Eavesdropping Parents for Online Schooling?

[redcatholic]

It’s a complete disaster here with the younger grades. My sister has a kindergartner. Yesterday in his class a little girl was having trouble with her computer. The teacher asked if someone could help her. She said no. That her sister was there but couldn’t help. Her sister was the only one home. Her sister is 8.
The teachers I talked to are flustered, dealing with technical problems most of class and unable to keep older kids from cheating and attendance and rules are non existent. I was at the pool last night with my kids talking to a lady who had a grandson that she is helping out with. The parents live in another state and since they both work they sent the child to live with the grandparents. The grandparents have upped medication for the child so he sleeps at 8pm. They are exhausted and asking all sorts of stereotypical technology questions. It’s not good. We have homeschooled for 10 years. My family was against it. Now all of the sudden they think we are the smartest people in the world. I just smile and enjoy the show.

 

[TC3033]

There’s no “conspiracy,” it’s actually daringly transparent with a little bit of homeswork. I would do it for you,

Go for it… I have 2 kids in public schools, a wife (Catholic) who teaches in public HS, two sister-in-laws (Catholic) teach in public schools, and my sister (super…super Republican) works in public schools. If they were supposed to pass along some sort of left wing agenda, they would have all quit by now, especially my sister. Am I saying that there aren’t some instances where schools teach something some parents don’t like, no…, but making it sound like there some sort of conspiracy in the public school systems (as a whole) to indoctrinate children with left wing ideal and socialist values is preposterous at best.

I would wage that you would find nothing wrong with what is being set in curriculums and offered in guidlines.

Maybe, maybe not. I’m not sure why you’d wage that I’d see nothing wrong…

In any case, if your see absolutely nothing wrong with educators expressing concern that a parent might be listening in on what is being taught… what is there to say? We are on opposite planets, as usual

I never had an issue sitting in with my kids’ zoom stuff… For the most part, I didn’t sit in though, I could hear it from my desk as they went through updates for the day. Again, as was posted up thread, it sounds more like a poorly worded FERPA waiver for some kids potentially being on camera or recorded more than anything…I’d like to see the waiver though.

 

[DisorientingSneeze]

I don’t believe the schools are up to no good. They are in a lose lose situation this year.

I’m unenrolling my kids this year because I’m not prepared to manage 3 elementary age children on laptops at once. I can feel the despair floating off my teacher friends prepping for this and parents of kids in schools that already started. It occurred to me I have the privilege of trying something else. We will use Seton Catholic Homeschool. Hopefully next year is safe and my kids will return to our public school that is wonderful and not sneaky.

 

[RuggedCatholic]

Well considering the intense and absurdly immoral indoctrination that is occurring in public schools (and some Catholic) across the country I’m not surprised at all.

Teachers have already come out screeching and crying about potential “conservative parents listening in”.

It shows to me these teachers are 100% indoctrinating our children (white hate, how awful and racist America is, trans ideology etc).

 

[DisorientingSneeze]

I taught in public schools for 9 years…high school and elementary school. The only indoctrination we were even remotely guilty of in my region was that our state testing matters. It shouldn’t and it is not a good measure of the students or schools. That’s really the only falsehood we ever peddled.

I’m willing to acknowledge that my own personal experience does not reflect what is going on in every part of the country, but so should you. (You is anyone making great ranty generalizations about schools and teachers)

 

[TC3033]

Well considering the intense and absurdly immoral indoctrination that is occurring in public schools (and some Catholic) across the country I’m not surprised at all.

Sorry, have to disagree here.

Teachers have already come out screeching and crying about potential “conservative parents listening in”.

Link?

It shows to me these teachers are 100% indoctrinating our children (white hate, how awful and racist America is, trans ideology etc).

If this were true, all of the teachers/paras in my family would have quit their jobs by now…Especially my highly evangelical highly Republican sister. Again, I’d love to see this waiver as again it sounds like a poorly worded FERPA waiver.

Can you link me to the curricula that was used?

I taught in public schools for 9 years…high school and elementary school. The only indoctrination we were even remotely guilty of in my region was that our state testing matters. It shouldn’t and it is not a good measure of the students or schools. That’s really the only falsehood we ever peddled.

I’m willing to acknowledge that my own personal experience does not reflect what is going on in every part of the country, but so should you. (You is anyone making great ranty generalizations about schools and teachers)

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[TC3033]

Wouldn’t the text books support the curriculum and vice/versa?

 

[TC3033]

So they taught to the curriculum then?

So the district/school board is making it up as they go along?

Must be a tough/weird school district.

 

[TC3033]

How you know when teachers are teaching to the curriculum and when they’re not.

Your accusations are fire able.

 

[ThomasMT]

Your applause video is pretty ironic considering that you yourself are rendering generalizations based on your own limited experiences.

 

[TC3033]

Interesting, everyone I know hasn’t and I have 4 educators in my family that wouldn’t do that…? I guess our n=1 cancel out. :man_shrugging:t2:

 

[TC3033]

Your applause video is pretty ironic considering that you yourself are rendering generalizations based on your own limited experiences.

No, what I’m saying is, and already said once upthread (and what I was agreeing with @DisorientingSneeze on) : I’m not saying that there aren’t some instances where schools teach something some parents don’t like (that’s a two way street BTW), but making it sound like there is some sort of conspiracy in the public school system (as a whole) to indoctrinate children with left wing ideals and socialist values is preposterous at best…

That would be a broad stroke of a generalization.

 

[TC3033]

I’m sure they would. Like I said, I know teachers that would quit.

Never said it necessarily doesn’t. I’m saying there isn’t some sort of “indoctrination conspiracy” by the entire education system.

License…like drivers license or some sort of PSE?

 

[TC3033]

So, you’re going to be a teacher?

Edit: If so, when you say “You’ve known teachers from my classes that do it”, are you talking about college teachers/profs?

 

[TC3033]

Ok, sounds good. Are you going to be able to support the indoctrination?

I honestly wonder if this isn’t a geographical thing (as it sure isn’t a system thing).

 

[TC3033]

Which, we can agree on.

I return to my point that it isn’t systematical indoctrination.

 

[TC3033]

Which system is it that is dedicated to indoctrinating kids with left wing ideals and socialist values?

 

[TC3033]

The educational system is managed at the district level…

The school board? Lol, their teachers. I know teachers that are as far right wing as the President.

Again, the school board?

Are you saying that the democratic party has control of the school board of every Independent School District in the country??

 

[heidi_storage]

What a silly debate. There have been plenty of instances of teachers teaching leftist concepts–the teacher in California who sprang the “gender transition” reveal on her class, the teacher in Philadelphia complaining that parents might listen in while he’s trying to “destabilize” their “racism” and “homophobia,” the “genderbread person” paradigm, etc.

School systems are not, however, monolithic.
Some states mandate more leftist ideology than others in the curriculum.
Some districts teach more objectionable material about sexuality than others.
Some teachers are leftists. Some are not.

It is always and everywhere the parents’ responsibility to ensure that their children are not being taught immoral material. Doing this may be accomplished in many different ways–investigating the curriculum, keeping an eye on daily progress, and keeping open respectful lines of communication with the teachers. Contradictions between what is taught at home and at school should be discussed in an age-appropriate manner. Wherever possible, I think it desirable for parents and teachers to approach each other as allies with the best interests of the child in mind, rather than as adversaries.

Parents may, after such investigation, decide that their local schools are not a healthy environment for their children. This is completely legitimate. A blanket dismissal of schools as secular humanist indoctrination factories, however, is not an intelligent manner to approach this task. It is setting up a strawman and discrediting the very real, very valid concerns with public education, and it is unfairly villainizing the many, many teachers who are faithful Christians or who are not faithful Christians but who are doing their best to teach key knowledge and skills to their students in an apolitical manner.

 

[DisorientingSneeze]

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How are you so suspicious of the profession you are joining? Is it you against the world or do you imagine you can find some suitable mentors from within the profession. It is very much a career where we all learn from and help eachother.