Eastern Orthodox Bible

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I just read that the Eastern Orthodox Bible has 78 books, 5 more than the Catholic Church’s as 73. I know about Luther removing books from the Bible but I never knew there was a difference in Orthodox vs Catholic Bibles.

I searched to find the history behind this difference. Can anyone give me some links or help explain this to me? Thanks 😃
 
I just read that the Eastern Orthodox Bible has 78 books, 5 more than the Catholic Church’s as 73. I know about Luther removing books from the Bible but I never knew there was a difference in Orthodox vs Catholic Bibles.

I searched to find the history behind this difference. Can anyone give me some links or help explain this to me? Thanks 😃
Anyone?
 
Perhaps this is in the wrong forum.

Why don’t you ask the same question in either the Scripture section under apologetics. I be you’ll have better luck.

Peace
James
 
The Greek Orthodox accept all books of the Greek Septuagint, however, the Catholics follow the Canons of the Bible approved by the Church council, basically, the difference is only in the Old testament, both churches has the same number of New Testament books
 
I know they have Psalm 151, 3 (and in some cases 4) Maccabees, and maybe another Esdras? Sorry, the Esdras books are confusing due to the naming conventions.
 
I just read that the Eastern Orthodox Bible has 78 books, 5 more than the Catholic Church’s as 73. I know about Luther removing books from the Bible but I never knew there was a difference in Orthodox vs Catholic Bibles.

I searched to find the history behind this difference. Can anyone give me some links or help explain this to me? Thanks 😃
Just a teensy correction. 🙂
Luther’s translation of the Bible into German contained all 73 books of the typical western Bible of his time, plus the Prayer of Manasses.

Jon
 
I know they have Psalm 151, 3 (and in some cases 4) Maccabees, and maybe another Esdras? Sorry, the Esdras books are confusing due to the naming conventions.
The Orthodox Study Bible that was published in 2008 lists 76 books. Psalm 151 is included.

I’ve never been able to discover why the Orthodox Church has the largest canon. It bothered me when I was making my first tentative inquiries into Holy Orthodoxy but as I began to move out of the either/or mindset and stepped up to the both/and, which is intrinsic to Orthodoxy, I somehow lost interest in pursuing the question. So while I can offer no background information, I can proclaim the reality we see before us – which is that we Orthodox have more books in our Bibles than even Bill Hybels. Moreover, Psalm 151, unknown to so many, is not unknown to us. 🙂

Psalm 151 is “written with David’s own hand, although outside the number” (of the Psalter), when he fought in single combat with Goliath. It’s not particularly lengthy, scil:

I was small among my brothers
And the youngest in my father’s house;
I tended my father’s sheep.
My hands built a musical instrument;
My fingers turned a lyre.
And who shall tell my Lord?
The Lord Himself, He Himself hears.
He sent forth His Angel
And took me from my father’s sheep;
And he anointed me with his anointing oil.
My brothers were handsome and tall,
But the Lord took no pleasure in them.
I went out to meet the foreigner,
And he cursed me with his idols;
But I drew his own sword and beheaded him,
And removed disgrace from the children of Israel.​

The footnote declares:

From a spiritual standpoint, Goliath stands for the sinful passions of arrogance and vainglory. Thus, with the Lord’s help, we slay these giants with humility.

Q.E.D.

Biblically,
Mick
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Very interesting! So if I’m reading this right, neither Catholics nor Orthodox use 4 Esdras (which we call 2 Esdras)? Not that it matters; I’m just fascinated by learning about this stuff 😃
 
Very interesting! So if I’m reading this right, neither Catholics nor Orthodox use 4 Esdras (often called 2 Esdras today)? Sorry…I’m just fascinated by learning about this stuff. 😃
 
As is often posed to Protestants by Catholics…why did the Catholic church remove books from the Bible?🙂

Many of us in the Meeting I attend use the Oxford Study Bible Expanded Edition which includes ALL the books of the Bible.
 
Hahaha. I was JUST thinking that, Nine Two! That is a funny idea in this thread about differences in the canon… 😃

From what I have seen online, it doesn’t seem like this Oxford Study Bible is at all acceptable to Orthodox Christians of either communion.
 
As is often posed to Protestants by Catholics…why did the Catholic church remove books from the Bible?🙂

Many of us in the Meeting I attend use the Oxford Study Bible Expanded Edition which includes ALL the books of the Bible.
To answer this question we would have to determine when the different canon’s were codified. The 73 book western canon was approved ca 400 AD while East and West were still united. Further, it is my undestanding that the Council of Nicea II in 787 AD ratified the same canon as authoritative for the Eastern Churches.

Of course the canon was not “closed” until the Council of Trent took that action for the Western Church in response to the Protestants removing books from the Holy Canon.

So I suppose it is possible that the Eastern Church accepted teh Western canon, but since it was not “closed” they chose to include the other books.

To me the actual canon is not so much an issue because I believe in One Holy Catholic and Apostilic Church with Authority From Christ to “Bind and Loose”.
It is those who declare are SS adherants who must explain the problems posed by having a smaller canon than and group of the ancient Church.

Peace
James
 
To answer this question we would have to determine when the different canon’s were codified. The 73 book western canon was approved ca 400 AD while East and West were still united. Further, it is my undestanding that the Council of Nicea II in 787 AD ratified the same canon as authoritative for the Eastern Churches.

Of course the canon was not “closed” until the Council of Trent took that action for the Western Church in response to the Protestants removing books from the Holy Canon.

So I suppose it is possible that the Eastern Church accepted teh Western canon, but since it was not “closed” they chose to include the other books.

To me the actual canon is not so much an issue because I believe in One Holy Catholic and Apostilic Church with Authority From Christ to “Bind and Loose”.
It is those who declare are SS adherants who must explain the problems posed by having a smaller canon than and group of the ancient Church.

Peace
James
Makes sense.
 
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