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I love the Easter Vigil - the Exsultet, the Gloria, the journey through Salvation History in the readings, the Litany of the Saints. Its just beautiful.
I love the Easter Vigil - the Exsultet, the Gloria, the journey through Salvation History in the readings, the Litany of the Saints. Its just beautiful.
I donât know if holiest is the best word to use there but the Easter Vigil is the highest Solemnity of the year. No other day in the Church holds more importance. I know it sounds wrong to say the holiest mass of the year but the Church actually agrees with that view.It is wrong because it leads to such posts as # 38 which says : " I prefer the Easter Vigil Mass because from what I understand, itâs the holiest Mass of the year. "
That is an appalling thing to say about the Sacrifice of the Mass .
The Church doesnât use holiest mass but it is the greatest and most noble so that sounds like holiest.Of this nightâs Vigil, which is the greatest and most noble of all solemnities
Iâm pretty sure for jews the day is sunset to sunset and no midnight to midnight. I may be wrong but the tradition of the Church has always celebrated a Vigil Mass for the Lordâs resurrection. It may not make sense that Jesus rose the evening before the third day but the Church has celebrated it like that for a long time. (edited to avoid opening can of worms lol)I guess that might be part of my problem with it. âOn the third day, He rose again,â not the evening before. I would actually prefer to attend an Easter Day Mass at dawn, but good luck finding one of those these daysâŚ
All I can say is that every time Iâve gone to the Vigil, I couldnât wait for it to end.![]()
It depends on what a person means when they say âholiestâ. From my understanding, arkwright does have a point, that no mass has more intrinsic value than another, since it is the same Jesus being offered to the Father, which is of infinite worth/value. However, I donât think the OP is asking which one is of more intrinsic value, since thatâs not up for debate, but which one is more preferred due to the effect it may have on a person whoâs assisting at it, and I think that is an OK question to ask on these forums.I donât know if holiest is the best word to use there but the Easter Vigil is the highest Solemnity of the year. No other day in the Church holds more importance. I know it sounds wrong to say the holiest mass of the year but the Church actually agrees with that view.
from the Roman Missal.
The Church doesnât use holiest mass but it is the greatest and most noble so that sounds like holiest.
I guess you could say that but holy simply means set apart, the Easter Vigil is set apart from all other Days in the Church so in theory the Easter Vigil is the holiest Mass of the year because it is the most set apart. I guess I see what he is getting at but his reaction was not called for, there is nothing wrong in saying that the Easter Vigil is the holiest mass of the year because the Church says it is the highest solemnity of the year.It depends on what a person means when they say âholiestâ. From my understanding, arkwright does have a point, that no mass has more intrinsic value than another, since it is the same Jesus being offered to the Father, which is of infinite worth/value. However, I donât think the OP is asking which one is of more intrinsic value, since thatâs not up for debate, but which one is more preferred due to the effect it may have on a person whoâs assisting at it, and I think that is an OK question to ask on these forums.
But the thing is that the Church doesnât use the term âholiest.â If they meant to convey that thought, I would think theyâd have used it specifically. âGreatestâ and âmost nobleâ â âholiest.âI donât know if holiest is the best word to use there but the Easter Vigil is the highest Solemnity of the year. No other day in the Church holds more importance. I know it sounds wrong to say the holiest mass of the year but the Church actually agrees with that view.
from the Roman Missal.
The Church doesnât use holiest mass but it is the greatest and most noble so that sounds like holiest.
No worriesIâm pretty sure for jews the day is sunset to sunset and no midnight to midnight. I may be wrong but the tradition of the Church has always celebrated a Vigil Mass for the Lordâs resurrection. It may not make sense that Jesus rose the evening before the third day but the Church has celebrated it like that for a long time. (edited to avoid opening can of worms lol)
I understood the OP as asking which Mass others preferred for any reason, not specifically one of effect on the person assisting. Am I missing something?It depends on what a person means when they say âholiestâ. From my understanding, arkwright does have a point, that no mass has more intrinsic value than another, since it is the same Jesus being offered to the Father, which is of infinite worth/value. However, I donât think the OP is asking which one is of more intrinsic value, since thatâs not up for debate, but which one is more preferred due to the effect it may have on a person whoâs assisting at it, and I think that is an OK question to ask on these forums.
I believe my reaction was called for .I guess you could say that but holy simply means set apart, the Easter Vigil is set apart from all other Days in the Church so in theory the Easter Vigil is the holiest Mass of the year because it is the most set apart. I guess I see what he is getting at but his reaction was not called for, there is nothing wrong in saying that the Easter Vigil is the holiest mass of the year because the Church says it is the highest solemnity of the year.
Good to enjoy, I guess. My last Easter with my dad was at the hospital when he was dying.The Easter Vigil is such a beautiful mass, I love to attend it.
Also, the timing is a little more convenient so that you have Easter Sunday morning free to be with family!![]()
did you miss what I quoted from the missal?I believe my reaction was called for .
Nowhere does the Magisterium say that the Easter Vigil Mass is the holiest Mass of the year .
We are speaking about the Sacred Mysteries not a beauty contest .
One can also see it as a shot against the EF, since traditionally the Easter Vigil had been (I believe before 1970) a very special event but it wasnât considered a Mass which fulfilled the obligation. Just sayinâŚdid you miss what I quoted from the missal?
The Easter vigil is the highest solemnity of the year. Sure someone could mistakenly say it is the holiest Mass of the year but highest solemnity is regarding that liturgy pretty high.
Iâm just saying what the church is saying.One can also see it as a shot against the EF, since traditionally the Easter Vigil had been (I believe before 1970) a very special event but it wasnât considered a Mass which fulfilled the obligation. Just sayinâŚ
Mass attendance should never be âseen as a shotâ against anything or anyone.One can also see it as a shot against the EF, since traditionally the Easter Vigil had been (I believe before 1970) a very special event but it wasnât considered a Mass which fulfilled the obligation. Just sayinâŚ
No need for the smiley. The Church isnât saying it must be one or the other. Why not both? I refuse to answer to such polls which preclude the âbothâ or âallâ option.Iâm just saying what the church is saying.
I didnât say traditionalists wouldnât embrace the Easter Vigil. It was always special. In fact the entire Holy Week was. It was a very big deal when the Holy Week changes were made in 1955.It is glorious MassâŚ
And the kind of Mass that I would think traditionalists would embrace wholeheartedly.![]()
I think it was which one do you go to not which one should happen.No need for the smiley. The Church isnât saying it must be one or the other. Why not both? I refuse to answer to such polls which preclude the âbothâ or âallâ option.
I didnât say traditionalists wouldnât embrace the Easter Vigil. It was always special. In fact the entire Holy Week was. It was a very big deal when the Holy Week changes were made in 1955.
Wow! That sounds wonderful! I love going to Mass on Easter morning because it feels like the right start to the day, however if there was a Mass where I live that started pre-dawn and culminated with the sunrise, I would go to that!There was a parish in Nova Scotia that used to have their Vigil in the middle of the night. Their ânew fireâ was actually a bonfire that called the parishioners to the church. When they originally did it the Pastor didnât expect to have too many at the Vigil but the church was packed. I donât know if they still do it that way but they had great success in the early years.
My preference would be a middle of the night Vigil, followed by matins at dawn, lauds around 8 am followed by the Easter Day Mass. Iâd stay for all 4.
I wonder at what time OraLaboraâs Vigil is at the Abbey?
It depends on what a person means when they say âholiestâ. From my understanding, arkwright does have a point, that no mass has more intrinsic value than another, since it is the same Jesus being offered to the Father, which is of infinite worth/value. However, I donât think the OP is asking which one is of more intrinsic value, since thatâs not up for debate, but which one is more preferred due to the effect it may have on a person whoâs assisting at it, and I think that is an OK question to ask on these forums.