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Is there an official Orthodox position on issues like there is in the Catholic church? I am trying to find out if the Orthodox officially recognize the Catholic sacraments of Holy Communion, Pennance, and Anointing of the Sick as valid.
 
Is there an official Orthodox position on issues like there is in the Catholic church? I am trying to find out if the Orthodox officially recognize the Catholic sacraments of Holy Communion, Pennance, and Anointing of the Sick as valid.
In as much as by economy we don’t always deem it necessary to baptize Catholics who wish to become Orthodox; any Orthodox Bishop may choose to recieve a Catholic who had previously been ‘baptized’ in the Catholic Church by baptism. So no, there are no sacraments outside the Church. As to whether Catholic “sacraments” confer any grace… we know where grace is, we don’t know where it is not. 👍
 
In as much as by economy we don’t always deem it necessary to baptize Catholics who wish to become Orthodox; any Orthodox Bishop may choose to recieve a Catholic who had previously been ‘baptized’ in the Catholic Church by baptism. So no, there are no sacraments outside the Church. As to whether Catholic “sacraments” confer any grace… we know where grace is, we don’t know where it is not. 👍
So the answer is NO??? You do not officially recognize the catholic Eucharist as the Real Presence?? Or Catholic confession or Anointing of the Sick as valid?
 
In as much as by economy we don’t always deem it necessary to baptize Catholics who wish to become Orthodox; any Orthodox Bishop may choose to recieve a Catholic who had previously been ‘baptized’ in the Catholic Church by baptism. So no, there are no sacraments outside the Church. As to whether Catholic “sacraments” confer any grace… we know where grace is, we don’t know where it is not. 👍
are you talking about your church or are you speaking for all orthodox churches?
 
So the answer is NO??? You do not officially recognize the catholic Eucharist as the Real Presence?? Or Catholic confession or Anointing of the Sick as valid?
I don’t think there is an official recognition, no.
 
There are those who do think Catholic sacraments are valid and those who don’t. Others are fine with a “I don’t know”. Like a unimodal normal curve, most fall in the middle with “I don’t know”.

There haven’t been any official proclamations about it one way or the other that can speak for the whole Orthodox Church because all of our Ecumenical Councils are pre-schism, when there was no need of such a proclamation.

Don’t let it disturb your peace though. Just let it inspire you to be in prayer for unity that much more.
 
There are those who do think Catholic sacraments are valid and those who don’t. Others are fine with a “I don’t know”. Like a unimodal normal curve, most fall in the middle with “I don’t know”.

There haven’t been any official proclamations about it one way or the other that can speak for the whole Orthodox Church because all of our Ecumenical Councils are pre-schism, when there was no need of such a proclamation.

Don’t let it disturb your peace though. Just let it inspire you to be in prayer for unity that much more.
not disturbing at all. we know where the chair of Peter is.
 
There are those who do think Catholic sacraments are valid and those who don’t. Others are fine with a “I don’t know”. Like a unimodal normal curve, most fall in the middle with “I don’t know”.

There haven’t been any official proclamations about it one way or the other that can speak for the whole Orthodox Church because all of our Ecumenical Councils are pre-schism, when there was no need of such a proclamation.

Don’t let it disturb your peace though. Just let it inspire you to be in prayer for unity that much more.
Ok so this actually brings me to another question. What would it take for there to be another ecumenical council from an Orthodox perspective?
 
Cute. Very cute. 😛

So everyone will know the joke, Peter established the Church at Antioch before he went to Rome.

I would like to know whic branches, so to speak, of Orthodoxy consider Catholic sacraments valid.

Further, do any consider non-Catholic baptism valid?
 
The concept of “validity” of mysteries, in and of themselves, is
foreign to Orthodoxy.

The Mysteries, for the Orthodox, are inseparable from the
Pan-Mystery, which is the Church herself.

Non-Orthodox sacraments are precisely that–non-Orthodox Sacraments,
and the Church makes no judgement about what goes on outside herself.

Non-Orthodox Baptism and Orders become an issue ONLY when a
non-Orthodox Christian wishes to become Orthodox, and then the
decision is treated as a pastoral matter. In these cases the canons
are interpreted with either strictness (akriveia) or leniency
(oikonomia), as is best for the individual in question AND for the
good of the Church.

This might help to explain why there seems (to many people) an
inconsistency in practice in different cases.

Remember, none of the Holy Canons are ends in themselves. The
salvation of souls IS an end in itself, perhaps the only end. If
strict application of a canon gets in the way of someone’s salvation,
then the canon clearly doesn’t apply. This is why there are cases of
receiving converts, especially clergy, by everything from canonical
Orthodox baptism by triple immersion to mere profession of Orthodox
faith and concelebration.

To give an extraordinary example of oikonomia: the mass ordination of
clergy of the former Evangelical Orthodox Church, though the rubrics
of the Byantine ordination rites direct that no more than one deacon
and one priest be ordained in any given Liturgy. If strictness had
been followed, a large number of neophytes would have been left with
no priests or deacons, and hence no Holy Eucharist, for a long time.
(Whether this was a wise exercise of oikonomia is another issue, but
I don’t doubt the necessity under these unusual circumstances.)
 
Catolics seem disappointed that Holy Orthodoxy is not just like Catolic only “little different”.

Pronouncements about “validity” of all sorts of things seems to be a big difference which is not part of Orthodox praxis. Orthodox church does not judge other churches or make any statement about their activities. Orthodox church knows what it does is Pravoslavije - the correct worship of Holy Trinity.

Orthodoxy does not tell other churches what to do or which such they do is good or “valid”. This latter issue of “validity” is a peculiarity of Roman church. Most churches of East consider what is true, what is good - not what is “valid”. But to make your heart calmer - most Orthodox people at this sait would consider Roman church priests to be true priests who for Catolics offer body and Blood of Our Lord Jesus Christ, forgive sins, marry, can become bishops, etc. However, these are personal opinions and not Pronouncements of some authority.

Try to learn what Orthodoxy is - positively. Do not worry about what it is not relative to Catolicism, or of its view of Catolicism.
 
Catolics seem disappointed that Holy Orthodoxy is not just like Catolic only “little different”.

Pronouncements about “validity” of all sorts of things seems to be a big difference which is not part of Orthodox praxis. Orthodox church does not judge other churches or make any statement about their activities. Orthodox church knows what it does is Pravoslavije - the correct worship of Holy Trinity.

Orthodoxy does not tell other churches what to do or which such they do is good or “valid”. This latter issue of “validity” is a peculiarity of Roman church. Most churches of East consider what is true, what is good - not what is “valid”. But to make your heart calmer - most Orthodox people at this sait would consider Roman church priests to be true priests who for Catolics offer body and Blood of Our Lord Jesus Christ, forgive sins, marry, can become bishops, etc. However, these are personal opinions and not Pronouncements of some authority.

Try to learn what Orthodoxy is - positively. Do not worry about what it is not relative to Catolicism, or of its view of Catolicism.
Lord have mercy on us sinfull catholics for we do not know what we are doing. In the Name of Our Lord, the Christ.
Amen
 
Catolics seem disappointed that Holy Orthodoxy is not just like Catolic only “little different”.

Pronouncements about “validity” of all sorts of things seems to be a big difference which is not part of Orthodox praxis. Orthodox church does not judge other churches or make any statement about their activities. Orthodox church knows what it does is Pravoslavije - the correct worship of Holy Trinity.

Orthodoxy does not tell other churches what to do or which such they do is good or “valid”. This latter issue of “validity” is a peculiarity of Roman church. Most churches of East consider what is true, what is good - not what is “valid”. But to make your heart calmer - most Orthodox people at this sait would consider Roman church priests to be true priests who for Catolics offer body and Blood of Our Lord Jesus Christ, forgive sins, marry, can become bishops, etc. However, these are personal opinions and not Pronouncements of some authority.

Try to learn what Orthodoxy is - positively. Do not worry about what it is not relative to Catolicism, or of its view of Catolicism.
take a look at this.

jesus-is-savior.com/False%20Religions/Russian_Orthodox/ro-idolatry.htm
 
How will there be an ecumenical council according to the Orthodox?
 
calm down i am on your side. i just want you to know both of CC are being attacked here.

:bowdown2: :signofcross: :highprayer:
Sorry if I seemed upset, I really wasn’t, just sort of baffled 🙂 … I’ve seen that site before, what a piece of work! The eerie music on some of the pages is definitely a nice touch . 😉
 
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