A
Aramis
Guest
Saying the hours alone is permitted (using reader’s forms), but is unlikely to fulfill the obligation without special individual indult.
- Status
P
pickguard1
Guest
This is slightly off topic, but relevant, I hope - Where/How is Eastern Canon Law promulgated? Is it done by the Vatican, or by the sui juris Church? Also, are Eastern Catholics obliged to follow any/all of the precepts of the Roman Code of Canon Law? Looking on the Vatican website, I can’t find anything that says the CCL is specifically for Latin Rite Catholics, nor can I find any listing of Eastern Canons.
Thanks!
K
kevstar31
Guest
M
malphono
Guest
Very briefly, the CIC does not apply to the East/Orient. Instead, Rome issued the CCOE. In addition, the various sui juris Churches each has “Particular Law.” References to “Particular Law” abound in the CCOE.
D
Diak
Guest
Currently to my knowledge only the Ukrainian Greek Catholic Church has this explicit provision in the particular law for the US allowing economia of Vespers, Matins or the Divine Liturgy for the “obligation”.
While these provisions may be being “tossed around” by some other particular Eastern Catholic Churches, or wished to be in place by others, as I understand it it is still the case that it has only been codified in the UGCC particular law.
FDRLB
A
Aramis
Guest
There are multiple levels at which canon law occurs.
The CIC & CCEO were promulgated by the Pope, HH JP II, specifically.
The next level is the Church Sui Iuris; this is often called Particular Law. The Primate, be he Patriarch, Major Archbishop, Metropolitan, or Eparch, promulgates such particular law, usually by consent of the synod, if not positive instruction to do so.
Ecclesiastical Provinces (metropolia) generally do not have particular laws unless they happen to be also either a Church Sui Iuris or a National Conference, but can. If they do, thier Archbishop promulgates on behalf of the synod.
Dioceses can also have particular law, promulgated by the bishop. Many do, many don’t.
The CIC & CCEO were promulgated by the Pope, HH JP II, specifically.
The next level is the Church Sui Iuris; this is often called Particular Law. The Primate, be he Patriarch, Major Archbishop, Metropolitan, or Eparch, promulgates such particular law, usually by consent of the synod, if not positive instruction to do so.
Ecclesiastical Provinces (metropolia) generally do not have particular laws unless they happen to be also either a Church Sui Iuris or a National Conference, but can. If they do, thier Archbishop promulgates on behalf of the synod.
Dioceses can also have particular law, promulgated by the bishop. Many do, many don’t.
P
pickguard1
Guest
A
Aramis
Guest
I missed one layer… the national conferences. In all cases, their presiding bishop (often elected, sometimes selected by virtue of being Metropolitan) promulgates their particular law after approval by Rome of same. The actual lawmaking sessions are Plenary Councils… which often date back before the formal system of standing national conferences.
P
pickguard1
Guest
So if I undertand correctly, the Eastern Catholics have a separate code, which of course in some cases is identical to the code for the Latin Church, but which is different in that it addresses the structure of the Eastern heirarchy, Eastern sacraments and liturgy etc.
Then there is particular law that pertains solely to the individual *sui juris *churches, being subject to the CCEO, but promulgated by either bishops or synods or conferences within the various churches?
Then there is particular law that pertains solely to the individual *sui juris *churches, being subject to the CCEO, but promulgated by either bishops or synods or conferences within the various churches?
A
Aramis
Guest
pretty much.
P
pickguard1
Guest
Sorry - I don’t do a lot of posting on the weekends.
OK, so the particular law - would that be comparable to say, things that are promulgated by the USCCB for dioceses in the U.S.?
and then, by parallel, the Latin Church is a *sui juris *church, headed by the bishop of Rome, subject to its own Canon Law (apart from the Eastern Churches). The Latin Church also falls under the universal jurisdiction of the Pope, who just also happens to be the titular head of the Latin Church as well? Do I understand this correctly? I think some grey is beginning to fade…
A
Aramis
Guest
That is one level of particular law.
For example, in the Eparchy of Van Nuys:
General Laws
Pope & direct papal dogmatic definitions
Ecumenical Council canons
CCEO
Particular Laws
USCCB (Not much here that applies outside of issues of shared tribunals that I’ve heard of)
Ruthenian Particular Law for Pittsburgh Metropolia
Eparchial Particular Law
For the Archdiocese of Anchorage
General Laws
Pope & direct papal dogmatic definitions
Ecumenical Council canons
CIC (Codex Iuridicus Canonicus - Roman Canon Law)
Particular Laws
USCCB
Province of Anchorage Particular Law (Most notable was the ordination of married Yu’piq men to the deaconate, an indult allowed by Rome post VII and before the general permission.)
Achdiocesan Particular Law (which doesn’t apply to the suffragans)
Yes, the Roman Church is one of the 23 Sui Iuris Churches, and the only one under the CIC instead of the CCEO; it’s also about 98% of the total population of Catholics at present.and then, by parallel, the Latin Church is a *sui juris *church, headed by the bishop of Rome, subject to its own Canon Law (apart from the Eastern Churches). The Latin Church also falls under the universal jurisdiction of the Pope, who just also happens to be the titular head of the Latin Church as well? Do I understand this correctly? I think some grey is beginning to fade…
Essentially, the pope is to the non-roman sui iuris churches as a metropolitan-archbishop is to suffragans; has the right to intervene in cases of failure to live up to their obligations, but seldom interferes.
The term Particular church is a catch-all; it refers to any body from a diocese through a sui iuris church that has a canonical standing.
So: Dioceses/Eparchies†, Archdioceses/Archeparchies* †, Provinces/Metropolia**, National Conferences***, Sui Iuris Churches****.
† Eparchy is functionally synonymous with diocese, and eparch with bishop
*An archdiocese is the diocese of an archbishop, exclusive of his suffragans if any.
** A province or metropolia is a collection of one or more suffragan bishops and their metropolitan-archbishop. The Archbishop has some oversight duties, and reporting duties.
*** Some national conferences are also metropolia; others are comprised of multiple metropolia. A few are multi-national.
**** Sui iuris churches range from ones like the Russian with no hierarchy at all, just priests incardinated into dioceses nominally comprised of other sui iuris churches, to exarchates with a bishop-Exarch who is appointed, diocesan churches with but a single bishop, metropolitan churches who have a synod with a metropolitan, and major-archiepiscopal and patriarchal churches with a synod and usually multiple metropolia.
P
pickguard1
Guest
Cool, thanks Aramis 
- Status