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Are we still following this discipline or not? Why?
http://www.ewtn.com/faith/teachings/euchb2a.htm said:370, What are the current rules for fasting before Holy Communion?
(a) For many centuries the Church commanded a strict fast from midnight before one could receive Holy Communion. However, in the 1950’s Pope Pius XII introduced a much more lenient form of fasting before Holy Communion in order to give Catholics an opportunity to receive Holy Communion more frequently.
(b) Pope Pius XII also allowed the celebration of afternoon and evening Masses every day, when the spiritual good of a considerable number of the faithful requires it. It is the right of the bishop of each diocese to decide when such Masses may be offered in his diocese.
(c) Paul VI further reduced the fasting requirement after the Second Vatican Council, requiring only a one hour fast from all food and drink (excluding water). This may be reduced to 15 minutes for those who are sick or for other important reasons. This is the practice currently in force.
Holy Communion may be received without fasting when one is in danger of death, or when it is necessary to save the Blessed Sacrament from insult or injury.
- When may Holy Communion be received without fasting?
(a) Ordinarily the danger of death comes from sickness or injury. But it is not necessary that a person be in danger of death from sickness in order to receive Holy Communion without fasting. The danger of death may come from some other cause. A soldier, for example, who is about to go into battle or a person about to be executed may receive Holy Communion without fasting.
There are many things that we were taught as children before First Communion that have never been Church teaching. Our teachers’ pious practices were taught to us as though they were doctrine. Not biting the Host was one of them and I suspect your ‘drinking water before anything else’ is another. Logically, what difference does it make if your first drink is water, juice or coffee? Particles will be washed down by any of them which is what you want to have happen.I believe we are supposed to drink water before anything else in case there are any particles left in our mouths.
The Church’s teaching is that we must abstain from food/drink for one hour before Holy Communion, excepting water and medicine. The Church makes no requirement after Communion.Are we still following this discipline or not? Why?
So was the rule that not even water was allowed in those days, then? Allowed by the Church, I mean, not by the nuns, who may have been stricter than the Church.My mother remembers the fasting strictness as a young girl. The nuns at the Catholic school she attended were very strict as the school kids attending daily Mass before school started would not be allowed anywhere near a drinking fountain
My mother and sister remember the Dominican nuns that taught them at their local Catholic school were very strict. They tolerated no misbehavior from the kids, and they remember the punishments like the hands being hit with wooden rulers as an example.So was the rule that not even water was allowed in those days, then? Allowed by the Church, I mean, not by the nuns, who may have been stricter than the Church.
Yes, it was a total fast from Midnight, including water.So was the rule that not even water was allowed in those days, then?
As above, the fast is one hour before communion (this means reception of communion, not before Mass), except water and medicine.Are we still following this discipline or not? Why?
My mother was born nearly 3 years after the end of World War 2, her old sister just a year after the war was done. Each girl had their First Communions in the spring time of their 2nd grade year when they were 8 years old so they would have taught about the fasting stuff a great deal by the nuns I am sure. My mother and aunt were teenagers when the fasting was reduced to one hour from the 3 hours it was when they were pre-teens.Yes, it was a total fast from Midnight, including water.
In 1953 Pope Pius XII allowed water and medicine to be excluded from the fast. The fast was reduced to 3 hours in 1957 and one hour in 1964.
I have posted the current code from 1983.
So, it depends upon when dear mother was in school as to whether the fast included water.
Then the nuns did not get the message or continued to teach other than what the Church required. Water was allowed starting in 1953.My mother was born nearly 3 years after the end of World War 2, her old sister just a year after the war was done. Each girl had their First Communions in the spring time of their 2nd grade year when they were 8 years old so they would have taught about the fasting stuff a great deal by the nuns I am sure. My mother and aunt were teenagers when the fasting was reduced to one hour from the 3 hours it was when they were pre-teens.
Afterwards, you’re fine. There’s no obligation to do anything.Are we still following this discipline or not? Why?
Wooden? Hah! Our’s had metal yardsticksMy mother and sister remember the Dominican nuns that taught them at their local Catholic school were very strict. They tolerated no misbehavior from the kids, and they remember the punishments like the hands being hit with wooden rulers as an example.