Eastern Christians and Theology of the Body

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I like to call the theology of the body “Going back to SCHL:”
It is the S=sacramental,C=truly “Catholic” (This includes the Orthodox churches), H=human, L=liturgical, WORLDVIEW.
(I include the “Orthodox” in the definition of Catholic because in this usage “Catholic” means based on a sacramental system.)

True compassion is based on impeccable honesty. If we use the Sacramental worldview the most compassionate thing we can say is that there is no such thing as a “homosexual.” Now, just wait, calm down and stay with me on this:

It is not compassiontate to size someone up, lable them and then dismiss them in an attitude of smug finality: “Oh, yeah, that’s Joe. He’s gay.” The word “homosexual” iself is actually of recent and erroneous vintage.

TOB teaches that our bodies “speak a language.” They “speak” of the complimentary gender. God does not make “homosexual” bodies. Our bodies are intrinsically gendered which means our minds, souls, Spirit, emotions, etc. are designed to be consistent with our bodies otherwise God would be a bad designer because there would be no consistency of design.

So, there are no “homosexuals.” There are only PERSONS, i.e. as God is a PERSON. Persons are worthy of respect and dignity because persons and persons alone image God. Some persons, through no fault of their own, MAY have what they are convinced of at THIS MOMENT IN TIME, a sexual attraction to the same gender. Please note my qualifying words–no finality was put on these persons.

I cannot get into here the entire dynamic of same sex attraction.
(You will have to attend one of my lectures some day for this.)
But, I can say this:

The Church in her TRUE compassion will never affirm someone in something that is not impeccabley honest because dishonesty will always cause a hurt in some way. Two people of the same gender can in fact love each other. But this is “philos” love and not the love of marital union. It is impossible for it to be the same as marriage simply because of what marriage actually means. It means complimentary entities that are specifically designed to “fit together,” to become a union and communion of persons in a full, fruitful, free and faithful gift of self. Our gendered bodies “speak” this language but they speak it in relation to the other gender. The complimentary genders are made to “fit together” phsycially and since the body has a theology it reveals the person. Therefore the persons are made to “fit together” but precisely in the fact that their bodies are gendered. This is what the language of their bodies are “saying.”

Now, if we affirm two people of the same gender in their desire to “marry” each other, we affirm these people in a certain dishonesty or illusion because in fact they cannot “fit together” in the specific way that defines marriage. Remember, words mean things. Just because we call something “marriage” does not in fact make it “marriage.” To affirm people in an untruth is to send them down a path of a simmering frustration of a certain unfulfillment. This is NOT compassion. This is NOT “sensitivity” or “inclusiveness” or respecting “diversity.” I will translate what this is: “I do not really want to bother with you. Whatever makes you happy. I really care more about myself than you because I want to make sure you will still like me, you will not get mad at me or even call be names like insensitive and homophobic.”

So where does that leave people with same sex attraction?
The genius of TOB says that the “spousal meaning of the body represents the fundemental element of human existence.” This means we ALL must live “spousally” to be happy. This includes single people, or those who believe they might have same sex attraction. To live “spousally” means to make a sincere gift of self and in life there are many, many ways to do this. Sacramental marriage is not the only way. Celibates, above all people must live “spousally.” Otherwise their celibacy is simply excess bagage defined entirely in the negative and therefore absurd and “archaic,” unfair, unnecessary, etc.

People who “believe” they “might” have same sex attraction,
(Please note how I stubbornly refuse to speak in finalities) are called by the Church to live the way the Church invites EVERYONE to live; HONESLTY: honest to the language of our bodies, honest to the created order because ONLY through honesty do we arrive at happiness. Honest living will always include the Cross, so we cannot take that out of the equation and that is usually the sticking point: We want what we want what we want what we want and don’t you ask me to say NO to myself. Don’t you show me that Cross or I will call you nasty names and label you as insensitive, homophobic, sexist, patriarchal, etc. etc.

Just as “marriage” means something specific, so does “love.”
If the “love” between two people of the same gender is defined in sexual terms and therefore seeking to include “marriage” then this is actually not “love.” Rather is is “need.” Love by its honest definition seeks what is BEST for the other person for their own sake, not because of what might be obtained by the other party in the process. If two people with same sex attraction love each other in the sense of “philos,” brotherly, sisterly love, then this is good but it should not be confused dishonestly with the love of a man and woman in marriage. To insist that it is the same is to be uncompassionate and insensitive because dishonesty will always hurt.

The Church offers to everyone TRUE compasssion because the Church will never come off the position of absolutey honesty.
And the Church is there to walk with us every step of the way on our journey to embrace the Cross and be honest to the “language of our bodies.” Herein lies the secret to true happiness.

–Fr. Thomas J. Loya, STB,MA.
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If I may interject for a moment, I have found Being As Communion by John D. Zizioulas extremely helpful in explaining the Orthodox theology on matters pertinent to TOB.**

Can you give a brief summary of Zizioulas? I am not sure soon I could get my hands on a copy, so a summary would be well appreciated.

On a side note:

As for the ToB, it is important to remember who some of JPII’s philosophical influences are. One of the strongest was Max Scheler. I think that these modern philosophies, were a great influence on JPII’s life and work. I think that it is another dimension to keep in mind; I don’t think Scheler was aware of Eastern Christian thought. This is not to say that JPII wasn’t. 👍
 
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Allyson,

Your are correct. In fact, in his briliant introduction to his translation of JPII;'s “Man and Woman He Created Them–A theology of the body” Dr. Michael Waldstein explains this.
I spoke at a TOB conference in Gamming, Austria which was headed up by Dr. Waldstein. The theme of the conference was in fact the philoposphical influences of JPII’s thought on the human person. Where I believe that Scheler, JPII, etc. dovetail with Easten Christian spirituality is in the emphasis on the personalistic view where the human person participates in the interior life of the Trinity precisely because the human person alone can become a union and communion of persons.
Also JPII specifically states “divinization” (the foundational principle of eastern Christian spirituality) as a foundational principle in understanding the truth abou the human person.

–Fr. Thomas J. Loya, STB., MA.
 
I simply wish to thank my pastor for helping me tie up some loose ends in theology. I have used these insights from Pope John Paul II many times in my classes. Thank you Father Loya.

CDL
 
Can you give a brief summary of Zizioulas? I am not sure soon I could get my hands on a copy, so a summary would be well appreciated.
Being As Communion is an explanation of the Trinitarian theology of the Cappadocian fathers and its effect on other areas of the faith like ecclesiology and liturgy. He explains the idea of personhood as understood by the Greeks. The Father as a person(rather than a substance as in Greek philosophy) is the source of the Trinity. The Son is begotten from Him and the Spirit proceeds from Him. The Son is not simply naturally begotten against the Fathers will. It is His will to beget the Son. Consequently it is an act of love. The Trinity is a communion of love between the three persons.

Similarly the existence of man has its source in one person, Adam. The rib of Adam was used by God to make Eve. From them come the whole human race. It was communion that we were created for. Communion with the rest of man and with God. We are to be oriented toward the other. This communion is love.
On a side note:

As for the ToB, it is important to remember who some of JPII’s philosophical influences are. One of the strongest was Max Scheler. I think that these modern philosophies, were a great influence on JPII’s life and work. I think that it is another dimension to keep in mind; I don’t think Scheler was aware of Eastern Christian thought. This is not to say that JPII wasn’t. 👍
Gabriel Marcel is another good modern philosopher that had a large impact(I think) on Pope John Paul II. The book Homo Viator is very good, especially the article in it on the Phenomenology of Hope. I think that some of the ideas that Metr. Zizioulas speaks of can be found in Gabriel Marcel. They both have an idea of communion and otherness in their views.
 
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Thank you, Jimmy. For those who have been wondering, it is clear from this how JPII reached into the eatern philosophical, mystical, liturgical worldview for his “adequate anthropology” in the theology of the body. As an Eastern Catholic, I find that the spiritual and liturgical tradition of my Church provides an apt conduit for the presentation of the theology of the body because TOB is primarily a liturgical worldview. My presentations on TOB use the iconongraphy, music, architecture, text, rhythm, prayer and gesture of Eastern Christianity as the principle ways in which to convey this vital message meant for our modern times. (Actually it was meant for all times but we lost sight of it. JPII simply reached back and did what any truly “cutting edge” view does: sees old things in new ways: “So ancient yet so new”–Augustine).

–Fr. Thomas J. Loya, STB., MA.
 
Being As Communion is an explanation of the Trinitarian theology of the Cappadocian fathers and its effect on other areas of the faith like ecclesiology and liturgy. He explains the idea of personhood as understood by the Greeks. The Father as a person(rather than a substance as in Greek philosophy) is the source of the Trinity. The Son is begotten from Him and the Spirit proceeds from Him. The Son is not simply naturally begotten against the Fathers will. It is His will to beget the Son. Consequently it is an act of love. The Trinity is a communion of love between the three persons.

Similarly the existence of man has its source in one person, Adam. The rib of Adam was used by God to make Eve. From them come the whole human race. It was communion that we were created for. Communion with the rest of man and with God. We are to be oriented toward the other. This communion is love.

Gabriel Marcel is another good modern philosopher that had a large impact(I think) on Pope John Paul II. The book Homo Viator is very good, especially the article in it on the Phenomenology of Hope. I think that some of the ideas that Metr. Zizioulas speaks of can be found in Gabriel Marcel. They both have an idea of communion and otherness in their views.
Thanks jimmy. I have a photocopy of the Marcel book somewhere; it was a textbook for a class of mine some few years ago.

R.
 
Thanks jimmy. I have a photocopy of the Marcel book somewhere; it was a textbook for a class of mine some few years ago.

R.
Allyson, may I ask where you went to school? I read it for a metaphysics class at Franciscan University.
 
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For those who may be interested there will be a National Catholic Singles conference held in Chicago April 25-27, 2008. I will be one of the speakers. These conferences are organized by TOBIA (Theology of the Body International Alliance) and they are of course based on the principles of the theology of the body. There is a great line up of speakers at this event who come from a broad perspective of disciplines. For instance, one of them, Dr. Phil Mango (I call him the “real” Dr. Phil) is someone you don’t want to miss. He is a psychologists out of New York who does his practice using the principles of TOB. There is also Greg and Juile Alexander, a married couple who are dynamite.

For more information go to: nationalcatholicsingles.com or call: 815-828-5094

A schedule of my talks throughout the year can be seen by going to www.byzantinecatholic.com and clicking on the events page.
If you go to this same website and click on the radio page you can hear my radio program, “Light of the East.” Each program is archived on this website.

–Fr. Thoma J. Loya, STB., MA.
 
Fr. Bless!

Did you know that Catholic Radio in Indianapolis carries “Light of the East” on Sundays at noon?

You still are on the radio.👍
 
Fr. Loya, thanks for the conference info, I’ll look into.
I’m reading the chapter on virginity in Theotokos by Archbishop Raya and it dovetails well with Christopher West’s Intro to the TOB. Do you discuss the Theotokos in your lectures?

Christ is Among Us!
Triana
 
Glory to Jesus Christ!

Thank you Vlodomyr for the message about my radio program in Indianapolis. In order for "Catholic media to be truly “Catholic” it is imperative that both “lungs” of the Church are always represented. This also complies with the APOSTOLIC letter by JPII, “Orientale Lumen” in which Catholics were INSTRUCTED BY THE POPE to indeed learn about the Eastern Churches.

A truly “Catholic” presentation of the Catholic Church in media is also vital for the cause of Ecumenism. Imagine what our Eastern Orthodox brethren think when they see “Catholic” presentations that completey ignore the entire existence of the other whole “lung” of the Church. It is like presuming to give a presentation about the human race and talking only about men and never even mentioning women.

–Fr. Thomas J. Loya, STB., MA.
 
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