Eating chicken on Fridays during Lent

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I’ve come across so many people over the years who will swear up and down that eating chicken during Lent on Fridays is permissible. I’ve noticed many of these people who think this are hispanic. Where did this belief come from?
 
I’ve come across so many people over the years who will swear up and down that eating chicken during Lent on Fridays is permissible. I’ve noticed many of these people who think this are hispanic. Where did this belief come from?
Lenten regulations in a particular country are regulated by their Bishop’s Conference. I know that in Mexico (not sure if it is every diocese) chicken is not considered “meat” because the alternatives, especially fish, are much more expensive for most of the people. The difficulty comes into play when the people from those areas move to the US, where chicken is not permissible.
 
I’ve come across so many people over the years who will swear up and down that eating chicken during Lent on Fridays is permissible. I’ve noticed many of these people who think this are hispanic. Where did this belief come from?
Because they come from countries where the obligation is partially mitigated by the bishops, as is their prerogative, to allow chicken on Friday, largely because the alternatives are rather expensive.

But they through no fault of their own assume the dispensation also applies in the United States.
 
To my knowledge, eating chicken on Fridays is permissible only in the Spanish speaking contries of North and South America. All of Europe and Asia the abstinance of all meat on Fridays in and out of Lent is de rigeur.
 
Because they come from countries where the obligation is partially mitigated by the bishops, as is their prerogative, to allow chicken on Friday, largely because the alternatives are rather expensive.

But they through no fault of their own assume the dispensation also applies in the United States.
Why would it it more expensive to eat vegetables (as the alternative) than chicken. Meat is always more expensive so I don’t understand that argument.
 
You have to remember that,it,s most only Catholices that follow that tradition during Lent,I can,t say what others do.
 
Why would it it more expensive to eat vegetables (as the alternative) than chicken. Meat is always more expensive so I don’t understand that argument.
Usually in those countries, the vegetables grown locally are all exported (mostly to first world nations) and the vegetables in the country are imported and thus more expensive.
 
Why would it it more expensive to eat vegetables (as the alternative) than chicken. Meat is always more expensive so I don’t understand that argument.
The Latin Rite has modified abstinence rules over time. In the early Church, the practice was more like that of the Eastern Catholics and Orthodox. No meat, including fish, no eggs, cheese or oil. Fasting is much more rigorous. Since eggs, fish, (nowadays even meat broth) are permitted in the Latin Rite, it’s become almost a custom in some places to have seafood on Fridays during Lent. In fact some live according to the letter, and not the spirit of the Law, eating shrimp, lobster, and other expensive seafood. I myself enjoy fish-sticks, they are cheap, easy to cook, not as good as salmon or sword fish, which I would prefer, they remind me of my childhood when that’s what we got growing up. Not a major mortification, but it’s what I do.

I do sometimes go for meatless including fish, eggs, and dairy. But not everyone feels they have had a meal without some sort of animal protein. I’m Hispanic, and I know many Hispanics don’t eat a meal without some sort of animal protein if they can avoid it. It could be cultural, or a sign that one is successful enough to afford some sort of meat. But among the very poor meat is a treat once a week or less even outside of Lent.
 
The Latin Rite has modified abstinence rules over time. In the early Church, the practice was more like that of the Eastern Catholics and Orthodox. No meat, including fish, no eggs, cheese or oil. Fasting is much more rigorous. Since eggs, fish, (nowadays even meat broth) are permitted in the Latin Rite, it’s become almost a custom in some places to have seafood on Fridays during Lent. In fact some live according to the letter, and not the spirit of the Law, eating shrimp, lobster, and other expensive seafood. I myself enjoy fish-sticks, they are cheap, easy to cook, not as good as salmon or sword fish, which I would prefer, they remind me of my childhood when that’s what we got growing up. Not a major mortification, but it’s what I do.

I do sometimes go for meatless including fish, eggs, and dairy. But not everyone feels they have had a meal without some sort of animal protein. ** I’m Hispanic, and I know many Hispanics don’t eat a meal without some sort of animal protein if they can avoid it.** It could be cultural, or a sign that one is successful enough to afford some sort of meat. But among the very poor meat is a treat once a week or less even outside of Lent.
Even for their faith just a few times a year they can’t go without meat?
 
Even for their faith just a few times a year they can’t go without meat?
Your question is something that you will have to ask of those individuals. As well as the Bishops of Central and South America.

But the facts are…

First: It is by the authority given those bishops, not sinful to eat chicken on Fridays during Lent.

Secondly: something that should be left to their lawful pastors to teach if they move outside of the region, or in the confessional, by a priest with faculties.

I know for myself, I have enough of my own to worry about. Not being their lawful pastor, If I were to find myself confronting the issue here in the USA, I’d advise someone who was raised in a place where the laws pertaining to eating meat were different from her to address the issue with their parish priest.​

As an after thought. When it comes to doing something for the Faith. Much of Central and South America while majority Catholic have long histories of persecution of the Church after their independence from Spain. Catholics in Mexico suffered much, Churches closed and used as barns for horses, cattle and pigs, all Church property nationalized by a government hostile to the Faith. Priests and those who harbored them martyred by the government. It was not until the visit of Pope John Paul II, that priests and religious were allowed to wear their habits and religious garb in public. What many from these regions have suffered for the Faith is something that we will hopefully never have to endure. Bl. Miguel Pro, S.J. and all who suffered and died for the Faith in Mexico, Central and South America, pray for us.
 
IIRC it still Is technically illegal to wear clerical garb outside a church in Mexico, except with the particular permission of the civil authorities. Technically, Bl. John Paul II was violating the law, but of course no sane government would arrest a head of state like that.
 
IIRC it still Is technically illegal to wear clerical garb outside a church in Mexico, except with the particular permission of the civil authorities. Technically, Bl. John Paul II was violating the law, but of course no sane government would arrest a head of state like that.
You may be correct, I’ve not been to Mexico since the visit.
 
Eating fish on Friday is simply a Catholic custom.

It is supposed to be a type of fasting but I don’t see how eating fish and seafood is fasting.

I don’t pay much attention to the custom anymore but I do love fish Fridays.
 
Eating fish on Friday is simply a Catholic custom.

It is supposed to be a type of fasting but I don’t see how eating fish and seafood is fasting.

I don’t pay much attention to the custom anymore but I do love fish Fridays.
You seem to confuse a few things. Avoiding flesh meat on Fridays is abstaining, not fasting. In the US. Fish is not considered flesh meat. Fasting in the modern sense is to eat one regular sized meal and your two other meals do not add up to the one normal sized meal.

Orthodox and Eastern Catholics do not eat meat, fish, oil, eggs or dairy throughout Lent, or on Fridays (strict Orthodox Christians don’t eat meat on Wednesdays and Saturdays.

Anglicans have pancake lunches and dinners at their parishes in the UK, on shrove Tuesday (day before Ash Wednesday) to use up oil, eggs, butter and milk before Lent. Even though they may be low church or more protestantized parishes. This custom survived after the break with the Church by Henry VIII.

Eating Fish on Friday is not really a custom, simply a choice that Catholics can make, as other animal proteins are not eaten unless one has a health issue which requires it.
 
If chicken is permitted in some Latin American countries for reason of poverty I can understand that - but I wonder if the exemption applies on Ash Wednesday and Good Friday?

In Canada, we are not required to abstain at all on the Fridays of Lent. The bishops officially encourage it, but it is not required. Another penance can be substituted. So you may come across Canadians who feel fine eating not only chicken but steak on the Fridays of Lent…abstinence is only required on Ash Wednesday and Good Friday. I don’t know why the Canadian bishops decided to relax the rules to such an extent…definitely not for reason of poverty as Canada has one of the highest standards of living in the world. Drives me nuts.
 
Good point, I’ll have to see if there is something from the Bishops of Mexico on the subject that I can find.
 
Good point, I’ll have to see if there is something from the Bishops of Mexico on the subject that I can find.
Nothing about fish or chicken, but from here: zenit.org/en/articles/cardinal-of-mexico-city-gives-priests-faculties-during-lent-to-forgive-sin-of-abortion

“He also reminded that on Ash Wednesday and Good Friday in the archdiocese, fasting and abstinence must be observed, while on other Fridays of Lent only abstinence is obligatory, although the latter can be commuted by a special work of charity, of piety or another significant voluntary sacrifice. Rules for fasting and abstinence are set by canon law but can be modified to a limited extent by individual episcopal conferences. Substitutions are often proposed by episcopal conferences; this is often the case where poverty or other motives make dietary restrictions heavily burdensome.”

The article also mentions the Information Service of the Archdiocese of Mexico (SIAME), but I don’t have the chance to look that up right now.
 
If chicken is permitted in some Latin American countries for reason of poverty I can understand that - but I wonder if the exemption applies on Ash Wednesday and Good Friday?

In Canada, we are not required to abstain at all on the Fridays of Lent. The bishops officially encourage it, but it is not required.
Except, it appears, in the Archdiocese of Ottawa where Archbishop Terrence Prendergast has mandated abstinence from meat for all Fridays in Lent.
 
Eating fish on Friday is simply a Catholic custom.

It is supposed to be a type of fasting but I don’t see how eating fish and seafood is fasting.
It’s more of an obedience issue, as I see it. God didn’t ask Adam and Eve to starve themselves to death; He simply prohibited eating of one particular tree.
 
Eating fish on Friday is simply a Catholic custom.

It is supposed to be a type of fasting but I don’t see how eating fish and seafood is fasting.

I don’t pay much attention to the custom anymore but I do love fish Fridays.
Sorry for not being clear.

It is a Catholic custom. I meant to state that Catholics were the ones over the years claiming they could eat chicken on Fridays during Lent.
 
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