Eastern Catholics, do any of you identify yourself Roman Catholic to show you are in communion with Rome?

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If you do not use the term, why do you reject it?

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BVMFatima
 
BVMFatima said:
The question is above 🙂

If you do not use the term, why do you reject it?

God Bless,
BVMFatima
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I’m a Russian Greek Catholic. My Church is in full communion with the universal Catholic Church under the Pope of Rome. That’s how I show my Church is in communion with Rome. 🙂
 
Hello am Greek Orthodox, My wife is roman Catholic, And my daughter great news is finally doing her comfirmation hopefully soon.
Has anyone heard that since my wife married me in a Greak Church, that she lost her sarements. so she is not alloweed to receive commuion. But me on the other hand i was told that if yu want to get blessed but not receive the eucerest. all you do is cross your arms once you get to the alter.

Thanks for listening

Manny
 
Manny_C said:
Hello am Greek Orthodox, My wife is roman Catholic, And my daughter great news is finally doing her comfirmation hopefully soon.
Has anyone heard that since my wife married me in a Greak Church, that she lost her sarements. so she is not alloweed to receive commuion. But me on the other hand i was told that if yu want to get blessed but not receive the eucerest. all you do is cross your arms once you get to the alter.

Thanks for listening

Manny
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I thought this was permitted. Was there some kind of permission needed before the wedding for her to have communion afterward?
 
Manny_C said:
Hello am Greek Orthodox, My wife is roman Catholic, And my daughter great news is finally doing her comfirmation hopefully soon.
Has anyone heard that since my wife married me in a Greak Church, that she lost her sarements. so she is not alloweed to receive commuion. But me on the other hand i was told that if yu want to get blessed but not receive the eucerest. all you do is cross your arms once you get to the alter.

Thanks for listening

Manny
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Actually if its a Greek Catholic Church, she does not have to change rites and she can receive communion just like she can in the Roman Catholic Church.
 
DeniseNY said:
No, I don’t identify myself as Roman Catholic
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Nor should you in my view. You are just as Catholic as the Holy Father himself, and your Tradition is every bit as beautiful and august as that of the West.
 
Dear BVM Fatima,
Reject seems like a harsh word. Do you say, “I am Catholic of the Universal Church with the Roman and Eastern Churches.?” Probably not, that would be a mouthful, but I do not think that means you reject us.
We have a different spirituality, though share all Catholic dogma, so we are different We are members of the Body of Christ…a toe does not call itself a finger and a finger not a toe nor does one part will to be the other, as an eye does not will to be an ear.

I do check off RC on forms where that is the only Catholic choice for emergencies.

I love the Church. I love the Roman Catholic Church, not to love it is to hate the Body of Christ. I attend the RC Church even when I have an Eastern Church nearby sometimes. It helps me to remember we are one, and to remind myself that I am serving God, not a social group (though community is part of serving God, I do not intend to imply otherwise, and Catholics can learn a lot from protestants in this area, mho).

God Bless You
 
Manny_C said:
Hello am Greek Orthodox, My wife is roman Catholic, And my daughter great news is finally doing her comfirmation hopefully soon.
Has anyone heard that since my wife married me in a Greak Church, that she lost her sarements. so she is not alloweed to receive commuion. But me on the other hand i was told that if yu want to get blessed but not receive the eucerest. all you do is cross your arms once you get to the alter.

Thanks for listening

Manny
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Orthodox must marry in the Orthodox Church for it to be valid in the eyes of the Orthodox Church, but Catholics can and do receive a dispensation to be married in the Orthodox Church. Such a marriage is valid in the eyes of the Catholic Church and the Catholic spouse remains in full communion with the Catholic Church.
 
BVMFatima said:
The question is above 🙂

If you do not use the term, why do you reject it?

God Bless,
BVMFatima
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In my experience, when someone said that he/she is a Roman Catholic, then people will understand it as belong to Latin Church/practising Latin expressions (if the person is ignorant about Eastern Catholic), or asume it as “under” Latin Church (if the person know there is Eastern Catholic but thought wrongly about Eastern Catholic.

Eastern Catholic is part of the Universal Catholic Church, but not of the Latin Church/Western Church.

Usually the term Roman Catholic is not used to avoid misconception and to make it clear that Catholic Church doesn’t consist of Latin Church/Roman Catholic alone.
 
Some people at my parish sometimes (perhaps tongue-in-cheek) self-identify themselves as, “the real Roman Catholics,” as the Greeks never ceded the title Romaioi as being exclusively owned by the West, nor has the Orthodox Church ceased using the term Katholiki self-referentially. I doubt, however, that this is quite what you were looking for, since we are not in communion with the bishop of Rome.
 
BVMFatima said:
The question is above 🙂

If you do not use the term, why do you reject it?

God Bless,
BVMFatima
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I am an Eastern/Oriental Catholic in Communion with Rome. I don’t see a need to call myself “Roman” Catholic. At that point, I’d just call myself Catholic. 😉
 
BVMFatima said:
The question is above 🙂

If you do not use the term, why do you reject it?

God Bless,
BVMFatima
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What an odd question. Eastern Catholics do not need to identify themselves as Roman Catholics to show they are in communion with Rome. Even us, Latins, don’t need to do that. We just identify ourselves as Catholics. Period.
 
When asked I just say Catholic so this never comes up. I do, though, often cross myself in public the Roman way so that people know that I am Catholic and do not confuse me for being Orthodox. If, for whatever reason, this small sign of piety inspires them on a journey towards Christ I want them to be inspired towards the Catholic Church of any jurisdiction.
 
smad0142 said:
I do, though, often cross myself in public the Roman way so that people know that I am Catholic and do not confuse me for being Orthodox.
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I don’t know what you look like or where you live, but the Armenian Orthodox cross themselves left to right. I understand this is the same as Roman Catholics and different from Eastern Orthodox.
 
All Oriental Orthodox cross ourselves left-to-right. According to the VHS video “A Brief Introduction to the Eastern Catholic Churches” (Eparchy of Parma, 1992), the Latins crossing themselves that way was a mistake that originated from the people incorrectly mirroring the priest’s action. They used to cross themselves in the Byzantine way, but started transitioning sometime in the Middle Ages. For the Oriental Orthodox, it has always been left-to-right. A beautiful explanation of the meaning of each gesture from a Tewahedo deacon on another message board:
Using the right hand make and hold these two positions:
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Position 1 (Meaning: The Cross of Salvation or “power of the cross” we say Haili’h Mesq’hl.)
We make a cross with the index over the middle finger. In so doing we position (or orient) the index finger as ‘center’ to the middle finger as possible while keeping the index finger straight until the last segment of the middle finger naturally bends downward. Thus making a cross with these two fingers.
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Position 2 ( Meaning:Trinity Meaning also: God in man with 1 divine nature we say Tewahido)
While holding the above crossed figure position we then place our thumb on the tip of the ring finger while keeping the pinky ‘tight-up’ to the ring finger.
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Now these finger positions define the belief.
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While holding the two positions we make the sign of the Holy Cross while saying and raising the tip of the index finger to touch the forehead (In the name of the Father), then to touch the middle of the chest (in the name of the Son) , then to touch the left shoulder (In the name of the Holy Spirit), then to touch the right shoulder (One God), then a bow from the hip while saying in conclusion Amen.
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WE go left to right to indicate a few things such as:
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Left: Prophets
Right:Apostles
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Left: Old Testament
Right: New Testament
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Left: West
Right: East
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Left: Christ crossed the red sea to Africa Egypt
Right: Christ crossed the red sea back to Jerusalem (Fulfilling the prophecy “out of Egypt I call my Son”)
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Left: The thief on the left hand
Right: The thief on the right hand
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Left: From sin
Right: To righteousness, Fulfillment. Christ last or 7Th word on the cross: “It is finished”
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Manny_C said:
Hello am Greek Orthodox, My wife is roman Catholic, And my daughter great news is finally doing her comfirmation hopefully soon.
Has anyone heard that since my wife married me in a Greak Church, that she lost her sarements. so she is not alloweed to receive commuion. But me on the other hand i was told that if yu want to get blessed but not receive the eucerest. all you do is cross your arms once you get to the alter.

Thanks for listening

Manny
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VERY GOOD QUESTION! Being eastern rite catholic with an orthodox church closest to me, I had long discussions with the orthodox priest (reversed from your situation). He tells me I can attend but ACCORDING TO HIS BISHOP (surprisingly back then I knew his bishop personally) I cannot receive the sacraments. Then we had long talks on the 3 issues btw them and us.

Then in checking with the catholic catechism, we are “brothers”, faith, sacraments, ordination, all the same. HOWEVER “we should not seek them out”.

So I suppose I gave you more questions than answers.
 
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