They consider themselves “Catholic” as in “universal” but they’re different from say, Roman/Eastern Catholics because they are in communion with the Pope and their beliefs are a little bit different.
Yep, as the above poster stated same beliefs different customs.
No
That’s the difference between us and them. They don’t. We do.
Again, what the above poster said. This confuses me too.
If you consider yourselves Catholic, then why not join yourselves to Catholic Church, and make it official ? Like some Anglican ecclesial groups, and many individual Protestants are doing ?
What he/she means “Catholic” is “universal” as opposed to in communion with Rome.
What about Oriental Orthodox?
Really? So, do you think all those apparitions were fake?
I think Oriental Orthodox Christians and Eastern Orthodox Christians are different because Oriental Orthodox Christians believe in Monophysitism (Christ had one nature) as opposed to Eastern Orthodox Christians (which believe Christ has two, divine and human).
They’re MIAphysites, not Monophysites.I think Oriental Orthodox Christians and Eastern Orthodox Christians are different because Oriental Orthodox Christians believe in Monophysitism (Christ had one nature) as opposed to Eastern Orthodox Christians (which believe Christ has two, divine and human).
Am I wrong anyone?
and you are correct
They do consider themselves Catholic. Many Orthodox would argue that the Roman Catholic Church and its communion aren’t really Catholic, despite having the name.
Yep.
It happens all the time. They receive communion and the other sacraments, too. An Italian Catholic can go to a Polish Catholic church, right? It’s the same thing with Greek and Russian Orthodox, or any other kind of Eastern Orthodox for that matter.
No.
No.
The Immaculate Conception is largely not held in Orthodox circles, though a few might privately believe it. It is believed that Mary first died, then was taken up body and soul into Heaven.
Yeah, that is an issue. Ashamed to say that I used to be the same way. But nearly all the Orthodox I’ve met (and that amounts to people at three different parishes across the same number of jurisdictions) have kept other Christian denominations out of their conversations (unless conversion stories are brought up). I suppose it does depend on which Orthodox you run into–it seems I’ve been fortunate to run into the charitable Orthodox who don’t concern themselves with the faults of other Christian denominations/churches.
The the Oriental Orthodox are Miaphysite, not monophysite (this is part of the issue that came up with translation). The theological basis of the schism has been resolved with the Catholic Church, and the Coptic Church emphasizes how this was an issue of translation difficulties making it the closest to re-unification with the Orthodox. This subtle difference in understanding has created some subtle differences in theology, though they are largely the same outside of some church laws and the lack of obligation to hold firmly to the keeping of the ecumenical councils 5-7.I think Oriental Orthodox Christians and Eastern Orthodox Christians are different because Oriental Orthodox Christians believe in Monophysitism (Christ had one nature) as opposed to Eastern Orthodox Christians (which believe Christ has two, divine and human).
Am I wrong anyone?
In my experience, that depends on the group.
Because they are not in communion with the bishop of Rome.
Depends what you mean. If you mean, “would they like to be considered to be the One Holy Catholic and Apostolic Church,” they would answer that they already consider their communion to constitute the One Holy Catholic and Apostolic Church.
Yes.
Yes.
No. Catholic canon law permits it in most circumstances, but their own church directs them not to in much the same way ours directs us not to receive Communion at Protestant services.
They recognize that he is the bishop of Rome, but they reject the belief that the Church’s divine constitution grants him any kind or degree of universal authority.
No, with the possible exception of the Immaculate Conception. But that’s a long and complicated topic.
You misunderstand. It doesn’t matter that the world thinks of the churches in communion with Rome when people say the phrase “the Catholic Church”; to the Orthodox Christians, the Orthodox Church is the true Catholic Church spoken of by St. Ignatius of Antioch.
The Oriental Orthodox and the Eastern Orthodox are not in communion with each other, and any reception of each other’s Holy Mysteries (what Latins call Sacraments) would be by application of economy only.
It’s more complicated than that.I think Oriental Orthodox Christians and Eastern Orthodox Christians are different because Oriental Orthodox Christians believe in Monophysitism (Christ had one nature) as opposed to Eastern Orthodox Christians (which believe Christ has two, divine and human).
Am I wrong anyone?
The Oriental Orthodox believe that Jesus is consubstantial with the Father and consubstantial with us. Despite that agreement, they have such serious issues with dyophysite language (i.e. saying that Christ has two natures and all that) that many regard it as heretical.Bp John a Melkite Catholic explains it as follows
No
you’d have to ask them
There’s no open communion either way
They see the pope as 1st among equals. A nonsense term that is self contradicting. If all are equal no one can be 1st, if one is 1st all aren’t equal. As you see from the link above & Kasper’s comments, the Orthodox don’t even honor “1st among equals” among themselves with regards to the Bp of Constantinople.
yes
Very good … thanks to the many responses. I’m starting to get a picture of the potential/actual errs of the Orthodox. And, one would think the orthodox would be most keen on avoiding any possible err.
That write-up might be slightly different for the Oriental Orthodox.