Eating Jesus = remembering Him?

[emeraldisle]

Does anyone really believe that Jesus taught us to eat Himself in order to remember Him in His perfect sacrifice on the cross?

And He took bread, gave thanks and broke it, and gave it to them, saying, “This is My body which is given for you; do this in remembrance of Me.” Luke 22:19

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[ConallCernach]

Does anyone really believe that Jesus taught us to eat Himself in order to remember Him in His perfect sacrifice on the cross?

And He took bread, gave thanks and broke it, and gave it to them, saying, “This is My body which is given for you; do this in remembrance of Me.” Luke 22:19

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He breaks the bread, hands it around to His friends, at supper and then tells them to do it in remembrance of Him. I don’t know about you, but I usually eat bread that’s given to me, I don’t think He wanted His apostles to play with it.

Besides He says that we are to eat His flesh and drink His blood. He elaborates to tell us “this is my body… and this is my blood which has been given up for you.”

So either really stop trying to attack us with the verse of the day and try to take His whole message regarding His body into context.

 

[theistgal]

Does anyone really believe that Jesus taught us to eat Himself in order to remember Him in His perfect sacrifice on the cross?

And He took bread, gave thanks and broke it, and gave it to them, saying, “This is My body which is given for you; do this in remembrance of Me.” Luke 22:19

Sounds like something He’d say.

 

[ConallCernach]

Sounds like something He’d say.

Yeah.

Alright guys, take this bread and break it. Do this to remember me. Peter!? What are you doing!? Give it back to me! I didn’t say eat it! You’re supposed to look at it until it goes moldy. You kids!

Some how… I think not.

 

[VociMike]

Does anyone really believe that Jesus taught us to eat Himself in order to remember Him in His perfect sacrifice on the cross?

Does anyone really believe that Jesus taught us to eat a 2 cent cracker and drink 3 cents worth of juice to remember Him? When you’re at the grocery store and you go down the cracker aisle, does it remind you of Christ and his sacrifice? When you go down the juice aisle does it remind you of Him and his sacrifice? There is nothing intrinsically connecting these food items to a memory of Christ and his sacrifice.

The simple fact is that nobody would ever offer crackers and juice as a memorial meal for somebody they loved. Never! It never happened and it never will. To offer crackers and juice as a memorial meal would be a rank insult to the memory of the person, and to the guests as well. Who serves crackers and juice at a memorial meal for their dear departed father or mother or husband or wife or son or daughter? Only a very, very angry person would do that.

Oh, and BTW, “to remember” is not an accurate rendition of what he said. Read up on the meaning of the Greek word “anamnesis”.

 

[foundthelight]

Does anyone really believe that Jesus taught us to eat Himself in order to remember Him in His perfect sacrifice on the cross?

And He took bread, gave thanks and broke it, and gave it to them, saying, “This is My body which is given for you; do this in remembrance of Me.” Luke 22:19

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I prefer a different emphasis.

This is my body…This is my blood…

Particularly in light of the following.

Joh 6:53 So Jesus said to them, “Truly, truly, I say to you, unless you eat the flesh of the Son of Man and drink his blood, you have no life in you.
Joh 6:54 Whoever feeds on my flesh and drinks my blood has eternal life, and I will raise him up on the last day.
Joh 6:55 For my flesh is true food, and my blood is true drink.
Joh 6:56 Whoever feeds on my flesh and drinks my blood abides in me, and I in him.
Joh 6:57 As the living Father sent me, and I live because of the Father, so whoever feeds on me, he also will live because of me.
Joh 6:58 This is the bread that came down from heaven, not as the fathers ate and died. Whoever feeds on this bread will live forever.”
Joh 6:59 Jesus said these things in the synagogue, as he taught at Capernaum.
Joh 6:60 When many of his disciples heard it, they said, “This is a hard saying; who can listen to it?”
Joh 6:61 But Jesus, knowing in himself that his disciples were grumbling about this, said to them, “Do you take offense at this?
Joh 6:62 Then what if you were to see the Son of Man ascending to where he was before?
Joh 6:63 It is the Spirit who gives life; the flesh is of no avail. The words that I have spoken to you are spirit and life.
Joh 6:64 But there are some of you who do not believe.” (For Jesus knew from the beginning who those were who did not believe, and who it was who would betray him.)
Joh 6:65 And he said, “This is why I told you that no one can come to me unless it is granted him by the Father.”
Joh 6:66 After this many of his disciples turned back and no longer walked with him.
Joh 6:67 So Jesus said to the Twelve, “Do you want to go away as well?”
Joh 6:68 Simon Peter answered him, "Lord, to whom shall we go? You have the words of eternal life, (ESV)

You have, I am sure, heard all the arguments before and seen the quotes from Paul on failure to discern the body when taking the bread, as well as the Didache and the writings of the early Church Fathers.

 

[RyanML]

Does anyone really believe that Jesus taught us to eat Himself in order to remember Him in His perfect sacrifice on the cross?

And He took bread, gave thanks and broke it, and gave it to them, saying, “This is My body which is given for you; do this in remembrance of Me.” Luke 22:19

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This is simply a misunderstanding of the passage. The Hebrew word for remembrance is “zikaron” which does not mean to simply call something to mind, but to actually make present and to participate. The Greek word “anamnesis” that Paul uses has a similar meaning of literally making reality present to us. In the context of the Scripture, it is Christ himself, in his body and blood, that is made present. St. Augustine said that Christ held Himself in His hands at the Last Supper.

 

[e61iuser]

Of course, because He is the Lamb of God.

Jews remember the Passover and their having to eat the lamb meat that was leftover after the blood was splashed across their doorways. Every time the Jews celebrate the Passover they project themselves back to the time the Angel of Death passed over them, rendering the moment eternal to them. Wherever they are, whenever it happens, they are there with the slaves of Egypt.

Same thing with us Christians. We do it in memory of Jesus because every single time we eat Him, we are with Him in that upper room.

Besides if God Himself says “this is my body”, who am I to argue with Him?

 

[Br.Rich_SFO]

Does anyone really believe that Jesus taught us to eat Himself in order to remember Him in His perfect sacrifice on the cross?

And He took bread, gave thanks and broke it, and gave it to them, saying, “This is My body which is given for you; do this in remembrance of Me.” Luke 22:19

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What do you think Christ meant by this?

John 6:53. The Jews therefore strove among themselves, saying: How can this man give us his flesh to eat?
6:54. Then Jesus said to them: Amen, amen, I say unto you: except you eat the flesh of the Son of man and
drink his blood, you shall not have life in you.
6:55. He that eateth my flesh and drinketh my blood hath everlasting life: and I will raise him up in the last day.
6:56. For** my flesh is meat indeed: and my blood is drink indeed**.
6:57. He that eateth my flesh and drinketh my blood abideth in me: and I in him.

 

[Todd_Easton]

26Now as they were eating, Jesus took bread, and blessed, and broke it, and gave it to the disciples and said, “Take, eat; this is my body.” (Matthew 26:26)

In a sacrificial system of worship, people participate in a sacrifice by eating or drinking of it after it is has been offered on the altar. See 1 Corinthians 10:16-21. The pascal lamb was not only sacrificed but also eaten (Exodus 12:8) and Jesus is our Pascal Lamb. (1 Corinthians 5:7)

 

[emeraldisle]

Besides if God Himself says “this is my body”, who am I to argue with Him?

accept Jesus says, “This is My body which is given for you; do this in remembrance of Me.”

Yes Jesus gave Himself as a once for all sacrifice.

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[foundthelight]

accept Jesus says, “This is My body which is given for you; do this in remembrance of Me.”

Yes Jesus gave Himself as a once for all sacrifice.

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I will ask the obvious question. What does the following mean to you?

Joh 6:53 So Jesus said to them, "Truly, truly, I say to you, unless you eat the flesh of the Son of Man and drink his blood, you have no life in you.
Joh 6:54 Whoever feeds on my flesh and drinks my blood has eternal life, and I will raise him up on the last day.
Joh 6:55 For my flesh is true food, and my blood is true drink.
Joh 6:56 Whoever feeds on my flesh and drinks my blood abides in me, and I in him.

How else can we feed on His flesh and drink His blood?

 

[emeraldisle]

What do you think Christ meant by this?

Yes Jesus meant that bread is a symbol of His body which was given as a once for all sacrifice on the cross and that we eat the bread in remembrance of His perfect sacrifice.

And He took bread, gave thanks and broke it, and gave it to them, saying, “This is My body which is given for you; do this in remembrance of Me.” Luke 22:19

Also in John 6 Jesus says;

And Jesus said to them, “I am the bread of life. He who comes to Me shall never hunger, and he who believes in Me shall never thirst. John 6:35

In your literal interpretation of all of John 6 are you suggesting that Christians never hunger or never thirst?

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[foundthelight]

Yes Jesus meant that bread is a symbol of His body which was given as a once for all sacrifice on the cross and that we eat the bread in remembrance of His perfect sacrifice.

And He took bread, gave thanks and broke it, and gave it to them, saying, “This is My body which is given for you; do this in remembrance of Me.” Luke 22:19

Also in John 6 Jesus says;

And Jesus said to them, “I am the bread of life. He who comes to Me shall never hunger, and he who believes in Me shall never thirst. John 6:35

In your literal interpretation of all of John 6 are you suggesting that Christians never hunger or never thirst?

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You got it! Nor do we try to explain away plain scripture.

 

[VociMike]

Yes Jesus meant that bread is a symbol of His body which was given as a once for all sacrifice on the cross and that we eat the bread in remembrance of His perfect sacrifice.

And He took bread, gave thanks and broke it, and gave it to them, saying, “This is My body which is given for you; do this in remembrance of Me.” Luke 22:19

Also in John 6 Jesus says;

And Jesus said to them, “I am the bread of life. He who comes to Me shall never hunger, and he who believes in Me shall never thirst. John 6:35

In your literal interpretation of all of John 6 are you suggesting that Christians never hunger or never thirst?

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You’re confusing spiritual with symbolic. That’s a very common Protestant error.

 

[VociMike]

Question: If “eating and drinking Christ” symbolizes absorbing his teachings, then why at the Last Supper did he not hold up the scriptures when he said “eat…drink…this is my body…this is my blood”?

I’ve never seen a Protestant give a sensible answer to that question.

 

[VociMike]

Yes Jesus meant that bread is a symbol of His body which was given as a once for all sacrifice on the cross and that we eat the bread in remembrance of His perfect sacrifice.

Why would Jesus want us to symbolically eat his body, the same body given on the cross? Where in the Judeo-Christian world (or anywhere) has it ever been that one remembers a loved one by pretending to eat their body?

 

[Zooey]

I believe that Jesus was not lying when He said:

John 6:53. The Jews therefore strove among themselves, saying: How can this man give us his flesh to eat?
6:54. Then Jesus said to them: Amen, amen, I say unto you: except you eat the flesh of the Son of man and
drink his blood, you shall not have life in you.
6:55. He that eateth my flesh and drinketh my blood hath everlasting life: and I will raise him up in the last day.
6:56. For** my flesh is meat indeed: and my blood is drink indeed**.
6:57. He that eateth my flesh and drinketh my blood abideth in me: and I in him.

Therefore, I believe that Holy Communion is, in fact, eating Jesus.
I take the Man at His word, laddie. I dinnae try to explain Him away.

 

[Laborer]

I think the protestants have it backwards.

The last supper does not evoke the passover. The passover is a foreshadowing of the Eucharist. The Eucharist is not only in remembrance of Jesus, but it re-presents the sacrifice He made for us all. By consuming the flesh of the paschal lamb, it becomes a part of us, and the lamb’s blood saves us from death. Christ dwells in us to the extent we are willing to receive him.

 

[Church_Militant]

EI is dead wrong and I’ve got proof from the New Testament and the writings of the ECF.
The Eucharist IS Scriptural