change the Liturgy to make it all night long.
Up to 1955, the Holy Saturday Tenebrae was actually observed by many people on Good Friday evening - there was a tradition of anticipating Matins and Lauds the previous evening. The situation I described above was not “all night long”, it lasted for about 4 hours on Holy Saturday morning. I have attached a jpeg file showing the schedule for Westminster Cathedral on Holy Saturday 1939 in which the blessing of the fire and pashcal candle, the prophecies and the blessing of the font were at 9am followed by Mass at 11am, which would probably have resulted in a 4-hour liturgy, like the one I describe above. As you’ll notice on the picture, the Matins and Lauds of Easter Sunday were observed on the evening of Holy Saturday.The regular Tenebrae liturgy used to start around 9, so the Mass started before noon, and the closing Vespers around 1Pm. This was et the Cathedrals, where everything was sung. In average parishes most of the Readings (12 prophecies) and prayers were only recited, so that was about 3 hours total.
One must change the Liturgy to make it all night long.
What is the benefit of such a long liturgy? I think such length would actually backfire, and people would either 1) not attend, or 2) not be well disposed to get much out of it, as they would be so tired. It’s not a case of, if a little is good, more is better.Father said he was considering the easter vigil mass to be all night long…from night until 6:00 am. I know that that’s how they did it traditionally, but I thougth now they were only like 2-3 hours long.Does anyone else’s parish do this? Or has my priest lost his mind lol?
The participant is keeping Vigil at the tomb and awaiting the Resurrection. I personally would love a liturgical celebration that last longer than the two to three hours I hate that the liturgy is rushed because people are bemoaning that two to three hours is too long. I especially hate that they cut some of the readings. I think there are supposed to be seven readings with psalms between each readings but we only end up with three or four. People don’t have any problem spending two to three hours at a movie or sporting event so what is the deal when it comes to the liturgy? These secular events don’t make people “tired”.What is the benefit of such a long liturgy? I think such length would actually backfire, and people would either 1) not attend, or 2) not be well disposed to get much out of it, as they would be so tired. It’s not a case of, if a little is good, more is better.
And, what exactly would the liturgy consist of, to take up 4, 5, or 6 hours?
Even with all the readings and baptisms you’ll get about 4 hours out of the liturgy. In our parish, with all readings and no baptisms it lasts around 3 hours.The participant is keeping Vigil at the tomb and awaiting the Resurrection. I personally would love a liturgical celebration that last longer than the two to three hours I hate that the liturgy is rushed because people are bemoaning that two to three hours is too long. I especially hate that they cut some of the readings. I think there are supposed to be seven readings with psalms between each readings but we only end up with three or four. People don’t have any problem spending two to three hours at a movie or sporting event so what is the deal when it comes to the liturgy? These secular events don’t make people “tired”.
The Vigil is supposed to be OVER by dawn. You’ll still have at least a half hour to go before Mass is over.Wow I don’t think I’ve commented once on this yet lol, but I emailed my priest about this yesterday and found out I was confused.
He said that the procession into the church would be very early in the morining, before sunrise at about 5:30, and then the vigil would be very short(pretty small parish+no baptisms) and at about 6:45 the gospel would be read, and the sun would be rising at the same time.
…well thanks to all of you for replying anyway