Eastern Catholicism = The True Church?

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I was recently told by a Ruthenian gentleman that the Eastern Catholics are the One, True Church and that the Roman Catholic Church and Orthodox Churches are both in schism from Her.

I found this to be weird.

Is this a view held by many people or did I happen to be talking to a weird guy or do I just not understand?
 
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That guy does not know what he is talking about. The Latin Church and Eastern Churches are all equal.
 
Actually, the Eastern Orthodox are not equal with the Eastern/Western Catholics. I can’t wait for them to be Catholic again because we need them and they need us. But they are schismatics and therefore outside the “pale of the Church” (cf. Catechism of the Council of Trent)

I trust our dialog with them will bear fruit someday!
 
mattwcu said:
Actually, the Eastern Orthodox are not equal with the Eastern/Western Catholics. I can’t wait for them to be Catholic again because we need them and they need us. But they are schismatics and therefore outside the “pale of the Church” (cf. Catechism of the Council of Trent)

I trust our dialog with them will bear fruit someday!
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They may be schismatics, but they are not heretics (‘dunno’ about the Oriental Orthodox).

Besides, suppose there is a reunion. Does that mean that all of their followers and saints before the union were schismatics?
 
Kook said:
I was recently told by a Ruthenian gentleman that the Eastern Catholics are the One, True Church and that the Roman Catholic Church and Orthodox Churches are both in schism from Her.

I found this to be weird.

Is this a view held by many people or did I happen to be talking to a weird guy or do I just not understand?
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Seeing as the Latin Church is in full Communion with the Eastern Catholic Churches, this man doesn’t seem to know what he’s talking about when he says there is a schism between them.

Peace and God bless!
 
thunderballs75 said:
They may be schismatics, but they are not heretics (‘dunno’ about the Oriental Orthodox).

Besides, suppose there is a reunion. Does that mean that all of their followers and saints before the union were schismatics?
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I believe the general practice has been that Eastern Catholics have brought their saints with them. Even though at times these met with opposition.

Would it be possible to effect a reunion while demanding other Christians abandon some of their beloved saints? It’s a good question.

I suppose that helps illustrate the difference between reconciliation and submission.
 
headin_home said:
Seeing as the Latin Church is in full Communion with the Eastern Catholic Churches, this man doesn’t seem to know what he’s talking about when he says there is a schism between them.

Peace and God bless!
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As can likely be seen by the ending blessing, that was my post from a friend’s computer. 😛
 
headin_home said:
Seeing as the Latin Church is in full Communion with the Eastern Catholic Churches, this man doesn’t seem to know what he’s talking about when he says there is a schism between them.

Peace and God bless!
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\I was recently told by a Ruthenian gentleman that the Eastern Catholics are the One, True Church and that the Roman Catholic Church and Orthodox Churches are both in schism from Her.\

Keep in mind that most Eastern Catholics have their own hierarchy and are not under the local Latin bishops.
 
bpbasilphx said:
Keep in mind that most Eastern Catholics have their own hierarchy and are not under the local Latin bishops.
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I’m sorry, I must have missed something, I don’t understand how your statement is a response to the OP.
 
peregrinus_sg said:
I’m sorry, I must have missed something, I don’t understand how your statement is a response to the OP.
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It leads a number of less well informed to presume that there is a schism.

The Ruthenians are part of the True Church; to a Ruthenian Catholic, it’s likely to be the truest expression of the true church. Same with the Romans. And the Ukrainians, Melkites, Mozarabics, Copts, Ethiopians, Chaldeans, etc. Well, most of them; there are schisms in almost all cases.

Moreover, the Orthodox are still the true church as well; the church is divided, but working to heal that split; like a tree split by lightning, both are still the tree, even as all they still share is the roots, and some spots where the two halves have intertwined.

None of them are THE true church, all of them are true churches, and part of THE true church, to greater (Catholic communion) or lesser (EO, OO communions, the SSPV, the UAOC, the FSSJ) degrees.
 
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